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Topic: Ultimate Magician's Jacket
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Mar 19, 2008 08:56PM)
Time for some brainstorming gentlmen.

What magic-based extras would you include in a jacket if you could do whatever you wanted?

Example:
"I work with balloons, so I'd like a spot to hold my pump"

"I can't seem to find a good spot for my personal items while I work - It would be cool to have a hidden pocket for that."

I need some concepts guys, so hit me with all you've got.
Message: Posted by: KyletheGreat (Mar 24, 2008 07:46PM)
I gotta have my top-it!

I like the personal Items idea too!
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Mar 26, 2008 03:05AM)
Actually I came up with a neat little idea for my personal items when I'm strolling.

Make a bag 6inch wide by 6inch deep and affix velcro at the top to close it.
Put 2 elastic bands on the outside of the bag and slide your belt through them. The bag should currently be draped over your back left pocket, with the elastic loops held by your belt.
Insert anything you want it to hold. Mine can hold a cell phone, small wallet, and keys.

Now flip the entire thing into your waistband.

It should now be completely hidden excluding the 2 elastic bands holding it to your belt.
Message: Posted by: daviaac (Mar 27, 2008 06:07PM)
Dbaker_creator

Not sure if I would add much, but I would love to find a way to make it look less bulky for strolling purposes, i.e., maybe some stronger material around the pockets around the neck down my back could be a strip of weighted material; however I would like all of this to be done without adding much weight to my jacket. Maybe also a small reinforced loop for attaching my pull to, I know it's not much but it saddens me slightly putting holes (although small) into my jacket. Like your idea for the personal items...nice touch.

luke
Message: Posted by: daviaac (Mar 27, 2008 06:11PM)
P.s. Perhaps I would have a small pocket on the inside of my jacket with material made, indexes for gaff, cards/packet, tricks/different coins, or perhaps for mentalism purposes. Hope I haven't exposed too much

luke
Message: Posted by: daviaac (Mar 30, 2008 07:51PM)
Ok gentleman small post but I’ve thought about it and a built in topit would be good also a small pocket within my outside right pocket so I could quickly don my thumb tip without too much hassle maybe also no snags in sleeves just plain sailing for anything needs to be sleeved or fall down my sleeve. perhaps a long thin tube on the inside of my jacket for my magic wand that would also be helpful

luke
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Mar 30, 2008 09:50PM)
I'm in the middle of writing a booklet about close-up and strolling magic. Most of the booklet will be devoted to talking about pocket management and hiding your stuff.

Next week I'll add an item to my store on ebay to help with the woes of managing a Thumb tip.
Message: Posted by: themagiciansapprentice (May 23, 2008 01:24AM)
I've found that the more stuff I get into my jacket the more I look like I'm overloaded. A close friend said I'd put on weight.

I'm going to have to get my mom to adapt a larger size jacket so it fits better WITH ALL OF THE PROPS INSIDE. Not just me. I seemed to gain 4" around my chest and waist.

I do like the idea of having silks hanging down inside the jacket so I don't have to keep going back to my chest or table. Maybe from little pieces of elastic, so I can pull them out.
Message: Posted by: Magical John! (May 29, 2008 11:23PM)
In addition to the topit, it should have the little sleeve pockets JSB has. Also, it should be custom tailored so the sleeves are big enough for birdcages, silks, and whatever else might be pulled up. The cuffs of the sleeves have to be rigid enough for pulls too. Additionally, I think that the vest Tommy Wonder uses should be made to be infused with the jacket. Lastly, I'd like secure ringlets to attach clips and loads to. I can't count how many times I've grabbed my load and found myself with the clip and the pin coming along with it. And one last thing: it should have lights in it so when you're in the dark it glitters, haha.
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (May 29, 2008 11:41PM)
Thank you John, for that display of how to avoid being taken seriously anytime soon.
Message: Posted by: daver (Jun 12, 2008 07:29PM)
I've seen Rocco lecture a couple of times, and he points out specifically that because of the cuts of the sleeves, collar and the quality of the lining (he showed us many a burn mark) even despite the price, he wears Armani suits. Now I'm not Rocco, and I also can't afford Armani, but just another perspective...
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Jun 19, 2008 10:52AM)
Dustin, What's with the 6 x 6" bag INSIDE your trousers? I always empty all my non-essential items into my car before the gig, and put the car keys with the management. This beats having a big lump in the back, and of course, sitting on your cell phone ... On occasion, I stick the car keys in my utility sock - the other sock holds a tin with all the stuff for card on ceiling. Keeps it at the right temperature,

