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Topic: My incredible appearing cane idea
Message: Posted by: Carron (Mar 20, 2003 11:11AM)
I came up with this whilst in bed around 3 AM. I haven't tried it so I'm unsure if it will work. Take your appearing cane and tie the string from a party popper to it, now when you relase the catch you will produce streamers and a bang which will hide the notorious swoosh sound as the cane opens

Tom

:yawn:
Message: Posted by: boltt223 (Mar 20, 2003 02:43PM)
I'll go out and get some poppers and try it. If you try it before me. Let me know how it looks. :smiles:
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (Mar 20, 2003 02:47PM)
I remember reading this before. Have you posted the idea in the past?

One thing I may point out is you would have to use a metal cane, as they are faster. I am not convinced a Fantasio would have enough power to pop the party popper.

Nice idea though, for anyone who uses metal canes!

-Kevin-
Message: Posted by: ChrisZampese (Mar 20, 2003 03:10PM)
This idea has been posted somewhere else, but great thinking on your part if you havent seen that post!!
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (Mar 20, 2003 04:42PM)
I researched, it was posted [url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=20200&forum=10&4]here[/url] by the same member; tom mccarron.

Maybe he was just re posting his idea, or maye he forgot he posted it.

:yikes:

-Kevin-
Message: Posted by: ChrisZampese (Mar 20, 2003 09:55PM)
Well, when you are up at 3 am thinking of effects, then it is no wonder he loses track of previous posts! :)
Message: Posted by: Symmatrix (Mar 21, 2003 02:14AM)
I tried it before but it won't pop... the power of the appearing cane is not power enough to get the party popper to pop...

hmm...

any idea why?

Symmatrix :firedevil:
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (Mar 21, 2003 07:23AM)
You were using a metal cane Symmatrix?

If a metal cane won' pop the popper, no cane will. They are the fastest appearing ones.

:sick:

-Kevin-
Message: Posted by: Magicman13 (Mar 21, 2003 02:04PM)
The effect sounds wonderful and is probably pleasing to the eye.

How else could this be done. Can the popper be pre-pulled a tad? Is there some other way to produce the same effect?

Some food for thought.:crazydude:

Leon! Cheers :bubbly:
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (Mar 21, 2003 04:36PM)
I don't think there is any way to 'loosen' a popper, and if the metal cane isn't strong enough to pop it, the fantasio one certainly won't be.

Maybe while the cane is prepared with the popper attached, just before you flip the lock with your thumb, your other fingers could pull the streamer away. So the streamer pops, then the cane appears.

It wouldn't be as nice as the original idea, but maybe it isn't possible.

:shrug:

-Kevin-
Message: Posted by: Carron (Mar 23, 2003 02:08PM)
Thanks guys, I did post this awhile back but I thought no one had seen it. I recently cut open a popper and just got the snapper, it just about worked but there was no streamers :cry: but anyway let's all keep experimenting, some pro-magician might slip this into their next routine (hint, hint, Mr. Burton) anyway, guys keep posting here with any new cane ideas you have!

Thank you
Tom :rainbow:
Message: Posted by: Symmatrix (Mar 23, 2003 06:12PM)
[quote]
On 2003-03-21 08:23, -The Scot- wrote:
You were using a metal cane Symmatrix?

If a metal cane won' pop the popper, no cane will. They are the fastest appearing ones.

:sick:

-Kevin-
[/quote]

Yup I am using Metal cane, Kevin.. :firedevil:
Message: Posted by: David Todd (Mar 25, 2003 11:41AM)
This is an interesting idea, Tom.
I'm going to get some of those poppers and mess around with it. There may be some way to trip the release or loosen it so that the cane can do the work. Could be a flashy cane production if anyone can find a way to release the popper automatically with the cane.

Now, your comment about "the notorious [i]swoosh[/i] sound" that the cane makes reminded me that there are ways to get around that simply by the handling. If you've seen Dale Salwak or Jeff McBride do the appearing cane then notice how they handle it so that the silk sort of just
"melts" into the cane. They don't let the cane snap out in one hand, but use both hands to control the speed. It is still a fast transformation from silk to cane, but without the "swoosh".

You have to work on the timing so it's just right. IF you are too timid or go too slow it will be obvious what is happening. Too fast and you get a "swoosh" sound. Somewhere in between fast and slow release you will get a pleasing effect of silk melting into a cane.

McBride shows the handling in his McBride On Stage video series. (I think it's in Vol. 1)
Message: Posted by: -The Scot- (Mar 25, 2003 12:39PM)
It is Volume 3, I am certain.

Also, I have found you can use a larger silk when doing the transformation when rubbing the silk between your hand, there isn't as much need for the cane to 'yank' in the silk.

:fruity: