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Topic: Any ideas on pirate related magic?
Message: Posted by: Habu (Feb 26, 2008 10:29AM)

I'm in final negotiations to be the in-house magician for family night and birthday parties for an arcade/party business.

The area I will be performing is a room about 50 feet x 50 feet square with a 12 foot by 12 foot platform stage to work on.

The name of the place is Lil' Pirates and caters to family events and birthday parties. I have worked up an opening to my act which uses a torn and restored paper using a pirates treasure map I made which featuring the name of the business on it, that leads to a chest I open containing a Book of Treasures (usually for libraries) from which I pour out a cup full of gold coins. From there I will do some rope magic (seems fitting) and on to other effects.

I ran out of ideas there, and cannot seem to find any other pirate related items with which to finish out my show.

Any ideas on a good closing prop to tie it all together?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Feb 26, 2008 10:43AM)
I posted some where about pirate magic. When I did a pirate charactor back before pirates were cool (I always miss the boat), and I think this is true with any charactor, I try to incorporate the material into the clothing etc.. For example a pirate has a chest so I worked out of a lil' wood chest I got at a place that sales items to make gift baskets. Coin magic done with pirate gold looking coins. Bandanas replaced silks and were on me for some routines or you can pull silks from your treasure chest (silk hankies taken from a ships captain), same with rope wrapped around me. Sponge balls represent pearls in patter (get white balls and when you say then you mention pearls you found that were about...this big!). 21st Century Silks where you surprised other ships when you suddenly appeared and the Jolly Roger (note to haters, that is the pirate flag and not an attempt to bring about anyone by that name so stop weeping) appears between two flags or whatever. I'd even consider the production of the jolly roger as a closure, perhaps make a blendo.

I suggest you get your normal material out and just think about how you can frame it with the theme in mind and you'll be surprised how easy it will be.
Message: Posted by: Habu (Feb 26, 2008 11:19AM)
Thanks for the reply MagicSanta,

My shows will not all be based on pirates, and I am not planning to dress as a pirate either, unless the owner of the business makes this a condition--but that has not been discussed. But this is a good idea for later if the relationship between me and the business works out.

I wanted my first show to be done so that I am showing appreciation to the owner (who is, by the way, a very nice person), which is why I am including the pirate opening for the first family night show.

Your idea of doing some silk routines works well as does the pearl sponge routine-that sounds great! Maybe a multiplying pearls routine!!! It occurs to me that I have a David Ginn spikes through arm illusion that would make an excellent pirate torture illusion which should play big enough to be a finale.

Thanks again for the comments MagicSanta, you always have great advice.
Message: Posted by: Regan (Feb 26, 2008 12:47PM)
There are several "pirate" magicians here at The Magic Café. SeaDawg, Captain Kid, and Potty The Pirate come to mind. I'm sure there are others here as well that are doing or have done pirate-themed shows. Maybe some of these will see this and post some helpful ideas.

Message: Posted by: kimmo (Feb 26, 2008 01:34PM)
I always thought the Wolf Wacky Water Wheel looks very 'piratey'

Supreme used to put out a great routine called 'pieces of eight'. Basically it was just magic washing with a pirate sword and large, octaganal gold 'coins' with holes through the middle. It's in 'Edwin's Magic' - it would be very easy to make up.
Message: Posted by: ERIC (Feb 26, 2008 01:47PM)
Here are a few

Multiplying rum bottles
tip over treasure chest
card sword (Here is one time it would actually fit)
wrist tie / escape

