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Topic: Hayfever
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jun 5, 2008 11:43AM)
Got it? I do. And I am suffering [b]big time[/b] right now. Maybe another beer will help?
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Jun 5, 2008 12:02PM)
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On 2008-06-05 12:43, stoneunhinged wrote:
Got it? I do. And I am suffering [b]big time[/b] right now. Maybe another beer will help?
[/quote]
I don't got that,

but

I do got [i]this[/i]...:stout: :cheers:
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jun 5, 2008 12:24PM)
Sadly beer doesn't help me. Coffee sometimes does, though.

:stircoffee:

John
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Jun 5, 2008 12:29PM)
Got [b]lots[/b] of that around here...

Here, this one is on me!

Enjoy.

:coffee:
Message: Posted by: spatlind (Jun 5, 2008 01:09PM)
Yep, I suffer badly. Nothing has helped, sprays, pills, shots, just gotta go through it..
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jun 6, 2008 12:57AM)
Beers dramatically worsen allergies for me. Go out, get out, exercise in that pollen ridden environment. THAT has clinically provided relief to me.
Message: Posted by: Markymark (Jun 6, 2008 08:25AM)
There is a great tablet called 'Telfast' in Europe.Maybe it is under a different
name in the states but it is worth trying. It is only available from a doctor over
here.
Message: Posted by: michaelmystic2003 (Jun 7, 2008 06:31AM)
I have hayfever as well... sneezed nine times in a row in a class this week and it all happens constantly. I use a nasal spray.
Message: Posted by: danielellis_5 (Jun 7, 2008 11:45AM)
I have it as well. It's not too bad, but still unpleasant.

Dan
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 7, 2008 02:35PM)
I suggest taking alfalfa tablets (found in health stores) and eating honey.

Interesting coincidence. My best friend suffered from alergies his whole life and they suddenly just stopped. A couple weeks later he found out he had cancer and passed away a few months later, he was always wondering if the cancer shut down the alergy.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jun 25, 2010 11:41AM)
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On 2008-06-06 01:57, Tom Cutts wrote:
Beers dramatically worsen allergies for me. Go out, get out, exercise in that pollen ridden environment. THAT has clinically provided relief to me.
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This year I can't hide in my room suffering, because I have a new dog who needs his walks. I usually take him on 2 2-3 mile walks per day.

Since the blooming started, it has been hell. I had a major attack in the dog park today. I had to basically drag the dog away from the friends he was playing with to come hide in my room, where I feel much better.

So much for going out and exercising.
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Jun 25, 2010 11:46AM)
The best approach to "hayfever" is the most natural one and that is to flush out of your nose (there is a "filter" in there) all the allergens in the environment that is driving your allergy symptoms. There is a cheap product called SINUS RINSE (by NeilMed) that will do that for you. Just fill it with warm tap water, add 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt, and clean out that nose filter.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jun 25, 2010 12:09PM)
That sounds like a good idea, but for the last three years what's really killing me is my eyes. I look like a demon, and my eyes feel like they have salt in them.

Oh well. The crosses I bear. :sigh:
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Jun 25, 2010 12:28PM)
There is an over the counter eyedrop called Zaditor (ketotifen) that may help the eyes. Before anyone ask how I know all this, the answer is that I am a Board Certified allergist, practicing for over 20 years now.
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Jun 25, 2010 12:50PM)
I noticed my hay fever was significantly reduced when I started taking fish oil suppliments. I wasn't sure if it was just a coincidence until about a month ago, when my wife noted she had seen a medical report that fish oil did, in fact, help reduce hay fever symptoms.

And yes, the NEIL-MED sinus rinse really helps for both stuffed up nose and sneezing, and sore throat from post-nasal drip.

This year's been especially bad, though, with the weather alternating cool and rainy and hot and windy, which sends tree pollen levels soaring. I discovered my N95 filter mask that I wear when woodworking actually helps with the pollen, as well. I won't do yardwork anymore unless I wear it.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jun 25, 2010 06:07PM)
Thanks for bringing up NeilMed, George. I use their Neti Pot (basically the cheaper, old-school, gravity-feed version of the squeeze bottle for those unfamiliar). The kit comes with saline packets. I saw Neti pots on some medical show, and figured it was a better solution to drugs, although on really bad days, I will take a 24 hour Clariton (generic).

The Neti pot is also a godsend when I've spent a long day in the woodshop.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Jun 25, 2010 08:50PM)
I have central air, I take alergy pills, I still have a sneezing fit every morning, and it will go away in October.

I haven't heard anyone use the word "hayfever" in about 40 years, I feel like I'm in a time warp. Generally people these days use the word "allergies" when they are talking about seasonal sinus irritations.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 25, 2010 09:44PM)
I've not had problems since my nose surgery...no colds or nuttin'.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Jun 25, 2010 09:58PM)
Santa
You live in the high desert of north western Nevada, and you ain't got no pollen up there. I live in the hot/humid north east, where we got stuff growing from the cracks in the sidewalk.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 25, 2010 10:35PM)
No pollen? Are you kidding? We have brush and grasses all over the place, my property is full of them, and there is an alfalfa field at the end of my street that they just did their first cut last week. The desert is covered with brush.
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Jun 26, 2010 12:45AM)
Surgery will not correct any allergies as the problem is an immune issue. Enlarged adenoids, polyps, hypertrophic turbinates, a narrow sinus drainage system can be corrected by surgery as these are anatomical issues, not the genetic driven immune responses to allergens in the environment that is the driving force in allergy sufferers. If anthing, surgery can worsen an allergy sufferer.

