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Topic: Silk Productions
Message: Posted by: mleskanic (Jan 6, 2009 08:44PM)
Hi,

I am currently working on a routine that involves the production of a silk. I was wondering if anyone knew of a good way to produce a silk. I've tried the way in Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic where the silk is rolled up and somehow tucked in, but this just isn't working for me. I am also trying to find a way to steal the silk. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Matt
Message: Posted by: indomagic (Jan 6, 2009 08:59PM)
Matt

You have to check the ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SILK MAGIC. There are many method for producing a silk explain there.
Message: Posted by: amazenyou (Jan 6, 2009 09:40PM)
Also, Lybrary has Hugard's "Silken Sorcery" for download, just 5 bucks.


C
Message: Posted by: mleskanic (Jan 7, 2009 07:44AM)
Thanks a lot for the help, I'll be sure to check those sources.

Matt
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Jan 7, 2009 02:22PM)
Use a ball type dropper under your coat, one one side.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Anatole (Jan 10, 2009 07:53PM)
My favorite silk production is the "Flash" Silk Production on page 366 of Tarbell, Volume 4. I do a variation of that production in my Third Millennium Silks routine that you can view at
http://members.cavtel.net/parmenides/21stcentury.mov

I think Channing Pollock sometimes used a single silk production based on a Stillwell Ball subtlety. I don't think he used it in the _European Nights_ clip, but as I recall he used it in his act on Hollywood Palace back in the late 60's or early 70's. If you know what a Stillwell Ball is, you'll understand how a "Stillwell Silk" can be used for a very visual production of a silk.

----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
Message: Posted by: jskalon (Jan 17, 2009 10:22AM)
Very nice Amado!
Message: Posted by: Robert Kohler (Jan 19, 2009 05:10PM)
The flash silk made by Werry is also good - an unexpected jump out of your pocket....
Message: Posted by: Anatole (Jan 21, 2009 06:43AM)
I posted earlier a reference to Channing Pollock using a modified Stillwell ball technique for a barehand silk production. As the cobwebs cleared from my mind, I remembered that he used that method in the Daniel Boone TV show episode "Seminole Territory," where Pollock plays a traveling magician who uses his magic skills to convince the Seminole Indians that he has real magic powers. Interestingly, I believe it was this episode of Daniel Boone that captured Lance Burton's imagination as a boy in Kentucky and led him to become a magician. Unless I'm mistaken, the young Lance thought the card manipulations in that episode were done using the black art principle. Trivia note: Also appearing in that Daniel Boone episode was an actor named Leonard Nimoy before he became better known for his role as Mr. Spock in _Star Trek_.

----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
Message: Posted by: DanielCoyne (Jan 27, 2009 02:45PM)
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On 2009-01-06 22:40, amazenyou wrote:
Also, Lybrary has Hugard's "Silken Sorcery" for download, just 5 bucks.
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I just bought Hugard's "Silken Sorcery," and it's been reduced to $3. I have a little trouble deciphering which effects or techniques are worth the trouble to make and learn. (I've been spoiled by richly illustrated books and DVDs.)

But still...$3? How can you lose?

Thanks for introducing me to that site. I look forward to browsing around at what else is available.

-Daniel
Message: Posted by: magicians (Jan 27, 2009 06:35PM)
I love and perform Howie Schwartzman's opening silk production. Shows his hands empty, claps his hand and there is a silk between his two hands.
Message: Posted by: DanielCoyne (Jan 28, 2009 12:47AM)
Ian,

Where we can see a video of this production? Better yet, how do we learn it?

-Dan
Message: Posted by: magicians (Jan 28, 2009 09:51PM)
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On 2009-01-28 01:47, DanielCoyne wrote:
Ian,

Where we can see a video of this production? Better yet, how do we learn it?

-Dan
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Checkout the pm
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (May 19, 2009 08:53PM)
Magic Ian,

Will you be doing this at the lecture in August at FAB in Colon, MI?

