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Topic: Best thumbtip?
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Jan 29, 2008 09:36AM)
I looked through the forums and didn't see anyone mentioning what they thought was the best thumbtip.

I see many cheap plastic ones, some vinyl ones, ones by Vernet etc..

Could someone kindly explain the pros and cons of the various types - plastic vs. vinyl and what some of the better-made more realistic ones are?
Message: Posted by: SoCalPro (Jan 29, 2008 12:45PM)
The best TT is one that fits you the best and has as close to the same color tone as possible.
Message: Posted by: football2136 (Jan 29, 2008 12:48PM)
I prefer plastic because it slides on and off easier in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Jan 29, 2008 12:55PM)
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=82175&forum=41



Mike
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jan 29, 2008 01:12PM)
I switch between a long plastic one and a regular vinyl one. they're both good.
get one of each. the larger the unit, the less tense your hands get when you use one. that is something to consider. you do not want the audience to perceive any tension. you should be able to vanish a silk without "pushing hard". a larger space makes that easier. for the same reason, a production is also easier.
Message: Posted by: daver (Jan 30, 2008 06:40AM)
Personally, I prefer the ones that are made with Rocco's D'Lites.

Spoke with him about it and getting some plain TT's, but unfortunately, have not heard back.

These TTs are really nice. At least for me, they fit well, and are rigid AND supple enough to be very versatile....

Perhaps if we send him some e-mails he'd consider selling them separately... ;-)
Message: Posted by: Douglas.M (Jan 30, 2008 10:45PM)
If you want something that looks like a thumb...

Fredi Up Hyper-realistic silicone thumb tips:

http://www.magic-frediup.com/index.php?langue=en

http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=8174

Would an ordinary hard plastic or vinyl tip work just as well, mechanically speaking? Yes. But dang these tips are scary real-looking. Why not have a really well-made prop? I know that spectators shouldn't see the tip anyway, but I think these tips offer the possibility of more open (and natural) handling.
Message: Posted by: KurtK (Mar 18, 2008 12:18PM)
I only have one, a Vernet and I find it to be too large around my thumb but with proper handling no one ever notices.
Message: Posted by: mysto59 (Mar 18, 2008 05:32PM)
I bought a few of the more expensive TT's but the one I use on a daily basis is my 3$ Vernet.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Mar 23, 2008 04:04PM)
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On 2008-01-30 07:40, daver wrote:
Personally, I prefer the ones that are made with Rocco's D'Lites.

Spoke with him about it and getting some plain TT's, but unfortunately, have not heard back.

These TTs are really nice. At least for me, they fit well, and are rigid AND supple enough to be very versatile....

Perhaps if we send him some e-mails he'd consider selling them separately... ;-)
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Keep on him, man and please keep me informed by PM if you make any progress! I also think they are absolutely fabulous.
Message: Posted by: KurtK (Mar 23, 2008 04:28PM)
Which is more heat resistant cigarette-wise? plastic vernet or vinyl?
Message: Posted by: TWOCAN (Mar 26, 2008 09:11PM)
Put some tin foil in the tip and this will protect it from being burnt with cigarette vanish.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Mar 28, 2008 08:39PM)
Do they even MAKE the metal tt's anymore??
Message: Posted by: Ian Davis12 (May 7, 2008 07:44PM)
I use a cheap vernet and I always have it with me.
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (May 14, 2008 02:22AM)
Classic Vernet or King Sized Vernet - depending on what you're doing.

EDIT: Was that really my 500th post? Wow, I really need to get a social life.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (May 16, 2008 06:26PM)
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On 2008-03-28 21:39, daffydoug wrote:
Do they even MAKE the metal tt's anymore??
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http://www.magicgoods.com/TTCopper.htm



Mike
Message: Posted by: whitjm5 (Jun 13, 2008 10:20PM)
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On 2008-03-23 17:28, KurtK wrote:
Which is more heat resistant cigarette-wise? plastic vernet or vinyl?
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My vernet instructions show a cigarette vanish. I can't compare against vinyl - but it seems to be pretty heat resistant based on the instructions.
Message: Posted by: GlenD (Jun 26, 2008 03:20AM)
Different materials work better for different effects. I like a harder plastic type for bill switches. I find that the bill slides in and out way easier with a softer material. But the softer material will work a lot better if you need to seal against vanished substances. That's been my experence anyways.
Message: Posted by: CAROLINI (Jun 28, 2008 07:14PM)
As mentioned elsewhere, if you are into PW you cannot beat the Zip pen which is sold at most office supply stores.
Message: Posted by: rbattle (Aug 9, 2008 11:49AM)
I have both vinyl and plastic. In fact I have multiple ones of each. I use different ones for different tricks. I keep a couple in my briefcase and in zip locks with specific tricks. They are cheap for the most part and about the most versitile prop you can own. I also own a metal tip my great uncle used to burn and restore hankerchiefs when I was young.

