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Topic: ACAN
Message: Posted by: fergie33 (Jun 27, 2008 03:46PM)
http://www.fasttricks.com/magic_trick_219_Any-card-at-any-number.php

any reviews for this this looks unbelievable.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jun 27, 2008 03:52PM)
That ain't ACAAN

Its Ran*** F**** St**** D*** Fin*** F**** CN :)

But hey, for $18 - those who don't know what the heck I'm babbling about - go get it - looks like a nice blend of various techniques for a simulated ACAAN.
Message: Posted by: yarky (Jun 28, 2008 10:31AM)
I have just bought this and I think its great.
It says no memory work but there is a fraction of memory work but that's really easy stuff. If you can remember your zip code you can do it. Well done!
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 28, 2008 11:06AM)
They have another effect that looks ok

http://www.fasttricks.com/magic_trick_220_Executive-Transvestite-by-Jamie-Allan.php
Message: Posted by: Platt (Jun 28, 2008 12:16PM)
Looks pretty *** good to me. Obviously with the fingers bit, it's not a true ACAAN but still impressive. The problem with videos for ACAAN is you're often shown the better cleanest outcomes. I assume that's the case here.
Message: Posted by: magicman1 (Jun 28, 2008 03:26PM)
Both effects look great to me
Don
Message: Posted by: Platt (Jun 28, 2008 10:06PM)
DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS MISREPRESENTED TRASH!

I wasted $18 on this extremely dirty ACAN because I thought there was no possible way the creator would stoop so low as to create this deceptive of demo video. I figured he might have the spectator 'choose' an ideal number in the deck to count down to (which he did) but I didn't think he possibly would have shown what turns out to be a magician's choice sequence. And the way he so fairly and openly words the questions in the demo doesn't even appropriately set you up for equivoque. That's flat out deception. I'll tell you right now, he has to narrow it down to one card. Sorry if this feels like exposure to some of you, but this charlatan has to be called out. It's simply an unfair demo where 'perfect' conditions, which rarely occur, are shown. By the way, the outs he suggests if the spectator happens to say the undesirable answer are abominable. They don't even make any sense.

So magicman, yes, the effect does look great on the video. Unfortunately it will rarely if ever play out like that. This is misrepresented trash. The creator should be ashamed. I'm ashmed to have wasted 18 hard earned dollars. If you're interested in this type of plot buy GRAIL.

0 out of 10
Message: Posted by: afuoco (Jun 28, 2008 10:50PM)
Thanks Platt--you have saved a lot of people $18.

I keep forgetting that old line about "If it looks too good, it probably isn't."
Message: Posted by: fbnc (Jun 28, 2008 10:56PM)
Thanks Platt, It looked to good to be true. Sorry you had to take the bullet
on this one.
Message: Posted by: slydini62 (Jun 29, 2008 01:01AM)
I think we all should send Platt one dollar to cover his $18.00 loss...

Agreed?
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (Jun 29, 2008 01:22AM)
Sadly, I was just about to post the same thing :( Platt is 100% correct about this effect. When you receive the effect, he shows another live performance in the beginning in which he uses the "outs" with a woman. The second I heard him say the first out, I thought, what the hell is he talking about...? A spectator would have to be brain dead if you used them. No holy grail here, just holy crap.
Message: Posted by: runawayjag (Jun 29, 2008 01:46AM)
Demo's for effects using equivoce almost ALWAYS show the perfect situation. I can think of at least three others where I wondered how that trick would have looked had she responded with red, for example, to the initial vague question. Whenever I hear, "Imagine a deck of cards..." or something similar, I usually just pass it by.
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jun 29, 2008 03:58AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-28 12:06, lunatik wrote:
They have another effect that looks ok

http://www.fasttricks.com/magic_trick_220_Executive-Transvestite-by-Jamie-Allan.php
[/quote]

this one looks more of a winner than the other, but ya never know...
Message: Posted by: magicman1 (Jun 29, 2008 05:55AM)
This is the one I really like lunatik, but now after the review on the other one I'm very skeptical

Anyone have this one about the 3 card monty effect?
Don
Message: Posted by: yarky (Jun 29, 2008 06:25AM)
The problem with everyone's comments is that they have not preformed the trick. I did close up last night and at the end of the night, I did WTF to the organizer at her table and it landed me another gig. The best $18 I have spent as it got me another $1000.
Yes it is not a true ACAAN but to an audience it is the real deal (and they were not brain dead!) This is a great trick if you are a WORKING magician!
Message: Posted by: Platt (Jun 29, 2008 09:00AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-29 07:25, yarky wrote:
The problem with everyone's comments is that they have not preformed the trick. I did close up last night and at the end of the night, I did WTF to the organizer at her table and it landed me another gig. The best $18 I have spent as it got me another $1000.
Yes it is not a true ACAAN but to an audience it is the real deal (and they were not brain dead!) This is a great trick if you are a WORKING magician!
[/quote]

No that's not exactly the problem, Yarky. I have no doubt you received a decent reaction from the effect. I also have no doubt peforming Invisible Deck ($8) or a vanish with a thumbtip ($3) or absolutely any other version of ACAAN we as magicians are familiar with ($0) would have given you an equal reaction. That is not the point. A strong premise is a strong premise. The point is this: If you release a new version of an age old premise, you have some responsibilities. One of those is fairly demonstrating the advantages between your method and the long list of others. There are many versions of ACAAN where the spectator can freely call out any card and any number. If you look at this person's description and video, you're unfairly led to believe (with the modification of a finger type force) the same is true here, with the added bonus of not having to touch the pack.

When you cough up the $18 it's revealed that the demo was in fact a perfect scenario where no equivoque had to be used. Odds of that: 1 in 24. You tell me. Is that a fair representation? What happened to those other 23 videos? If he were to give some brilliant thoughts on magician's choice, I'd throw him a bone. But he doesn't. In fact his language when the undesirable answers are given makes no sense.

Again, can you get a decent reaction from this? I'm sure. Is it any fairer or cleaner than any other ACAANs out there?
Absolutely not. I've seen a lot of versions and this is the worst I've seen to date. But I digress , the real issue at hand here is the disgustingly deceptive video. Don't be a victim.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Jun 29, 2008 10:00AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-29 07:25, yarky wrote:
The problem with everyone's comments is that they have not preformed the trick.
[/quote]
The problem with your comments is that you presume a magician HAS to work with this trick in order to understand all its shortcomings.

It's an ACAAN, not some revolutionary new method for some brilliant new, "never-been-seen-before" card effect.

Experienced magi don't NEED TO BUY and DON'T NEED TO PERFORM something in order to see clearly that it's being deceptively marketed, and uses a method that, although it may work, is hardly elegant and not even close to the quality of many, MANY other ACAAN's out there.

BTW, welcome to the Café!
Message: Posted by: Xpilot (Jun 29, 2008 11:29AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-29 07:25, yarky wrote:
The problem with everyone's comments is that they have not preformed the trick. I did close up last night and at the end of the night, I did WTF to the organizer at her table and it landed me another gig. The best $18 I have spent as it got me another $1000.
Yes it is not a true ACAAN but to an audience it is the real deal (and they were not brain dead!) This is a great trick if you are a WORKING magician!
[/quote]

The problem with someone who shows up and makes his first posts in praise of a crappy marketed trick (which might have been worth 2 pages in a book, or perhaps one trick on a multi-trick DVD) which is deceptively advertised is that they look like either a shill or someone with a stake in the success of the trick. Or both.

Are you the guy doing the trick in the video?
Message: Posted by: fvdbeek (Jun 29, 2008 01:04PM)
The best magicians still the ones who are trying to sell us their tricks, I sometimes think.

Frans
Message: Posted by: Lseeyou (Nov 8, 2008 07:14AM)
IF you ever perform this, just look the faces the people who you did it!
I like very much this one and it's a real killer. Start clean end clean. Very clever the method and the thoughts on this one. Just relax and do it :)

I have tried a couple of times and people just can't believe on it! my 2 cents.


I would like to congratulate the guy that came up with this one.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Nov 8, 2008 10:49AM)
Deceptively marketed trash.
[i]Any[/i] ACAAN out there is a better investment than this one.
Message: Posted by: magicFreak2 (Feb 1, 2010 06:53PM)
Thanks Platt. Whew, almost shot $18 bucks there.