Like Santa said, pull out what you already have and just start thinking......Make old things new again.....
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Feb 26, 2008 03:25PM)
A great closer is mis-made flag, but with a pirate theme. Just get some plain black cloths and paint comical pictures on them with white fabric paint. Make up a couple of silly mis-made fakes, and one with a "real" Jolly Roger. Then use a change bag (pirate loot sack), pirate hat, or other device, to switch in the various flags with an assistant from the audience to work a few comedy wands, etc.
If you can get a telescopic appearing flagpole you can finally produce a HUGE flag from somewhere. This always gets a great reaction, and is the perfect closing trick.
Potty :)
Message: Posted by: RJE (Feb 26, 2008 03:51PM)
Torn and restored treasure map or Miser's Dream with pieces of eight and a story about plunder. Aaarg!
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Feb 26, 2008 10:36PM)
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Feb 27, 2008 01:11AM)
I was thinking mismade flag myself. I was pondering it today and if you can get an airbrush guy to help make it you could have something very cool.
Message: Posted by: Habu (Feb 27, 2008 07:40AM)
Thanks for the link mrbilldentertainer, some good ideas there, and from others here, Thanks.

I do like the idea of a pirate initiation on one of the posts, that is a good "reason" for a trick like the spikes through the arm that I already have.

All of your comments, and those from the link, have given me a better perspective and directions to think in.
Message: Posted by: Eric Leclerc (Feb 28, 2008 03:48PM)
Really, any trick can be pirate themed. Its all about what you say to introduce the prop (if its not already obviously a pirate prop)

A coin can be a treasure. ``Ok guys what do pirates love!?`` take a couple answers. If they don't hit it: ``its nice and shiny and usually comes in a treasure chest....that`s right!! Gold coins``

Sponge balls can become your Parrot`s eggs... just mention it once... and maybe you can pluck them off your shoulder as if Polly was sitting right there.. Invisible Polly the Parrot routine!

Don`t feel as though ALL the tricks have to be pirate themed. Its a magic show after all. Just use the word ``pirate`` a lot and make your magic words pirate like.

D lites could be plucked from under an eye patch. (If you are not dressed as a pirate you can take out the eye patch for the trick.) (maybe on a kid?)

Rope through body can be ``the rope that is on the sides of the ship, so people don't fall off the boat!...This trick only works with this rope...the old rope of a secret pirate ship that ...................``

If its not an easy to relate prop, use pirate gestures and a couple of ``R R matey`` and funny gestures for your magic words. That makes the trick relevant to your theme.

Its all in the patter... I say keep you REAL pirate tricks for the first and last tricks. that's what they will remember.

Good luck! Sounds like a fun gig
Message: Posted by: derrick (Feb 28, 2008 04:22PM)
I had a pirate themed party to perform at a year or so ago. Don't forget to throw in a bunch of pirate jokes. They will add a lot to making your show feel piratee (not a word but you know what I mean). There are more pirate jokes than you can count but just throw in lines like.

Know how I got here today? In may caaarrrrrrrr.

Boy when I finish this show I think I'll need some R and Aaaaaarrrrrrr.

I just went to the movies but you couldn't see it because it was rated AAARRRRRRrrrrr.

I gotta go get a coke. Think I'll head over to the baaaaarrrrrr.

They are silly but it's fun and all the AAaaarrrr jokes become a running gag that the spectators eventually start joining in on.
Message: Posted by: Eric Leclerc (Feb 28, 2008 06:54PM)
Lol hilarious!!

``Boy when I finish this show I think I'll need some R and Aaaaaarrrrrrr``

that's the perfect line to direct to the little hyper kid who dosent stop shouting things... it will be funny for the parents especially
Message: Posted by: magicgeorge (Feb 29, 2008 07:17AM)
On 2008-02-26 14:34, kimmo wrote:
I always thought the Wolf Wacky Water Wheel looks very 'piratey'
More so now after Jack Sparrow was running around on top of one.

There's a nice telescope gag/trick in Trevor Lewis' party pieces.

Message: Posted by: Lyndel (Feb 29, 2008 07:50AM)
The Doty Scope idea (used with permission) but built into a telescope would be cool. http://www.kenscottproducts.com/DotyScope.html

How about a dancing parrot feather?

A shovel to dig up the treasure with?

Airborne glass as rum is poured from a rum bottle...

And to add a groaner like the ones above: "Most pirates travel by ship. But I travel by Caaaaarrrrrrr!"