Robet
Message: Posted by: Chanku (Aug 14, 2008 03:10PM)
I just got my vernet thumb tip. Quite happy with it.
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Aug 19, 2008 01:19PM)
I have a plastic one and a soft rubbery type one. The rubbery one is good for producing a small silk - you can get your fingers down into into it. I use the plastic one for everything else. The most important thing is FIT, I looked forever to get ones that fit perfect.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Airave (Aug 23, 2008 02:16PM)
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On 2008-05-14 03:22, Dustin Baker wrote:
Classic Vernet or King Sized Vernet - depending on what you're doing.
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And the true size of your appendage, hehe!

I Always keep a couple on hand ! ;D
Best there is for the $- Slip 'em on like socks,
they really do rock!
Message: Posted by: Airave (Aug 23, 2008 02:40PM)
Have tried other cheaper brands, but no liked
and haven't tried really expensive ones, but why
when the above always work so well? :D

Sorry about double post...
Message: Posted by: OTTOEMEZZO (Aug 24, 2008 05:51PM)
I prefer the Vernet, very comfortable.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Aug 24, 2008 11:53PM)
The soft vernet thumb tips are really really nice.
not as hard as the plastic but not as squishy as the vinyl ones.
I really like those.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Aug 25, 2008 05:34PM)
I have one I've used forever. I cant remember the maker but its translucent plastic and picks up my skin tone.
Message: Posted by: jocdoc (Sep 1, 2008 01:35AM)
An additional tip (pardon the pun) that I picked up from Jeff Marcus out here in San Diego: I now use a tack (push pin) to poke a small hole in the tip of my TT's. This allows for easier removal as it eliminates/reduces vacuum suction effect while removing my thumb.
Message: Posted by: MrAlex (Sep 2, 2008 05:29PM)
The Fredi Up Hyper-realistic looked as close to reality to my eye. The finger nail had the detail in it to really sell the prop. I also looked on the site and saw that you can get them in a large number of skitones which would insure a better match. Now I know what I'm saving my money for :)
Message: Posted by: Donal Chayce (Sep 3, 2008 09:22AM)
Before you plunk down your hard-earned money, you might want to check out any one of the various threads on that particular TT that are already on the forum.

I purchased one about a year ago and immediately sold it. It was just too soft for my tastes and, truth be told, the large edge made it more visible than any one of the cheaper tips.
Message: Posted by: gerryc (Oct 13, 2008 08:39AM)
It really depends on the effect desired. Stiffer ones work better for me for the bill change, the flexible ones seem better for some vanishes/reproductions. Most are so cheap you cna experiment a bit. Dealer rooms are usually pretty good places to compare them to each other
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Oct 15, 2008 06:02PM)
It's too bad that tips aren't sized in millimeters according to the interior circumference. If that were the case, we could measure with a cloth measuring tape and come up with a number. It would make online shopping for a tip much easier.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Oct 19, 2008 12:12AM)
I agree Alan. Finding the right tip is trial and error, usually left to the dealer room at conventions. For me, many more don't fit than do.
Message: Posted by: savannamagic (Oct 23, 2008 10:58PM)
I was digging through some of my old "stuff" and I came across a metal thumb tip. It has to be thirty or so years old. I think it is still in the box. I think I will resurect the use of a metal tip. I think since I don't do any lit cigarette vanishes anymore (quit smoking) I put the TTaway and went to plastic and vinyl TTs.
Message: Posted by: NickDiffatte (Feb 10, 2010 09:47PM)
Yeah Ive got an old old old p and l goblin tip. I wish they still made metal ones but ive have many vinyl ones that I use all the time
Message: Posted by: Rectify (Jun 21, 2011 11:03PM)
For Bill switches I stick to the Vernet Classic thumb tip. Its perfect because the bills slide in and out easily. For Impromptu or coin effects ill go with a vinyl thumb tip, I found some on amazon not too long ago for about a dollar each. It depends on the effects you're going to be performing in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: Dr_J_Ayala (Jun 22, 2011 07:54AM)
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On 2008-10-19 01:12, Sammy J. wrote:
I agree Alan. Finding the right tip is trial and error, usually left to the dealer room at conventions. For me, many more don't fit than do.
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I have found this to be a problem for me as well. Some time ago, I had a dealer friend give me a Thumbs Up thumb tip and it looks great - it just needs to be a fair bit stiffer. I have used the Vernet vinyl tips for a long time because that was all I could find that fits me best.
Message: Posted by: magic.mind (Aug 26, 2011 01:47PM)
Vernet Classic thumb tip for me is the best.
Message: Posted by: bowers (Sep 6, 2011 01:45PM)
Vernet is the best ive tried them all
goblin has new metal tt there are at hocus pocus
I havent tried it yet its painted flesh color.
Message: Posted by: mpicard (Sep 7, 2011 10:45PM)
I use TT's a lot and have used vernet, no name cheap and high priced soft realistic. I always end up using the vernet, ususally king size as I can use 2 12" silks in it for a great routine. but my boggest issueis with the vinyal ones is they get dis coloured in my pocket and don't come clean.