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Topic: Matrix with nails
Message: Posted by: gillesA4 (Feb 20, 2008 04:21AM)
I have heard recently about a magician who perform a matrix routine with nails hammered in a wood board; does anybody knows who's this guy, and if the routine can be seen somewhere?
Thanks!
Gilles
Message: Posted by: Kevin Fox (Feb 20, 2008 05:14AM)
Micheal Webber. I think its on one of international magic DVDs of his lecture.
Best kevin
Message: Posted by: Danny Borneo (Feb 20, 2008 08:16AM)
Does anyone have a link to the performance of it? I'm very interested in this, never even heard of it and it's got the brain wheels turning.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 20, 2008 10:59AM)
Weber's routine i9s a killer. No clue. A French magician, who's name escapes me this morning (he was a confidant of Fred Kaps) used to do a matrix type routine with poker chips and finished NAILING one down to the table and it moved across to another spot. Was clever and very funny.
Message: Posted by: harris (Feb 20, 2008 11:15AM)
He may also be the one that floored us with laughter at an early 80's Desert Seminar with rocks over the head as well as a hands and cards off matrix. "Fillipe" many have been part of his name??


Harris
Message: Posted by: Larry Barnowsky (Feb 20, 2008 11:19AM)
You should see his closer that he does with finishing nails :)
Message: Posted by: Thomas Wayne (Feb 20, 2008 06:08PM)
The Weber trick is legendary, and the work remains unpublished - though it is known by a few.

TW
Message: Posted by: Michael Rubinstein (Feb 20, 2008 10:12PM)
Pete, you might be thinking of Gaeton Bloom. I know he did a Matrix with buttons sewn onto a hankerchief. Despite being sewn to the cloth, they accumulated in one corner. It was a great trick.
Message: Posted by: gillesA4 (Feb 21, 2008 02:08AM)
Thanks everybody!
I'll make a search for GaŽtan Bloom as well!
Nice day all!
Message: Posted by: rannie (Feb 21, 2008 02:56AM)
Mike,

I do remember a Gaetan Bloom routine that utilizes buttons. If my memory serves me right, I think it was a coins thru table plot. I'll check!
Message: Posted by: Dam (Feb 21, 2008 03:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-21 03:56, rannie wrote:
Mike,

I do remember a Gaetan Bloom routine that utilizes buttons. If my memory serves me right, I think it was a coins thru table plot. I'll check!
[/quote]

You memory serve you rigth ;)
GaŽtan did a buttons thru tabble. A very good trick, with a very ingenious method.
You can find it in a french video call "Fils indirects".
I don't konw if it is on other videos.
Message: Posted by: RS1963 (Feb 21, 2008 02:20PM)
Pete the one your thinking of is Phillip Fiahlo. Very funny act! His pebbles act had me laughing so hard My sides ached from laughing so much. It was an act that you just had to see to really understand how funny he was. I only met him once and was very helpfull with some questions I had. He even helped me on a couple of card routines I was working on at that time. He and Bob Reed were the main attractions at the W.M.S. when Fred Kaps was unable to attened in 1980.

Randy
Message: Posted by: mfeld (Feb 21, 2008 03:18PM)
Does anyone know if there is video available of Webber's nail matrix.... or really any other of his performance or material?
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Feb 21, 2008 03:55PM)
Michael Weber did a video a long time ago with some of his older works ... a Greater Magic Video Library item (*volume 22?)
Message: Posted by: gillesA4 (Feb 22, 2008 12:14AM)
Mfeld,
To my knowledge only one video, performance only:
http://www.internationalmagic.com/
11th competition dvd.
Hope this helps,
Gilles
Message: Posted by: Richard Tremblay (Feb 22, 2008 08:26AM)
If I remember well, Joe Givens also have a matrix with buttons where they are all sewn on the handkerchief for the final.

Richard
Message: Posted by: newguy (Feb 22, 2008 11:41PM)
Matrix with nails can be seen here:

http://tinyurl.com/3yhv2h

I've seen him do it at least twice. He uses the wood with three nails as a table for other tricks and then lets the spectators keep the board with the nails it in at the end!


He has shared the "how" with no one. So anything else is speculation.

Sorry Thomas...
Message: Posted by: joseph (Feb 23, 2008 06:19AM)
Thanks for the link....That was good....
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Feb 23, 2008 08:44AM)
Just maybe Thomas does know......
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Feb 23, 2008 09:32AM)
As a better poet put it:

"Those who know
They don't let it show
They just give you one long glance
And you'll go oh, oh, oh, oh.


Goes to show
How winds blow
The weather's fine
And I feel so, so, so, so, so.


Birds of Prey
With too much to say
Oh what could be my destiny
Another rainy day.


Why ask why
For by the by and by,
All mysteries are just more
Needles in the camel's eye."

I hope Michael Weber does choose to openly publish his material - it would serve as a good example for this generation of what can be done.
Message: Posted by: kent1985 (Feb 23, 2008 01:02PM)
Hmm this is interesting..
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Feb 23, 2008 02:12PM)
Michael Weber is a genius, and although this effect is very different, it's not that magical in my opinion. I guess I'm not seeing what others see in it. Let the flaming begin.
Message: Posted by: Thomas Wayne (Feb 23, 2008 02:56PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-23 00:41, newguy wrote:
Matrix with nails can be seen here:

http://tinyurl.com/3yhv2h

I've seen him do it at least twice. He uses the wood with three nails as a table for other tricks and then lets the spectators keep the board with the nails it in at the end!


He has shared the "how" with no one. So anything else is speculation.

Sorry Thomas...
[/quote]

No need to be sorry, "newguy"... you are, however, mistaken about the not shared part. "Not shared" with [i]you[/i] is more like it.

But it is true that no one [who [i]knows[/i] how it's done] is going to reveal the method(s) publicly.

TW
Message: Posted by: Eric Jones (Feb 26, 2008 06:11AM)
On a related note. I recall seeing a pretty sexy barehanded assembly using thumb tacs......though I can't recall the source. Sounds like something Sean Fields would do.....
Message: Posted by: gillesA4 (Feb 27, 2008 11:48PM)
Hy Eric!
My belgian english doesn't go that far, may I ask you what you- and probably everybody else- call thumb "tacs"?
Thanks!
Be well!
Gilles
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Feb 28, 2008 02:16AM)
Gilles, you know, the thing you use to stick a card to the ceiling when wax, putty, and/or tape won't work.

aka Thumb "Tacks".
Message: Posted by: gillesA4 (Feb 28, 2008 08:35AM)
Thanks Curtis!
We just have another name for that here in Brussels...
Message: Posted by: gillesA4 (Mar 15, 2008 06:37AM)
Ok, now that the nail matrix is set up and working, does one of you knows if I can actually see somewhere the one with buttons sewn onto an hankerchief?? This is titillating as well, isn't'it
Message: Posted by: Kex (Mar 15, 2008 12:40PM)
NewGuy,

Thanks for the link to the video. Again I am amazed by the simplicity of Michael's effects. I heard about this years ago and also wondered how clean it looked. Consider me fooled!

Kex
Message: Posted by: newguy (Mar 17, 2008 11:40PM)
Kex,

You are welcome, I didn't set it up, just saw the link on a Japanese website I visit all the time. Lots of great performers on that same show, including Sawa!
Message: Posted by: MagicofDesperado (Mar 10, 2015 02:55PM)
This may be the one trick that still has me fooled and I absolutely love it.

Mr. Weber IS a definite genius.

Dartagnan
Message: Posted by: Richie Larson (Mar 11, 2015 11:47AM)
There is also a clip of the nail matrix, and more about Michael Weber in the Ricky Jay documentary Deceptive Practices. It's up on NetFlix. At least for now..

I enjoyed the documentary. Definately worth watching..

-Richie TwoTime
Message: Posted by: Flyswatter (Mar 11, 2015 10:47PM)
[quote]On Mar 11, 2015, Richie Larson wrote:
There is also a clip of the nail matrix, and more about Michael Weber in the Ricky Jay documentary Deceptive Practices. It's up on NetFlix. At least for now..

I enjoyed the documentary. Definately worth watching..

-Richie TwoTime [/quote]

No wonder this sounded so familiar, I saw it on the documentary.
Message: Posted by: R2D2 (Mar 15, 2015 08:22PM)
Is this on youtube somewhere?
Message: Posted by: eatonmagic (Mar 16, 2015 09:47PM)
My friend up north had some of the old FISM tapes a while back. I believe Michael did it in '94 in Japan.
Message: Posted by: Jacques (Apr 12, 2015 12:04AM)
Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRPOpirIMUo

The nails matrix starts at 37:06