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Topic: Two Cup Routine, with a British Accent
Message: Posted by: kentfgunn (Nov 23, 2008 12:46PM)
Ok, ok, I don't really spend all my time looking for cups and balls routines that stand out from the crowd.

This two cup routine is very, very different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0iejgTYsaQ

Take a look. I think this routine is very entertaining.
Message: Posted by: Keith Mitchell (Nov 23, 2008 12:55PM)
It was fun to watch, a lot of action in such a short amount of time. There were certain moves that I knew how they were done only because I have experience with C&B, but would a lay person be fooled by this routine?

Thanks for sharing that link, let's see some more.

Have fun folks!
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Nov 23, 2008 01:20PM)
I think a lay person would be quite fooled by this routine. Interesting in that it seems he uses two co*b* cups. Makes for some really nice moments. I did note that he placed the cups down a bit *too* firmly (too obviously) a couple of times. This will go past most lay persons, but not all, so it is something to work on.
Message: Posted by: Josh the Superfluous (Nov 23, 2008 02:18PM)
Good ideas, and use of props. So-so execution. I like the reveal when he picks up the cup and sets it down immediately, and then the ball appears. I would have re-shot the video based on that alone. The final loads out of one cup seemed lopsided to me. At the start he taps the cups up and down, inverted a couple of times. Clearly a case of running when not being chased.

For only watching it once, I saw a lot of problems. I'm glad you posted it though, Kent.
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Nov 23, 2008 02:39PM)
Thanks for sharing, Kent. I would say this is good material for discussion.
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Nov 23, 2008 02:43PM)
Some cool ideas there!
Thanks KG!
Message: Posted by: daviaac (Nov 23, 2008 03:00PM)
I agree with what has been mentioned so far I'm not fussed on the final loads as I would prefer one of each cup and maybe even a third load from one of the cups it would definately fit the line that he uses at the end better " if you like those two you will go mad over the third...".

other than that some very interesting ideas put together.i don't use a certain cup he was using (in cups and balls) but after seeing this and some other routines recently I may incorporate one into my routine.

luke
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Nov 23, 2008 03:38PM)
There were some very nice ideas there. Some of the patter is from Paul Daniels' Chop cup routine.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 23, 2008 07:51PM)
Yes.. much like a two cup Paul Daniels Chop Cup... nice to see, thanks KFG.
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Nov 24, 2008 12:17AM)
The guy even sounds kinda like PD slowed down a notch or 2!
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 24, 2008 01:00AM)
Here's what a pro comedy juggler/mage does with cups...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvc68cKILxg&feature=related

Posted: Nov 24, 2008 2:10am
VERY DIFFERENT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdRPfRfJes&feature=related

Hmmmm... thumbholes in back of cups?
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Nov 24, 2008 03:16AM)
Charlie Frye is AMAZING!
Message: Posted by: Keith Mitchell (Nov 24, 2008 09:35AM)
Thanks Pete for sharing those two vids, I was also glad to discover a new Ball & Vase routine done amazingly by Charlie Frye. Never saw a Ball Vase so big before or done the way he did it. Very happy to have seen that.

Charlie Frye C&B routine was fun to watch even without knowing what he was saying, but I could tell that his patter was for the sake of the Magic. The Charlie Frye routine like many others makes me wish I could hear.

The second C&B routine was another first for me, seeing a new kind of prop being used for the first time. Wonder where I could get those cups from??

Have fun folks!
Message: Posted by: Robert Kohler (Nov 24, 2008 11:29AM)
Where has this guy been? I've never heard of him - extremely entertaining........
And as for the posted topic - I get squeamish when I see the up/down move revealing the ball - it's just too risky for me, and it takes some of the wonder away from the C&B. It's a case of being too direct.........
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 24, 2008 11:48AM)
Charlie Frye is a top class comedy juggler. Lives in Las Vegas. And has run ads in Genii for his DVDs, which include lots of great and funny comedy magic. He is extremely talented and little known in the magic community.

Posted: Nov 24, 2008 1:02pm
More FRYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY_1812N7M0
Message: Posted by: Scott M (Nov 24, 2008 12:13PM)
His billiard ball routine is great from Vol. 1

He is very talented and from what I hear a great guy.

-Scott M
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Nov 24, 2008 12:45PM)
Great clips Pete - thanks for sharing. Charlie has great timing.
Message: Posted by: Lawrence O (Nov 24, 2008 07:28PM)
Charlie Frye has three DVDs with superbly original ideas. He is a clown (in the most noble sense of the word) he can juggle and do all kinds of things besides magic. A very impressive entertainer.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Nov 25, 2008 06:49PM)
He's one of the most entertaining guys I've ever seen. And one of the nicest guys I've ever met.
When I was in Vegas at LVMI he was at a table blowing away all the sleight-of-hand masters with his card work (nothing that you'd see on his DVDs). When I realized who it was I went up and introduced myself and we chatted briefly about George Carl, I think.

When I got back home after the convention I had an email waiting from him saying it was nice to meet me, etc.

I never even told him my email address, or swapped business cards.

That's Charlie for you!
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 26, 2008 01:40AM)
Any George Carl fan is a friend of mine. Those of you tht don't know George Carl, search him on You Tube to see one of the greatest acts in show business history.

Posted: Nov 26, 2008 2:45am
Here's just one clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEHCE-vLh5U&NR=1
Message: Posted by: Tom Fenton (Nov 26, 2008 12:12PM)
George Carl was the funniest man I have ever seen.

Over here in the UK he was quite often on the bill at The Royal Variety Show.
Each time he performed there, he stole the show.
Message: Posted by: Magnalucius (Nov 27, 2008 08:18AM)
When I saw Mr. Frye the first time, in his Eccentricks DVDs, I was amazed of how funny a juggler can be. An excelent entertainer, performer and magician... well, the guy is complete. I like to know wich cups he uses. Anybody can tell me (well, write, I know) wich cups are? They are beautiful.

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On 2008-11-24 02:10, Pete Biro wrote:
VERY DIFFERENT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdRPfRfJes&feature=related

Hmmmm... thumbholes in back of cups?
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... how boring... ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Yes, very, very, VERY different.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Nov 27, 2008 09:44AM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-24 02:10, Pete Biro wrote:
VERY DIFFERENT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdRPfRfJes&feature=related

Hmmmm... thumbholes in back of cups?
[/quote]

Nope. Slightly different system. Close, though. Think lever.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 27, 2008 11:49AM)
Yah, there is a gaffe like that described in one of Eddie Joseph's books on the cups. I tried to talk Johnson Products into making a set of 'accesory' gaffes to go along with their cups sets, many of which are described by Joseph. But they weren't interested.