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Topic: Rabbit Cannon
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Mar 28, 2008 01:44PM)
Would like to build a "Rabbit Cannon"

I believe that one of the Osborn books has plans for a Dove Cannon. Does anyone know if that can be sized for a rabbit, or of any other plans that would work.

I know that Malloy Modern magic sells one but it is a bit out of my price range.
http://www.malloymodernmagic.com/cannon_cage.htm

Any suggestions welcome
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Mar 28, 2008 01:50PM)
We can talk in Canton,
Richard
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Mar 28, 2008 01:55PM)
Richard,

just tried to PM you

"ERROR: The user "hugmagic" is currently not accepting "non-reply" Private Messages"
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Mar 28, 2008 06:46PM)
Richard's signature:
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
http://www.hughesmagic.com
email-hugmagic@raex.com
Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's.

Reading is FUN-da-Mental.

If you don't have a spare $6,000 to buy the Rabbit Cannon, your first step towards making one is to find a tube that your rabbit fits into. You are lucky if it will fit into a large PVC pipe, because that is easy to work with, sawing and cutting to the right length, etc. After that, the rest is relatively easy.
Message: Posted by: optimystik (Mar 28, 2008 08:10PM)
Hi Spellbinder,

Are there plans for a PVC cannon somewhere in one of the Wizards Journals?

Stephen
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Mar 28, 2008 09:37PM)
No, thanks for asking, Stephen. It's something Jim never got around to working on since it's not something he would ever use for his Wiz Kid shows. How about working on one yourself and submitting it for the Wizards' Journals?
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Mar 29, 2008 02:07AM)
Thanks optimystick & Spellbinder

I had check the Magic Nook, was hoping that I just missed it
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Mar 29, 2008 07:08AM)
The reason Jim Gerrish doesn't do this with his Wiz Kids is because once the bunny appears at a kid show, everyone wants to pet the fuzzy bunny and no one much likes the idea of the magician loading it into a cannon and blasting it across the room. It sort of ruins the moment for younger kids.

However, wrapping the bunny in a box for someone to take home, and then discovering the bunny back in his bunny house on stage with a toy bunny left for the kid to take home might be another solution. You could do something like that with the Magic House of Mystery from Jim Gerrish's Hardboard and Duct Tape Book 2, turning the prop into a bunny house and using it for an appearance, a vanish and a reappearance of the bunny.
Message: Posted by: raywitko (Mar 29, 2008 07:08AM)
Bill, I'll be at Canton also.
Ray
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Mar 29, 2008 07:20AM)
If Ray can build a "Gloves to Dove" tabletop that will hold a rabbit, your problem is solved! Use the tabletop to load the bunny into a cannon, but **** the **** until it is out of sight. Pick up the empty cannon (or have a toy realistic bunny head pop out the mouth from time to time) and move it across to the other side of the stage. Go back to the table and erect four sides of a cage on the table. Blow up a large balloon, put it inside the cage, and finally cover the cage with a lid to hold the balloon inside. Back to the cannon for the countdown. Boom, the cannon goes off, Bang! the balloon breaks and there is bunny safe and sound. When the kids stop crying from the horror of the scene and all the noise (the fog of war, I think they call it) you can let them come up and pet the fuzzy bunny. Sorry... that last commentary just slipped out.

I wonder if anyone has ever used the Rabbit Cannon to catch a bunny in his teeth? Just an idea.
Message: Posted by: raywitko (Mar 29, 2008 07:30AM)
I use chickens in the act and always wanted to build one of these for my show. Cannon goes off, feathers everywhere, chicken supposedly passes thru a paper frame leaving an outline of a chicken, and ends up in plastic box across the stage. To busy building for other people to make my own stuff.
Ray
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Mar 29, 2008 07:52AM)
For me the routine would be more like,

me and assistant bring out cannon & cage
put stuffed rabbit in cannon and cover cage
use a pull string to set off cannon - pull the string nothing happens
pull it again - still nothing
walk to front of cannon and look down in
assistant comes up behind me with air horn - I jump and pull the cannon apart
assistant pulls cover off of cage show live rabbit.

No pryo, no bang, no live rabbit shot out, but live rabbit produced at end
but should be funny....
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Mar 29, 2008 06:19PM)
In that case, you can use an old coffee can or cardboard oatmeal box for the cannon! No need for a $6,000 prop at all!

I like the chicken version, by the way! You've got to work a "naked" rubber chicken in there somewhere!
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Mar 29, 2008 07:00PM)
I wonder if a double load production device could be engineered? Something that would make a naked rubber chicken appear... "WAIT!"

Then, a second later... "BOOM!"

In an explosion of feathers, the naked rubber chicken is suddendly transformed into the fully feathered chicken.

"The feathers always take longer!"

Very cartoon-like!
Message: Posted by: raywitko (Mar 30, 2008 08:13AM)
Right now I'm using the rubber chicken in my chicken wringer. Flip open the box and feathers fall out.
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Apr 7, 2008 09:58AM)
>>> Osborn books has plans for a Dove Cannon.
>>>Does anyone know if that can be sized for a rabbit,

The Osborn book that includes the Dove Cannon came in the mail this weekend so I now have my answer, that the Osborn Dove Cannon would not scale up to something as large as a rabbit.

Unless anyone has a source for plans that would work, I guess I will have to design it myself.
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Apr 7, 2008 11:17AM)
Take photos and let us see what you finally come up with!
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Apr 7, 2008 11:59AM)
I will, Thinking about seeing if I can build one that would use table for the Fairchild "Dirt Eradicator" then I would only have to build a cannon.

I need to check some of the angles to make sure that it would work the way I would want it.

http://www.fairchildmagic.com/pages/product_pages/dirt_eradicator.htm
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Nov 24, 2011 10:17AM)
After what 3 years I have finally started the build,

Here is a pic of the first mockup, barrel is 8in by 24 in.
Issues, barrel is to long to be practical and I need to raise the angel to increase the trap area size
so that a rabbit can fit.
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Nov 24, 2011 10:19AM)
Second Mockup

cut the barrel down to 15in, and rasised the angel. Trap is still smaller than I would like,
going to try a 10in diamater tube to see if that gives me the room I want
Message: Posted by: ThatsJustWrong! (Jan 10, 2012 01:46PM)
I used to blow up a rabbit in my nightclub show. Throughout the course of the act, I would toss things into a trashcan next to my table. At some point I would produce a white rabbit and set him aside. When he started to hop around, I'd put him in the trashcan 'to keep him from running off.' Later in the act, I'd 'lose control' of a fire effect and dump it int the trashcan which would then explode. I'd then hit the trashcan with a fire extinguisherm, reach in, and produce a black rabbit wearing a bandage. The fact that the black rabbit tended to bite me was probably deserved. Needless to say, neither rabbit was in the can during the flash effect.

I bring this up, however, because I had a pair of bunny ears that would rise above the rim now and then as if he was climbing the side of the can, etc and maintained the illusion nicely. Someone above had mentioned havng a puppet pop his head out of the barrel but just the ears maintain the illusion nicely and won't block the barrel. That's an excuse to adjust the angle upward, etc. Just a thought. I too would like to see how your cannon comes out!

We also came close to firing a pug out of a Civil War Parrott Rifle (cannon) but that's another story...
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Jan 10, 2012 02:20PM)
This project has been put on the back burner for now. but hope to get back to it a few weeks.
I have a few ideas that I want to test out before I commit myself to a final design.

The show that this is being built for is not until Sep 2012, so I have plenty of time. To much time even.
No presure to get it done so other projects keep getting priority. Right now I am rebuilding/restoring an old hot tub spa...
Message: Posted by: ThatsJustWrong! (Jan 10, 2012 02:44PM)
I can teach you how to make bubbles in a hot tub. Just ask!
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Jan 10, 2012 04:40PM)
Have you thought about a rabbit switching cage, in which the live rabbit is apparently lifted out of the cage, but a switch is made so you are actually holding a realistic puppet duplicate rabbit? Putting a fake rabbit in the cannon solves a lot of problems, since fake rabbits aren't afraid to disappear.
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jan 10, 2012 06:10PM)
A rabbit cannon? Man, you must have big rabbits. I usually just use a shotgun! :)

Regan
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Jan 11, 2012 01:33PM)
Regan

my rabbit is so big he has his own shotgun.....
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Jan 11, 2012 04:03PM)
Is that so he can defend himself against rabbit foot hunters?
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Jan 12, 2012 12:34PM)
In my family we hunt and eat rabbits..... This is so he can defind himself from my brothers....

He is 9 months, a bit over 20lbs. He chases/beets up pitbolls for fun (not kidding!! he really does)

and his name is Tiny.

Anyway he is not the rabbit that will be shot out of the cannon. I am looking for a small breed rabbit
that looks kind of like him. I have a Blammo Box that I vanish a small rabbit and change it into a large rabbit.

Here is another Pic of Tiny, (he is the one with the long ears)
Message: Posted by: btedeski (Jan 12, 2012 12:37PM)
Here is a pic of the box that I produce tiny out of... Yes I built this myself

Currently I place two small breed rabbits into the cage, and combine them into one Large Rabbit...

You should see the face on the kids when the get a load of Tiny... It is worth it...
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jan 12, 2012 01:36PM)
Wow, Tiny sure is...a load! You might need a cannon for him! :)