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Topic: Mask Magician Exposes Patented Gamalo Levitation
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 19, 2008 12:30PM)
I own this illusion and know it is patented:

Publication Number: 04244566 - Molovinsky; Gale ~ LEVITATION DEVICE - Issued: January 13, 1981 See: Secret Sessions [url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=168338&forum=37]Patents[/url]

Can the Mask Magician legally do this?
It is the exact design and equipment I have.
Message: Posted by: Magicque (Nov 19, 2008 12:38PM)
Dennis, sue the ***...
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 19, 2008 12:51PM)
I don't own the patent, Gale does, it would have to come from him!

Gale Molovinsky is a lawyer! He should know the legalities of this.

His sales would drop and he should sue for all the advertising he has done, and potential loss of income, as well as damages.

It is the first illusion that the Mask Magician has done where I know it falls under existing patents.

It would be nice to see Fox pay for exposure ($100) per person who saw that illusion. It's less than what the plans would have cost.
Message: Posted by: Magicque (Nov 19, 2008 12:59PM)
Dennis, did he show it last Monday?

Posted: Nov 19, 2008 2:00pm
I forgot to mention that I hate him SO MUCH...If anyone has the chance to meet him in person, beat him up! Everybody here will help you pay your court fees...
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Nov 19, 2008 01:07PM)
Wow Dennis, You and this guy too...


http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=285030&forum=62&2
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 19, 2008 01:13PM)
Magicque,

It was Monday's Nov 17th, 2008 show.

So far the Masked Magician has exposed my Twister, My Zombie, My Sword Suspension, and now my Gamolo Levitation.

He has not exposed my Hippy Hop Rabbits yet!
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Nov 19, 2008 01:18PM)
:sarcastic:
Gee, but exposure doesn't hurt anyone...
:sarcastic:
Message: Posted by: Skip Way (Nov 19, 2008 01:21PM)
Dennis, patents are public record. As I understand it, once an item is patented anyone can legally request a complete set of design specs. That's one of the reasons that products like Coca Cola and KFC's recipe have never been patented. However crude and distasteful, exposing the design on national TV is merely an extension of that public availability. I doubt that there's a legal resolution here.

However, I do find value in Magicque's suggestion.
Message: Posted by: Big Daddy Cool (Nov 19, 2008 02:09PM)
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On 2008-11-19 14:13, Dennis Michael wrote:
Magicque,

It was Monday's Nov 17th, 2008 show.

So far the Masked Magician has exposed my Twister, My Zombie, My Sword Suspension, and now my Gamolo Levitation.

He has not exposed my Hippy Hop Rabbits yet!
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Warning! I'm gonna *piss off* a lot of people with my reply. You've been warned...

I've been asking a lot of people this question - why do all illusionists seem to do the same illusions? I've been watching video and as far as I can tell, the men working the machines are interchangeable since the tricks are the same.

So if this show forces magicians to start doing some original - truly original - material then I think it is a good thing. I mean if I see one more generic magician perform the same set - Fire Cage, Sword Basket/Origami, Twister/Cube Zag/Zig Zag, shadow box, snowstorm, etc... I swear I will puke! I mean come on and show SOME creativity! If this show forces that, then it is very good for magic, and I support the Val's efforts.

Are you mad yet?

Get ready...

And just cause the tricks are exposed does not mean you can't perform them any more. The magic doesn't happen in the box or on the table. It happens in the hearts and minds of the audience. Hate to tell you, but that means that the tricks will never create magic. Magic is an organic result of the relationship between the character and the audience! That being the truth, even if the Twister is revealed you can still perform it, because your original creative presentation will override the mechanical secrets. What? You don't have an original creative presentation? Then, yeah you're screwed.

Mad yet?

Here we go...

This is another reason that magic is dwindling in popularity in Vegas. Magicians are interchangeable since the tricks are the same. I mean who cares? Really?

Well I care. I don't care about the tricks. I care about the performance. About the perception of the audience. I care about creating such original creative magic that it doesn't matter if the secret is known or not, the audience is still captivated by it.

Boys, it is time to face the music and re-examine what we do and why. I know I'll get flamed. I know I've just made enemies. But it needs to be said. Long live the Masked Magician!
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Nov 19, 2008 02:15PM)
Everybody sing now -

John and Val sitting in a tree. K-i-s-s-i-n-g. First comes love, then comes marriage...then comes John with the baby carriage!
Message: Posted by: Big Daddy Cool (Nov 19, 2008 02:41PM)
Where's the Tylenol?
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Nov 19, 2008 02:42PM)
Big Daddy Cool,
Looks like we're both gonna burn. I could not agree with you more.
Message: Posted by: Big Daddy Cool (Nov 19, 2008 02:47PM)
Burn baby, burn!
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Nov 19, 2008 02:47PM)
Me too...I love exposure...love controversy! And anybody who says otherwise is itching for a fight! What really upsets me is that I wasn't asked to do it first!

Anybody wanna know the secret to the USG? Just DP 10 silver dollars and produce them one at a time!


hey now...
Message: Posted by: Donal Chayce (Nov 19, 2008 03:38PM)
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On 2008-11-19 15:47, Justin Style wrote:
Me too...I love exposure...What really upsets me is that I wasn't asked to do it first!
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Justin, based on the reports I got, the last time "exposure" was requested of you, paramedics had to revive everyone in the first three rows. The rest of the audience fled into the street.

:rotf:
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Nov 19, 2008 03:39PM)
I can't talk about that...yet!
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Nov 19, 2008 03:45PM)
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On 2008-11-19 15:47, Justin Style wrote:
Anybody wanna know the secret to the USG? Just DP 10 silver dollars and produce them one at a time!
[/quote]

Excellent! Now that I have the secret to USG I'm going to change it to a dozen silvers, re-name it 'ULTIMATE AGENT GRIP' and have it in PDF form by morning. Stay tuned for the news letter...hey now!
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