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Topic: Marked deck
Message: Posted by: Donnie Buckley (Sep 16, 2008 03:23PM)
I used to have a deck that contained white letters next to the angel on the bike that translated into the value and suit of the card for really quick and deceptive markings. I realize one could make these themselves with rub on transfers, if I could find transfers this color and size.
Q: Does anyone know the name or manufacturer of this deck or where the transfers can be found for sale.

Message: Posted by: Donal Chayce (Sep 16, 2008 05:41PM)
It's the Ted Lesley deck. You can get the deck already made up, or get the transfers and make your own. There are several threads about it here on the MC; use the "Search" function and you'll find 'em.
Message: Posted by: jkvand (Sep 16, 2008 08:32PM)
The transfers are produced by Martin Breese, and are available at some magic shops. I get mine from the Cuckoo's Nest in Pittsburgh.
Message: Posted by: Donnie Buckley (Sep 16, 2008 11:09PM)
Thank you gentlemen.
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Sep 17, 2008 10:07AM)
One thing to keep in mind with that style deck is that you need a full view of the card back and that marking system is not as subtle as others.

If that is a concern, check out the ULTIMATE MARKED DECK. Very subtle, only need corner peek and it is not very noticable in a riffle test.

Boris Wild's deck is also nice in that you only need a side view - not as riffle proof however.
Message: Posted by: chias (Sep 17, 2008 05:14PM)
[quote]If that is a concern, check out the ULTIMATE MARKED DECK. Very subtle, only need corner peek and it is not very noticable in a riffle test. [/quote]
Hey Mark, can the cards be identified from any corners?
Message: Posted by: flekka (Sep 17, 2008 05:37PM)
Top left + bottom right corners...
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Sep 21, 2008 07:48PM)
As Flekka mentioned, you read the top left or bottom right corner.

The nice thing is you can get a full read on a typical fan!

The marking is very discreet.
Message: Posted by: Koolmagic114 (Sep 21, 2008 07:51PM)
In some cases you can get the transfers from the better art supply stores. I am not talking about a Michael's or AC Moore.. but a real art supply store. In the more retail style stores it seems they do not carry the smaller sizes int he transfers.

I believe in Ted Lesly's book PARAMIRACLES he states using a pt 6 size in white transfer letters.

Message: Posted by: Joshua Lozoff (Sep 23, 2008 03:12PM)
I believe the Pro-M may be the one you're looking for. Pretty bold, but can be read at much further a distance than the Ultimate Marked Deck. I have used it in close-up for years and never been detected (that I know of...) I would take it over the Ultimate Marked Deck any day.
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Sep 23, 2008 07:42PM)
If you are looking to read marks from a distance...stick with Juice or Luminous technology for marked cards.
Message: Posted by: Andy Moss (Sep 24, 2008 09:17AM)
I would agree with expert magician. Nothing can beat a subtly juice marked deck of cards. With such a deck one can relax and sink back into a chair whilst reading the top card on the tabled deck a few feet away. :) I have managed to hand mark a red Bee deck for suit and for value. I sometimes have fun placing the deck in Aronson stack order with a short end scallop for the top card JS so that I can cut it back to the top after a purposefully messy false haymow shuffle. I then make several false cuts which retain the stack order.

Juicing does however take time and patience to get it 'just right'.The marks can -with practice- be read reliably and properly juiced cards can be closely examined in the hand by a lay person and it will always be the case that absolutely nothing will be found.