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Topic: Roughing fluid
Message: Posted by: krowboom (Mar 21, 2008 11:48PM)
I am having the hardest time roughing cards. I am trying to rough half of several cards to duplicate a trick explained to me on a magic DVD. I have tried Testors and Krylon matte finish 1311. Neither seems to give the same adherence I find with commercially prepared decks. I have tried a light spray and alternately a heavy spray. Neither seems to work well. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for the help.
Message: Posted by: Stanyon (Mar 22, 2008 12:28AM)
Two light coatings of the Testor's or Krylon at most is all you need. Spray from about 12 inches away from the cards. You want to mist coat the cards not saturate.


Cheers! ;)
Message: Posted by: Mr. Ree (Mar 22, 2008 12:37AM)
Maybe I’ve been lucky mine work fine. But all the info I have gotten
about making this type of deck was here at the café.

(Got this from one of my reference file that I created when doing
research on roughing fluid: (Hope this helps).
On 2007-03-07 16:20, Charlie the Tuna wrote:
Be very conservative in using it; a very light coating or, even better, a few extremely light coats.
On 2007-03-08 12:37, silverking wrote:
It is easier to control the amount with spray, and the amount (along with where you apply it on the card) is what makes the difference between a "good" ID and a "great" ID.
On 2007-05-10 19:25, ChristopherM wrote:
Another tip is to use fanning powder on the smooth sides, to ensure even greater ease-of-use.
On 2007-04-22 07:51, joseph wrote:
And don't use too much!.. :) ..
Although it initially doesn’t look like it should apply
there are some comments about the importance of
the smooth part of this, not only the rough.

On 2007-04-13 14:54, hugmagic wrote:
I use kyrlon artist's fixative spray. A lot will depend how porous the paper is. Also remember it is not only the rough but the smooth. Cleaning or waxing the smooth side can often repair a r/s deck.

Old style roughing fluid
Message: Posted by: Brad Burt (Mar 22, 2008 01:17PM)
Are you sure you are 'roughing' BOTH surfaces? This is a common beginning mistake. It's easy to read the only one surface need be roughed for it to work, but both surfaces that contact each other need to have the coating.

Also, half roughed decks are also somewhat more problematic than a fully roughed card. Try experimenting by roughing the entire surface of two cards and see what happens, etc.? Also, remember to give the surface enough time to dry, etc. That's probably not your problem, but who knows.

Also, as above....it generally shouldn't take a REALLY heavy coat to work. Experimentation is the best way to get it down. Best,
Message: Posted by: rxwookie (Mar 22, 2008 02:58PM)
On 2008-03-22 01:28, Stanyon wrote:
Spray from about 12 inches away from the cards. [/quote]

I spray from 18 inches, although I am quite heavy on the trigger. Stanyon is right, make sure it is a *light mist*. Let them completely dry and test it out.

Message: Posted by: Lester (Mar 23, 2008 07:16AM)
Have you tried the Roughing Stick sold by http://www.stevensmagic.com. Personally speaking, I have found it to be a superb method of roughing cards with the added advantage of avoiding the possibility of inhaling the wretched stuff! Plus it is environmentally friendly. Hope this helps.

Best Magical Wishes
Message: Posted by: krowboom (Mar 24, 2008 12:27PM)
Thanks for all the help. Roughing both sides seemed to be the answer. As soon as I did that it worked perfectly. Thanks.