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Topic: Terminator Fiction or Future ??
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Mar 19, 2008 10:25PM)
Kind of Creepy but it seems like that movie may not be so far off. Check out this robot in development.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww

Best,

Tim

Day 19
Message: Posted by: balducci (Mar 19, 2008 10:56PM)
Big DOG? Looks and sounds more like a big FLY!

(Day XIX)
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Mar 19, 2008 11:05PM)
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On 2008-03-19 23:56, balducci wrote:
Big DOG? Looks and sounds more like a big FLY!

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Yeah... that adds to the creepiness doesn't it. I suspect its simply the high pitch of the motor.

Best,

Tim

Day 20
Message: Posted by: mvmagic (Mar 20, 2008 02:00AM)
Now that's [i]really[/i] creepy! The thing looks very nightmarish. Even creepier when it almost falls down and corrects its balance like a real animal. And the sound just adds to it.


Day 20
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 20, 2008 02:17AM)
At 1:00 I thought that thing was going to lift it's leg and pee on that tree! LOL!
Message: Posted by: MagiClyde (Mar 20, 2008 03:18AM)
[quote]At 1:00 I thought that thing was going to lift it's leg and pee on that tree! [/quote]

I was thinking the same thing! :lol:

Besides the buzzing, there were times when it almost sounded like the trotting of a horse!

It really amazes me how far robotics has come. I was impressed when I first saw asimo! After all, just getting a robot to walk on two legs is quite a feat. Something we do so easily and take for granted is really quite hard to do!
Message: Posted by: Verifythisnow (Mar 20, 2008 03:20AM)
That scared the hell out of me... especially because the video was silent and all you heard was the humming
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Mar 20, 2008 04:40AM)
You can't fool me. There's a couple of little people in that thing.
Message: Posted by: Lyndel (Mar 20, 2008 07:56AM)
Actually, robots have been in use as military weapons since WWII. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine )

...And now they have un-manned machine gun robots that operate remotely. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster-Miller_TALON ) It's only a matter of time before they are put on patrol with artificial intelligence on their own without the control of a human operator. Scary stuff!


Lyndel
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Mar 20, 2008 08:03AM)
The future of war:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Ajq0W7P1A

And here's a robot that can flat out ski:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YiZQh20l3g&feature=related
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Mar 20, 2008 08:05AM)
That seemed too unrobotic in a lot of it's movements (like when it slipped on the ice, was pushed by that guy).

Day 20
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Mar 20, 2008 08:11AM)
And look at how natural the moves seem to be on this robot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YiZQh20l3g&feature=related

(OK, I'm ducking...quit throwing those vegetables at me.)
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Mar 20, 2008 08:15AM)
I prefer the skiing ostrich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2iiNVICfjg&feature=related

Day 20
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Mar 20, 2008 08:48AM)
You people haven't got a clue! That's not a real ostrich. It's a robot.
Message: Posted by: Rupert Bair (Mar 20, 2008 08:59AM)
Terminator is based on a true story, btw.
Message: Posted by: Pakar Ilusi (Mar 20, 2008 09:27AM)
You thought that was scary.... Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIMpZVqM_Y&feature=related
Message: Posted by: balducci (Mar 20, 2008 09:48AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-19 23:25, Timothy Drake wrote:
Kind of Creepy but it seems like that movie may not be so far off. Check out this robot in development.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww

Best,

Tim

Day 19
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Your clip reminded me of Theo Jansen's kinetic sculptures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMqftVhOuTw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b694exl_oZo

(Day 20)
Message: Posted by: MagiClyde (Mar 20, 2008 09:22PM)
Terminator is actually based, in part, on two Outer Limit episodes written by Harlan Ellison: "Demon with a Glass Hand" starring Robert Culp and "Soldier" with Lloyd Nolan and Michael Ansara.

Ellison actually had to take James Cameron to court to get credit for his contribution to the movie. Now it has a the following statement in the end-credits: "Acknowledgment to the works of Harlan Ellison." Luckily, Cameron and Ellison managed to settle the matter out-of-court.

As for the Terminator being fiction or future, I think it is a distinct possibility, but the technology, especially the AI, has a long way to go.

I can't wait for the day that they actually can create a machine that can pass the Turing Test while standing in front of a real human being. No, this isn't exactly the test as conceived by Turing, but consider the possiblity of a robot or android so advanced that you can't distinguish it from a real person with both of them standing right in front of you! That would be the Turing Test on crack! ;)
Message: Posted by: Rupert Bair (Mar 20, 2008 09:42PM)
Actually Sophia Stewart wrote the basis for the matrix and terminator.
Message: Posted by: balducci (Mar 20, 2008 09:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-20 22:42, Rupert Bair wrote:
Actually Sophia Stewart wrote the basis for the matrix and terminator.
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Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not.