Message: Posted by: KC Cameron (Mar 2, 2008 11:45AM)
My most popular character is "Captain Kid", and after a lot of experimenting I discovered the most important thing about a "pirate" magician are costume and personality. I would be careful NOT to force a pirate character on everything, but use it like seasoning - a little can go a long way. Remember, the pirate that kids know is different than the pirate of old adult movies. Talk like a pirate and many won't understand. Dress too pirate like and you will scare the lil' ones. I quickly learned not to use an eye patch or hook (which I developed routines) because it scared the youngest and most timid. While these kids may love it on TV, in real life is a different story.

That being said, you must discover the age range of your audence to determine what to do. My misers dream is always popular, and I use 50 cent pieces and call them "coins" not doubloons. My Axtell board is highly requested by repeat business, and I present it as an activity I do on long sailing trips. I use a heavy chain as a barrier for the kids not to cross, and also use it in a chain escape. I do a linking ring routine from "plundered treasure". Each of these is about 7-8 minute routines. I do other smaller routines that have no direct relation to pirates as well.

In all these "pirate routines", I just mention briefly how they are "piratey". The real pirate portion of the show comes from my personality and dress. Be careful not to fall into the mistake many Gospel magicians fall into. Some try to force a message into every trick. When the message comes from you, and the trick is a fun vehicle to bring the kids to you, it seems to work best.

Of course, having a parrot helps too.

That being said, it is Sunday, and I have a couple pirate parties to do. Interestingly enough, one for a 9 y/o girl and another for a 4 y/o girl.
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Mar 2, 2008 03:42PM)
On 2008-02-28 17:22, derrick wrote:
I had a pirate themed party to perform at a year or so ago. Don't forget to throw in a bunch of pirate jokes. They will add a lot to making your show feel piratee (not a word but you know what I mean). There are more pirate jokes than you can count but just throw in lines like.

They are silly but it's fun and all the AAaaarrrr jokes become a running gag that the spectators eventually start joining in on.

Lets not forget....

" How much did the pirate pay for his ear rings?"

A buckaneer!



Day 2
Message: Posted by: magicgeorge (Mar 2, 2008 04:20PM)
Nice one. I'd forgotten about that one.

"What's orange and sounds like a parrot?" is kind of pirate related. I love that joke. When I tell it at a party there's usually one child who will explain it then the rest will laugh.

You've also go: two parrots on a perch one turns to the other and says "can you smell fish?"
Message: Posted by: derrick (Mar 2, 2008 05:10PM)
OK, what's orange and sounds like a parrot? I guess I need a child to explain this one to me. I'm missing the punch line somewhere.
Message: Posted by: magicgeorge (Mar 2, 2008 05:31PM)
A carrot
Message: Posted by: Tony James (Mar 2, 2008 07:08PM)
Wasn't the Supreme item Called Pretty Polly?

Larger than Jumbo cards on a quick, hand held three card monte and the Parrot appears from behind the third card. Big thing too. Go on your shoulder.

or you could vanish it.

Do you juggle? You can get several minutes out of juggling Cannonballs. One is genuinely heavy to drop on the stage as a proofer. One is a hard but light shell and hits you on the head and almost knocks you out. The third is foam to drop on the head on an adult audience member.

Old as the hills but always goes well.
Message: Posted by: magicgeorge (Mar 2, 2008 07:31PM)
I've seen a slightly different version of the cannonball gag. 2 genuine and one soft one. The genuine pair are banged together when the other one hits your head. Looks great if timed well.

Message: Posted by: Habu (Mar 3, 2008 08:37PM)
I do juggle a bit, I can only manage 3 objects, but with my luck I'd catch the real cannon ball with my head or foot, and drop the foam one on the floor!

There's a lot of good ideas here, and the jokes aarrrrr pretty good too! I will be adding some of your ideas to what I already have.