Yes, the correct term for "hayfever" is allergic rhinitis. The best approach is flushing out the allergens in the nose, daily use of nasal cortisone spray, or allergy shots to desensitize (but not always effective)
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jun 26, 2010 11:48AM)
[quote]
On 2010-06-25 12:41, stoneunhinged wrote:
This year I can't hide in my room suffering, because I have a new dog who needs his walks. I usually take him on 2 2-3 mile walks per day.

So much for going out and exercising.
[/quote] :lol: Walking isn't really exercise. Unless your dogs are taking you for a run, you have not really gotten out and gotten the exercise required.
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jun 26, 2010 12:48PM)
What! You mean you think I should do something heavy on the cardiovascular side, breathing deep lungfuls of pollinated air?

My goodness.

Not even my hippy leftist vegetarian peacenik healthnut wife has suggested I do that.

But you may have a point.

Next time I have a real fit, I'm doing fifty miles on my bike to see what happens.

Uh, but next year.
Message: Posted by: Ray Tupper. (Jun 26, 2010 02:44PM)
So,exercising in the great outdoors cures hayfever.
What have the doctors been doing all these years?
I'm also gonna stop walking now that I've learn't it's not real exercise.The hours I've wasted!
Ray.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Jun 26, 2010 03:01PM)
Are you sure it is hayfever and not asthma? I am dying from a variety of problems starting with asthma, and this point in time it has me full blast in breathing difficulties.

BTW, I never had allergies or asthma until I turned 60.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jun 27, 2010 02:13AM)
Yes Stone, get real exercise in the environment which harbors the offending element. It'll do you good.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 27, 2010 02:24AM)
George, I don't have allergies, when they straightened my nose the doctor said it flushed more effectively so less colds etc. If ya wanna argue with him let me know and I'll give you his name and number.
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Jun 27, 2010 09:04AM)
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On 2010-06-26 01:45, GeorgeG wrote:
The best approach is flushing out the allergens in the nose, daily use of nasal cortisone spray, or allergy shots to desensitize (but not always effective)
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I used cortisone spray when I was a lot younger. It didn't really work- my nose was too stuffed for it to get up in my sinuses. When it did get up there, it wrecked my sense of smell (except for strong (or tasty) odors like bacon.)
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Jun 27, 2010 01:17PM)
MagicSanta...it's what I said any - anatomical issue can be corrected with surgery. In your case, you must have had a significantly deviated septum that the operation, called a septoplasty, must have corrected your problem. Some surgeons will also perform what is called turbinate reduction, that will also further improve air flow through the nose when the septoplasty is done.

EsnRedshirt...cortisone nasal spray should work, unless 1) it's not an allergy problem or 2)there is so much allergy inflammation in there that there isn't enough cortisone in the spray to ever reverse it, so a very high dose is needed to bring the inflammation down to a manageable level. This means a cortisone injection (Kenalog or Solumedrol) or cortisone pills (Prednisone or Medrol) for 5 to 10 days.
Message: Posted by: jesse_james_mcguire (Jun 27, 2010 01:48PM)
Got some Allegra D and you will be fine.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 27, 2010 02:15PM)
Dats what I had! A septoplasty.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Jun 27, 2010 04:17PM)
Doctor GeorgeG
The 10 mg of Loratadine that I do every morning no longer works. My eyes water, nose runs, and I sneeze a lot. My wife tells me to ask my family doctor for generic Alegra 180mg. I need the generic because of the price, and the Loratadine no longer works for me. Could I have a free diagnosis please?
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Jun 27, 2010 05:31PM)
Antihistamines "mask" not heal allergies...much like cough medicine helps with the coughing in a bronchitis, but does not heal the bronchitis. This is why they eventually fail to help in the long run, as the allergy inflammation continues to progress. Antihistamines were really designed as temporary relief, not for long term management.

IF you have to continue with an antihistamine, try rotating every 6 weeks. Loratadine and cetirizine (generic for Zyrtec) are available with NO prescription. These two can be taken twice a day, if needed. Chlorpheniramine 4mg (older and cheap, over the counter antihistamine) is especially great for runny nose, postnasal drip, or throat clearing due to a property called "anticholinergic" that is not found in the newer antihistamines. It comes in 4mg tablets and can be taken 1-2 at bedtime, but can cause daytime drowsiness and not recommended if you have an enlarged prostate.
Message: Posted by: Ray Tupper. (Jun 27, 2010 05:58PM)
George,what's your opinion on Toms,running round in a field full of pollen,cure?
Ray.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Jun 27, 2010 06:34PM)
Thank you very much Doctor George.