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Topic: Essential Poker Sleights
Message: Posted by: Sinch (Apr 1, 2008 10:30PM)
Hey guys. We should compile a list of the most essential sleights to learn in order to cheat at poker and maybe the best variations types of that sleight. I'll start it off.

False shuffles
Mucking
Riffle stacks
Nail Marking
Peaks
Blind Cuts
Cut locations
Palming
Stock shuffles
Cull shuffles
Deck switches

I think those are the more important ones. I'm not sure what the best ways of doing them are though. I think that the Zarrow shuffle is the best way to have a go at a false shuffle. I'm not sure though. Please tell me if I was wrong about any of the above sleights or missed any out. Or if you think that there is a particular peak or muck or whatever that is the best. Thanks in advance for the help =).
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Apr 2, 2008 01:57AM)
Punch (deal)
for that matter, false deals?
Message: Posted by: silverking (Apr 2, 2008 11:06AM)
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On 2008-04-01 23:30, Sinch wrote:
Hey guys. We should compile a list of the most essential sleights to learn in order to cheat at poker
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Why would anybody who knew what they were talking about contribute to your list?

Don't you think folks who post in this forum already have all the answers you seek?

.........and why do you think they would share those answers?
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Apr 2, 2008 11:32AM)
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On 2008-04-02 12:06, silverking wrote:

Why would anybody who knew what they were talking about contribute to your list?

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Because they're 14 years old?

Wait...maybe then they really wouldn't know what they're talking about.

I have to think about this some more.
Message: Posted by: C. Loubard (Apr 2, 2008 12:48PM)
Sinch, there is no such thing as the essential sleights and certainly your list is not essential.

I recommend you study the game and become intimate with it.
Message: Posted by: C-Taylor (Apr 2, 2008 01:30PM)
Your question is something time will tell. also there are better shuffles than the zarrow, yes its good, but there are so few who can actually do it well - gambles and magicians.
Message: Posted by: in flames (Apr 2, 2008 01:45PM)
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On 2008-04-01 23:30, Sinch wrote:
Or if you think that there is a particular peak or muck or whatever that is the best. Thanks in advance for the help =).
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I have this .25"x.25" mirror with double stick tape that I use for peeks. Any sized boxing gloves (look for 16 oz. they conceal the most) is great for palms and especially mucks. No one will see it.
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Apr 2, 2008 03:52PM)
Some how I knew that I should have just left his post alone, and let him learn things the hard way...

kevin
Message: Posted by: C. Loubard (Apr 2, 2008 03:58PM)
Actually, kcg, false deals and punch work are "NOT" essentials either.

Having a thorough knowledge of the game is the essential one should have.
Message: Posted by: matu (Apr 2, 2008 04:50PM)
Talking about the Zarrow, David Ben's article in Genii was superb.
Message: Posted by: magician8 (Apr 2, 2008 05:00PM)
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On 2008-04-02 12:32, stoneunhinged wrote:
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On 2008-04-02 12:06, silverking wrote:

Why would anybody who knew what they were talking about contribute to your list?

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Because they're 14 years old?

Wait...maybe then they really wouldn't know what they're talking about.

I have to think about this some more.
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What does the age have to do with anything? being young is not the same as being stupid,


8
Message: Posted by: Stilts (Apr 2, 2008 05:31PM)
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On 2008-04-02 18:00, magician8 wrote:
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On 2008-04-02 12:32, stoneunhinged wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 12:06, silverking wrote:

Why would anybody who knew what they were talking about contribute to your list?

[/quote]

Because they're 14 years old?

Wait...maybe then they really wouldn't know what they're talking about.

I have to think about this some more.
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What does the age have to do with anything? being young is not the same as being stupid,


8
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When discussing cheating at cards age equates to experience (in most cases).

Also being smart does not equate to being experienced. Just like having knowledge doesn't equate to having wisdom.
Message: Posted by: J.Buddy (Apr 2, 2008 05:49PM)
Stilts

Very well said.

J
Message: Posted by: magician8 (Apr 2, 2008 05:52PM)
That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.


8
Message: Posted by: C. Loubard (Apr 2, 2008 06:17PM)
Magician8 your post history shows you don't know. I strongly urge you to sit in silence on this topic... don't get cocky! getting cocky is a sure way for folks not to let you in on other things
Message: Posted by: magician8 (Apr 2, 2008 07:12PM)
Not cocky, I just don't like generalizations.


8
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Apr 2, 2008 07:24PM)
You're right, 8. I was generalizing. I guess I'm an idiot. Sorry. Please forgive me.

I'm getting old and stupider by the minute.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Apr 2, 2008 07:29PM)
Hey, I just realized I'm the only one in this thread with an AVATAR!

Yippee!

OK, I look like a retard in my avatar, so go ahead...pour abuse on me...I look like a retard and...I AM a retard.

But I love you all.

And I own a pack of Black Tigers. So I obviously know what I'm talking about.
Message: Posted by: magician8 (Apr 2, 2008 07:32PM)
Don't worry about it jeff,


8
Message: Posted by: J.Buddy (Apr 2, 2008 07:54PM)
Jeff, Your avatar is very deceptive.
Message: Posted by: J.Buddy (Apr 2, 2008 07:56PM)
Magician8

You do know what you are talking about- from your own personal experiences.
Message: Posted by: C. Loubard (Apr 2, 2008 08:49PM)
Ughhh!!!!
Message: Posted by: ghostpianist (Apr 2, 2008 09:48PM)
LOL
Message: Posted by: silverking (Apr 2, 2008 10:05PM)
If newbies don't bother to figure out how to post in this forum, they deserve the cold shoulder they invariably get.

It makes coming here pointless for the new visitor, so do it makes a lot of sense the right way...........which is a lot of listening, and not very much talking.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Apr 3, 2008 12:36AM)
It's sad that I sometimes can't type.........should read..."so to do it the right way makes a lot of sense".
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Apr 3, 2008 03:05AM)
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On 2008-04-02 16:58, C. Loubard wrote:
Actually, kcg, false deals and punch work are "NOT" essentials either.

Having a thorough knowledge of the game is the essential one should have.
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Point taken, C.


Kevin