I performed some of my pirate routine as well as some coin work for the owner and his family, They were very pleased when I began my show with a little song:

Sung to the tune of "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands"

"If you're ready for some magic clap your hands . . . "
"If you're ready for some magic clap your hands . . . "
"If you're ready for some magic -- Then we're really gonna have it"
"If you're ready for some magic clap your hands . . . "

That is followed by yodeling the tune, Next I sang the same verse very quickly followed by an expression like I can't do it that fast, and a very quick yodel of the tune. Sounds Cheezy probably, but it went over very well.

As a side note, I did make arrangements to be the in-house magician with one family magic night per week (I'll make $3 per child with an estimated 50 to 200 children on family nights), birthday parties and elementary school shows at the business as well as school assembly shows for next year. I am being added to the fliers and other advertising now. The in house birthday parties die out a little during summer, so we are making plans on how to advertise now for in-home shows for the summer.

It is all on a 2-way trial basis so either one of us can cancel the agreement if it isn't working out financially--but I am pretty excited about the arrangement so far. It feels good, if you know what I mean.
Message: Posted by: Doug Higley (Mar 4, 2008 02:16PM)
Well..if you have 9 or 10 year olds my Pirate Toes dark Museum works well. Johnny Depp had some around his neck in POTC2. I didn't make those but they were on my site long before they made theirs. Oh well.
It's a prediction effect. see at http://lionpointstudio.com
Message: Posted by: magicmarkdaniel (Mar 4, 2008 09:27PM)
Another pirate joke...

Why did Captain Hook wear a patch?

Because a bird pooed in his eye. (Think about it!)

I can't remember who I saw telling this joke but it was a kids magician about 7 years ago and the adults loved it. The kids just laughed becuase he said "poo"!

Message: Posted by: Mumblemore (Mar 8, 2008 06:12PM)
Don't' forget the Torn and Restored Treasure Map and Tim Sonnefelt has a pirate silk effect. Also, what about some treasure tricks. The Mother of All Diamonds (Barry Mitchell) should have pirate applications, and there's some Sonnefelt undersea silks (the octopus silks) and Dick Barry's "Go Fish" is a good interactive effect with pirate possibilities. How about Wolf's Blow Yur Stack (the cheese was in cold storage on the ship and got infested by a stowaway mouse - but where is the mouse). Also, aarrggghh, I almost forgot, the Relic would be great, even for older kiddies. And Creative Magic's Flashcards have octopus and jellyfish force cards that are right with your theme .

Posted: Mar 8, 2008 7:16pm
For "pirate" mentalism, this one by Earl and Becker will also be right up your alley. . . .

Message: Posted by: Habu (Mar 12, 2008 12:07PM)
Thank you all for your advice.
This is what I have for a show so far.
I am aiming at an hour show.

Order of Events:

I. Introduction and welcome segment:
[list]Sing opening song (if you're ready for magic clap you're hands)
Self introducion and welcome--during which I notice my assistant is missing.
Production of assistant via Arabian Tent Illusion (using a pirates den)[/list]
[Assistant is dressed up as a lady pirate]

II. Treasure Search segment:
[list]Torn and Restored Treasure Map
Bring out treasure chest
Do Book of Treasures (producing gold treasure coins)
Pirates Change (hopping halfs showing how sneaky pirates are with money)[/list]

III. Pirates work on ships segment:
[list]Rope routines[/list]

IV. Pirates in trouble segment:
[list]Spike through Arm illusion (test of young pirates bravery)
linking ropes as pirate shackles
Guillotine (test of older pirates bravery)[/list]
[the guillotine will have been tempered down due to the spike/arm routine]
[[I also have an aspiring magician that will be called from the audience for this]]

V. Finish
[list]Take bandana (devil's hanky)off of a pirate skull and produce
"The End" silk[/list]

The David Ginn spike through arm should provide enough humor to prepare the audience for the guillotine.

The general patter will be to introduce my assistant, talk about pirates seeking treasure, getting treasure, spending treasure, work on ships, tests of pirate manhood, getting in trouble, escaping from guillotine and finally the end.

I think this is a pretty good beginning, middle and end for the routine.

If this does not run long enough I plan to add in the "pearl" white sponge ball routine mentioned--or multiplying pearls--during the treasure chest sement.