DCB
Message: Posted by: mikeybionic (Jun 22, 2008 08:02PM)
- a cigarette pull in the jacket and in the sleeve
- a silk pull on the other side of the jacket
- a topit (a magnetic one like celini)
- 2 or 3 lit match producers under each side of the lapel
- a lapel flower on a built in reel or better yet, a rose to silk on the reel
- a pocket square on another built in reel that would pull it back into the pocket
- an itr built in on the opposite side of the lapel flower
- 3 interior pockets per jacket side 2 of which could be accessed from the front pockets
- sleeve pockets with little snaps to keep things in
- the lining split along the bottom for cigarette, ball, card, etc. droppers
- a full shot glass production on one side of the jacket and a glass of wine production on the other side
- a bat sewn into one sleeve
- a couple of dove pockets for good measure
- and all the pockets would be flame retardant
Message: Posted by: manal (Jun 28, 2008 12:00AM)
A water proof outer side coat pocket. Just reach in for a goldish so no need for special gimmicks.
Message: Posted by: critter (Aug 23, 2008 07:44PM)
All I need is a good stiff chest pocket and 2 stiff front hand pockets for some ditches.
Reckon it'd be alright if the top seam of the pockets had a bit of medium soft wire to help it stay open slightly.
Message: Posted by: Scott Horn (Aug 25, 2008 01:23PM)
3 thoughts

Pockets within pockets. For example, many coats have a "coin" pocket within the jacket pocket. I would expand on this to have "several" sub-pockets to keep things organized. For example: different coins or coin sets in differenct sub-pockets, paddle tricks, card packets, etc.

"Tunnel" between upper outside pocket to lower outside pocket so a coin secretly ditched into the breast pocket can "appear" in the lower jacket pocket. (ala Bobo Coin Magic)

"Special" pocket for card to wallet wallets. Design to hold wallet snug and depth set to keep loading area "above" the pocket
Message: Posted by: fredlaw (Sep 30, 2008 05:51AM)
Just a thought I'm working on putting a better magician inside my current Jacket seems a life long task:)
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Oct 1, 2008 02:50PM)
Piping on the jacket lining, especially on the shoulders and under the arms, to allow sweat to evaporate. My suits wear out from dry cleaning, more than anything else. It's hard to find a decent dry cleaner, too. The last good one, in my area, retired a few years ago.
Message: Posted by: Mad Mage (Jan 22, 2010 09:35PM)
Sorry, I just found this Discussion.
Built-in Topit with access from the left pocket
Coin trough from breast pocket to lower outer pocket
Raven in left sleeve
Silk pull in right sleeve
Aster's Anti-gravitron set-up on right side
subdivide change pocket for thumb tips and shells
Interior pockets for cards and gaffs
IT reel under label
Coin pocket in the sleeve
Coin dropper
Coin gondola

Just my ideas. I'm working on putting all this on one now.
I just go my the local Goodwill and get one for $8.
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jan 31, 2010 03:56AM)
How much crap are you guys carrying to walkaround gigs? Are you doing hour long sets at each table or something?

If all my stuff doesn't fit into my two outer jacket pockets, two inner jacket pockets and/or two side pants pockets, it ain't coming to the show.

My car keys live in one of my pant back pockets. My wallet stays in the car.
Message: Posted by: Magic Roman (Jun 10, 2011 08:35AM)
This ties in with the whole Ultimate Magician's Jacket thing because it’s appropriate for managing the perfect jacket.
For those who don’t know of the magician Rocco, I highly recommend you check his work out on sleeving. Rocco is a master at sleeving , and when I saw him perform then lecture on sleeving my vanishes and reveals improved dramatically. Also check out the sleeving work of Carl Cloutier, and Johan Stahl.