Just in case you are serious:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/matrix.asp

(Day 20)
Message: Posted by: Cliffg37 (Mar 20, 2008 10:00PM)
I started my teaching career 17 years ago. I was teaching computer applications in a vocational school. The computers of 17 years ago looked great then and are little more than junk now, not even good for spare parts. I always told my students, as soon as some says they are trying to invent a self aware computer, or one that has no plug to pull, kill them. You will go to prison, but your grandchildren will thank you for it.

Seriously, I think it is going to happen. The real question is will it bring utopia (no wars, equitable distribution of goods and services etc) or dystopia, (see any terminator movie)
Message: Posted by: balducci (Mar 20, 2008 10:02PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-20 22:22, clynim wrote:
Terminator is actually based, in part, on two Outer Limit episodes written by Harlan Ellison: "Demon with a Glass Hand" starring Robert Culp and "Soldier" with Lloyd Nolan and Michael Ansara.
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In part because of the Outer Limits thread in this very forum, I watched both of those episodes just recently. Demon with a Glass Hand just a few nights ago.

I was aware of the Terminator connection going in.

But to be honest, I really didn't see the connection when I watched the episodes. I mean, except in ways that seem sort of obvious and superficial from today's point of view. I don't know what it was like back in the day they aired, maybe the ideas were completely new at the time, and if Cameron actually admitted he was significantly influenced by these episodes then I guess it must be so.

(Day 20)
Message: Posted by: The Drake (May 12, 2008 03:38PM)
Time to revive this thread as the Terminator gets closer and closer to reality.

Oooooooooohhhhh....Scary!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d00_1209560772

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (May 12, 2008 03:56PM)
I always had an issue with the main plot of the terminator. correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm sure I am, but here goes: arnold is sent back to kill sara connor, and in response a guy is sent back to protect her, who in turn impregnates sara.... so if arnold never went back in time, there would be no father for john connor...
Message: Posted by: The Drake (May 12, 2008 04:10PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 16:56, kcg5 wrote:
I always had an issue with the main plot of the terminator. correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm sure I am, but here goes: arnold is sent back to kill sara connor, and in response a guy is sent back to protect her, who in turn impregnates sara.... so if arnold never went back in time, there would be no father for john connor...
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In the hopes of NOT derailing this thread which is about the evolution of robots to the point that they compare to the robot in Terminator please discuss the John Conner debate in this thread created just for that issue . LOL

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=248490&forum=32&39

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (May 12, 2008 04:21PM)
Sorry, Mr. drake. Since it was slightly going towards the whole story of the movie (writing credits, ect...) I thought I would ask. I should have known a thread was created at some point...
Message: Posted by: pepka (May 12, 2008 04:39PM)
Have you seen the latest version of the Big Dog robot?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7_BAJ-d58g&feature=related
Message: Posted by: The Drake (May 12, 2008 04:57PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 17:21, kcg5 wrote:
Sorry, Mr. drake. Since it was slightly going towards the whole story of the movie (writing credits, ect...) I thought I would ask. I should have known a thread was created at some point...
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No worries! Its just that the time paradox thing will throw any thread for a loop! LOL

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: The Drake (May 12, 2008 04:58PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 17:39, pepka wrote:
Have you seen the latest version of the Big Dog robot?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7_BAJ-d58g&feature=related
[/quote]

LOL! You got me!

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: balducci (Dec 16, 2013 11:12PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-19 23:25, The Drake wrote:
Kind of Creepy but it seems like that movie may not be so far off. Check out this robot in development.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww
[/quote]
Google owns Big Dog and its stable of robots now. Lord help us all.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/google-search-and-destroy-the-internet-giant-motto-dont-be-evil-has-bought-a-pioneer-of-scary-robot-animals-can-its-ethics-survive-9007562.html
Message: Posted by: irossall (Dec 17, 2013 04:31AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMI7HIhKdIo
This can get you before you even see it. Nice way to shoot people up with a virus or poison.
Iven :patty:
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 17, 2013 05:28AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 16:56, kcg5 wrote:
I always had an issue with the main plot of the terminator. correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm sure I am, but here goes: arnold is sent back to kill sara connor, and in response a guy is sent back to protect her, who in turn impregnates sara.... so if arnold never went back in time, there would be no father for john connor...
[/quote]

That has always been the main issue with any story about time travel into the past. Or as the Doctor puts it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw