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Topic: The Cards Remain The Same- The Groove Electric Switch is here!
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Jul 28, 2008 10:55AM)
Hi All-

I have completed a brand new manuscript that I think will tickle the fancy of all you card nuts out there. It's called [b]The Groove Electric Swtich [/b]and it can be found inside [b]"The Cards Remain The Same" [/b]

[i]“The Groove Electric Switch is even more devious than changing the name of liver to “foie.” I was fooled by both the first time.”[/i]
[b]-Steve Beam[/b]

[i]“Groove Electric combines a clean mechanical action with an optical swindle, and the result is something beautiful to behold.”[/i]
[b]-David Regal[/b]

You can see a quick video and get all the details by clicking here [url=http://www.docdocherty.com]The Cards Remain the Same[/url]

Thank you
Doc Docherty
Message: Posted by: Y2John (Jul 28, 2008 11:20AM)

Just purchased the ebook version, looks good on the vid... looking forward to checking it out.

Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Jul 28, 2008 04:33PM)

Thanks for the order, you should have it now.

Let me know what you think and tell me if you have any problems.

Message: Posted by: balducci (Jul 30, 2008 12:56PM)
Does the soft cover version come with the E-Book on the included CD-Rom?
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Jul 30, 2008 09:05PM)

Unfortunately it does not. I am only going to be offering the E Book for a limited time and did not want to leave out those that perfer E Books over the real thing. Sorry about that.

Message: Posted by: Magicmaven (Jul 31, 2008 01:16PM)
This is a beautiful switch. Highly recommended.
Message: Posted by: balducci (Jul 31, 2008 02:16PM)
From the video I would have to agree.

I've placed my order, and I look forward to reading about and learning this in due course.
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 1, 2008 08:53AM)
Thanks so much for those that have ordered The Cards Remain The Same.

For those that are curious I have posted two effects from the manuscript. You can view it by clicking [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nfkLdFM6JE]Groove Effects[/url]

Once again Thanks for the orders so far and hope you enjoy it.

Doc Docherty

Get it by clicking here [url=http://www.docdocherty.com]Cards Remain the Same[/url]
Message: Posted by: magicmerlz (Aug 3, 2008 05:42AM)
Hi all

This looks great, and am very tempted to buy, but is it a knuckle buster to pull off or reasonably simple?

Thanks in advance

Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 3, 2008 10:04AM)
I have had a couple of questions about how difficult the sleight is to learn. The sleight itself is not hard but it does take practice as would any card sleight does to master. If you can do a fan you can learn the move. If you put the time in to get the mechanics and timing down you should have no problems. I would say that it is in the reach of the average card worker, I would not, however, recommend to early beginners as you might get frustrated with the move and never learn it. Thanks for asking, any more questions just ask.

Message: Posted by: magicmerlz (Aug 3, 2008 10:56AM)
I appreciate your honesty Doc, many thanks.

Message: Posted by: Tom G (Aug 4, 2008 07:46AM)
Hi Doc,

Quick question, how are the angles?
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 4, 2008 08:58AM)
Hi Tom-

The switch is angle proof depending how you get into it. You will understand that once you learn the square up, which can be a little angle prone but can be worked to make it angle proof as well. So the switch part is angle proof.
The Zoso Change is not as angle proof ( there is a dirty side!) and all that is clearly explained in the manuscript with ways to perform the change at different angles.

Message: Posted by: Blake Douglass (Aug 7, 2008 10:13AM)
If I am not mistaken both of these moves are unoriginal. The change belongs to our own Café member Eric Jones, and the switch dates back to the 70's, I will find the exact name of it. As far as I am concerned the only original thing here is the new names of these old moves.
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 7, 2008 10:45AM)

The Zoso Change was published in 2006 in the ECSS book 1, it has roots from Larry Jennings opitical add on and Robert Moreland's Cloud Change( both are credited). Eric Jones was at the convention and has a variation of that change and permission was given by him to include his varation of my change in the manuscript.

Could find a reference to the switch that dates back to the 70's? I would love to research it. I don't know of any switch like this and came up with this on my own. If there is reference I will give credit were credit is due for sure.

Thank you,
Message: Posted by: Eric Jones (Aug 7, 2008 11:01AM)
On 2008-08-07 11:13, Blake Douglass wrote:
If I am not mistaken both of these moves are unoriginal. The change belongs to our own Café member Eric Jones, and the switch dates back to the 70's, I will find the exact name of it. As far as I am concerned the only original thing here is the new names of these old moves.
Thanks for having my back on this Blake, but my "E.C.H.A.S.Z." Change came about after misreading the way I believed Doc described a bonus handling in the ECSS 1 manuscript. When I hung out with him again, I showed him what I was working on to see how close I came to what he published, I was told that what I was doing was waaaaaay off from what he had in mind. He actually enjoyed my version and asked if he could publish it in a manuscript. How could I say no??? It's still his move.....lol

Doc, I've got to get a copy of this from you man!!!! That switch is friggin' sick!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Blake Douglass (Aug 11, 2008 12:52AM)
Hey Doc and Eric sorry for the confusion. Im making calls tomorrow in reference to the source of the change. I apologize if I came off as hostile, but I am so tired of seeing stolen material rereleased under new name. Im not saying that's what has happened here, but when ever I get the slightest feeling that something has been discredited I am all over it. So again sorry for any hostility that may have been percieved, and I will post the source of the switch soon.
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 11, 2008 09:57AM)
No problem at all Blake, nothing precieved. I, like yourself, want to make sure that credits are correct. I have researched the Groove Electric Switch and have not been able to find a reference. This switch has been in the hands of some of the top cardmen in the world and I or them have not found anything that is like it. This is not saying that something like it is not out there, but I have done quite a bit of homework on it. Please let me know what you find.

Message: Posted by: Clark (Aug 12, 2008 06:36PM)
Kick ass switch Doc, took me in completely. Wonderful idea.

Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 12, 2008 10:49PM)
Thanks Clark, glad you liked it.

I have had an incredible response to The Cards Remain the Same manuscript, thank you very much for those that have ordered it.

I wanted to give a quick update, if anyone is still interested in the E Book version of the Cards Remain the Same you have until Monday 8/18 at 11:59 est. time. I will then remove the E Book from purchase. As it states on my website, it was only for a limited time. However, you can still get a copy of the E Book version, it will now be included on the CD ROM that contains the video files. All the orders that were placed since this past Friday and all future orders will contain the E Book on the disc.

I have had so many requests to have it on the disc so far I wanted to make it as easy as possible.

For those that have already ordered the soft copy and you wish to have a copy of the E Book I will be happy to email it to you, free of charge, just drop me an email and I will check it with my records and send it out. (Please allow 24 hours for E Book to arrive).

Once again thanks very much to all that have ordered, I hope that you are enjoying it.

Doc Docherty

PS. H&R Magic Books will also be carrying the manuscript and should have in stock soon.
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 15, 2008 09:06AM)
Only 3 days left on the option to order the E Book version of The Cards Remain the Same.

Get it here http://www.DocDocherty.com


Message: Posted by: Eric Jones (Aug 24, 2008 04:34PM)
I've spent the past couple of weeks working diligently with Groove Electric. I had some difficulty with the move because A) I only pose as a card guy and B) I'm left handed. But I've got to say that this move is a killer switch. I sat down and worked through all the handlings and have to say that the sandwich is my favorite. All the actions are motivated, the magic is beautiful and the methods made me smile to myself.

If you haven't already gotten a copy, I'd highly recommend you doing so. This is Ray Kosby quality magic ladies and gentleman. Your fingers will thank you for giving them a work out.
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Sep 13, 2008 10:51AM)

Thanks for the kind words man! Hope to see you in Charlotte in a couple of weeks for the CCC.

I am glad to hear that since your left handed that you learned it. For those that have messed with the move something that I did not include in the manuscript is that you can use it as a deadly force! Just get the force card on the bottom and swing cut and set the card up for the switch, followed by a fan. Let the spectator touch any card in the fan and up jog it. (Make sure that its below the set card). Perform the switch and set the deck down, the force card is now out jogged from the pack.

For those that are having trouble with it shoot me a PM and I will help you out.
If you have not picked this manuscript up yet go to http://www.DocDocherty.com and start Groovin!

Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Oct 22, 2008 07:44AM)
Make sure to check out the new and improved website, http://www.DocDocherty.com

You can find a review of The Cards Remain the Same by Jon Racherbaumer, as well as new pricing on the E Book and a specially priced E Book that will teach you just the Groove Electric switch that is Economically Unchallenged! Read and see all about it here, http://www.DocDocherty.com


Message: Posted by: flourishczar (Aug 3, 2009 03:35PM)
I bought the download from vanishingmagicinc as well as your book. (I never buy downloadables I am a "bookthumper" but I had to begin to work on the move so when the book came I would be in a better position to start on the material) I am really happy with the switch!!! It's fun to do, and I think this will really change the way a lot of my current tricks go. I have been doing cardwork for 13 years now, and while I am not a preformer I do take it seriously and love learning new interesting moves. I am awaiting your book, should be in the mail today, and I am so excited about it. The move was more difficult than I thought it was going to be. I figured once I learned the placement of the cards it was going to be easy....but it didn't work 100% of the time for me. I had to rewatch the video and see where my fingers go, how the fan should be, and CLEARLY understand everything from a conceptual level. (that's how I learn) but once I did that I really got it and now it's a matter of practice and muscle memorey. I really like your "all around square up" I think that alone is worth the price of the downloadable and/or book.
You know this is just FRESH thinking as far as I am concerned and it's really great. I haven't been excited about a move like this in a long time. The ideas for tricks are swarming in my head. The color change too is great. Looks very clean, and it's so bloody easy. Honestly it had me fooled when I saw how it was done, I said aloud, "That's it!?!?" LOL Good work on this manuscript, even though I haven't read through it yet, and thanks for not keeping this a secret Doc, I hate the guys that have a great contribution to magic but don't share it for "ego" related reasons. If you ever come out with more material I am deffinatly on board! Thanks again!!!
Message: Posted by: Doc Docherty (Aug 12, 2009 08:44AM)
I am so glad you enjoyed it. You are not the only one that has liked the DASSUP, the all around square up. This move alone has so so many applications that it will fit right in.