Roman
Message: Posted by: rsylvester (Jun 30, 2011 10:42AM)
I saw recently that some magic shops are carrying books and DVDs on the lecture of Geoffrey Buckingham.

I'm old enough to have actually seen the lecture. I think some places have it on DVD, too. He was a master of loads and steals. He would show in his lecture how he loaded everything. Then he would do his act and say, "see how many you can catch." It was mind blowing. He'd do multiplying billiard balls for both hands with no s****. If you pick up those notes, it will give you the plans for putting together the ultimate jacket for just about everything you want to do. The key is find a good alterations person to help get the all the pockets in the rights places. Then load up your jacket and then go back and have it altered to fit right WHILE it's loaded. Then you'll get a proper fit without looking like you've gained pounds.

I'm going to get this done with a tux jacket I was lucky enough to find for $6 at a Goodwill store.

Thanks for this post. A lot of great ideas here.
Message: Posted by: Magicray69 (Jun 30, 2011 01:27PM)
It's me! The Great Magicray!

I live in a hot, humid climate (Florida)and usually wear a tee shirt and shorts. Anything heavier and you feel like you're in a sweat lodge. Wearing a conventional suit or sport jacket is out of the question. When my wife was in the hospital, I noticed that many of the doctors wore lab coats or consultation coats.

I needed a jacket for many of my effects so I went out to a medical supply house and found the perfect solution. It's a white, very light cotton consultation coat with 5 pockets outside and 4 pockets inside. Love it! Cost only 20 bucks. I throw it on, roll up the sleeves and I'm ready to show off. You can customize it in a variety of ways, fabric paint, tie-dye, etc. It's also opaque enough to accommodate pulls, a topit, body loads, etc.

Here's a link
http://www.mynursinguniforms.com/dickies-81404.html

Ray
Message: Posted by: rsylvester (Jul 1, 2011 12:00AM)
Ray, you ought to post this on the thread about performing in hot weather. This is great for the price. I'm getting one.

Here's that thread:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=171831&forum=107&30
Message: Posted by: Stavros (Mar 11, 2015 06:54AM)
Rsylvester

Can you please give more details about the Geoffrey Buckingham DVD you are referring? Is that the L&L one?

Thank you

Stavros
Message: Posted by: TRI6KED (Jul 9, 2015 04:26PM)
Here is a Sports jacket with 23 pockets. Its not for magicians but I'm sure there are plenty of pockets in the jacket that will be useful for storage:
http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/SeV-Sportcoat.shtml#pd_video

Here is a shirt with lots of pockets:
http://www.takinoshirt.com/

And another shirt here:
http://www.opsgear.com/collections/concealment-gear/products/f531150?variant=1167895725

Fade-, shrink- and wrinkle-resistant
DuPont™ Teflon® fabric protector repels stains and liquids
Low profile appearance for use both on and off duty
Hidden collar stays provide a clean, professional look
Shoulder epaulets with buttons
Two box-pleated chest pockets with hook and loop closure
Two zippered chest pockets
Two chest pen pockets
Hidden zipper (mock button) front for ease of use
Gusseted underarm increases range of motion
Includes optional badge tab
Message: Posted by: TRI6KED (Aug 16, 2015 07:22AM)
I have just received one of these Sports jackets with 23 pockets
http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/SeV-Sportcoat.shtml

There are many pockets but one in particular is an iPad pocket on the left inside of the jacket. It measures 18 inch along the bottom hem from the button section of the jacket. the pocket height from the bottom hem is 15 inches.
I believe this could easily be converted into a Michael Ammar type topit or similar without too much work.
One thing I noticed is that there are no traditional inside breast pockets in the jacket but it does have 2 inside pen slots on each side of the jacket.
If anyone wants more information on this, just ask.
Kind regards