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Irishghost (May 21, 2009 10:58AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-27 19:35, magicians wrote:
I love and perform Howie Schwartzman's opening silk production. Shows his hands empty, claps his hand and there is a silk between his two hands.
[/quote]

Sounds interesting, is the production published anywhere?
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (May 21, 2009 12:39PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-27 19:35, magicians wrote:
I love and perform Howie Schwartzman's opening silk production. Shows his hands empty, claps his hand and there is a silk between his two hands.
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Reads like Marconick's 1970 "Production of a Silk" from "Marconick Magic Nr.2." Are they related?
Message: Posted by: magicians (May 21, 2009 01:41PM)
This is Howie Schwartzman's lecture and is written in his notes. I just saw Jeff McBride do a version of it in his lecture as well. Jeff's version has the silk fly to his hand in a flury of mylar confetti. Based on both of those techniques, I wrote a variation of this in Linking Ring Parade to come out in June's issue of Linking Ring. In that article, I give credit to both artists and then give my variation. In mine, I do the production, except the silk is Dushek's Walting Mathilda.
Message: Posted by: Regan (May 22, 2009 09:20PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-21 07:43, Anatole wrote:
I posted earlier a reference to Channing Pollock using a modified Stillwell ball technique for a barehand silk production. As the cobwebs cleared from my mind, I remembered that he used that method in the Daniel Boone TV show episode "Seminole Territory," where Pollock plays a traveling magician who uses his magic skills to convince the Seminole Indians that he has real magic powers. Interestingly, I believe it was this episode of Daniel Boone that captured Lance Burton's imagination as a boy in Kentucky and led him to become a magician. Unless I'm mistaken, the young Lance thought the card manipulations in that episode were done using the black art principle. Trivia note: Also appearing in that Daniel Boone episode was an actor named Leonard Nimoy before he became better known for his role as Mr. Spock in _Star Trek_.

----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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I would love to see that episode. I do not think Daniel Boone airs in my area, and it has been a loooooong time since I have seen an episode.

Didn't Channing guest star on several other tv shows? I was thinking Bonanza was one of them??? I'm sure there are others. I would love to see some of his acting performances. Do you know where could I get a list of shows he played in?

Ian, I will be looking forward to the June issue of The Linking Ring!!!

Regan
Message: Posted by: magicians (May 22, 2009 09:39PM)
[quote]

Ian, I will be looking forward to the June issue of The Linking Ring!!!

Regan
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The effects were edited, but they should be fun.
Silks, rope, gimmicks, balloons
Message: Posted by: Regan (May 23, 2009 06:15AM)
[quote]
On 2009-05-22 22:39, magicians wrote:
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Ian, I will be looking forward to the June issue of The Linking Ring!!!

Regan
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The effects were edited, but they should be fun.
Silks, rope, gimmicks, balloons
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Fun indeed!

Regan
Message: Posted by: magicians (May 23, 2009 06:31AM)
[quote]
On 2009-05-19 21:53, Bob Sanders wrote:
Magic Ian,

Will you be doing this at the lecture in August at FAB in Colon, MI?

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
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Howie did this in his lecture, therefore it is appropriate to perform. I reference it in my Parade in order to do the "outdone" effect of the move. This will not, however, be in the lecture but I can perform it for you.
I am wondering if the Wilson method is the same as Shwartzman's?
In the June parade, I have a transition silk production. One-handed knotted silk on a knotted rope.
Message: Posted by: Regan (May 26, 2009 07:43AM)
[quote]
On 2009-05-22 22:20, Regan wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-01-21 07:43, Anatole wrote:
I posted earlier a reference to Channing Pollock using a modified Stillwell ball technique for a barehand silk production. As the cobwebs cleared from my mind, I remembered that he used that method in the Daniel Boone TV show episode "Seminole Territory," where Pollock plays a traveling magician who uses his magic skills to convince the Seminole Indians that he has real magic powers. Interestingly, I believe it was this episode of Daniel Boone that captured Lance Burton's imagination as a boy in Kentucky and led him to become a magician. Unless I'm mistaken, the young Lance thought the card manipulations in that episode were done using the black art principle. Trivia note: Also appearing in that Daniel Boone episode was an actor named Leonard Nimoy before he became better known for his role as Mr. Spock in _Star Trek_.

----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
[/quote]

I would love to see that episode. I do not think Daniel Boone airs in my area, and it has been a loooooong time since I have seen an episode.

Didn't Channing guest star on several other tv shows? I was thinking Bonanza was one of them??? I'm sure there are others. I would love to see some of his acting performances. Do you know where could I get a list of shows he played in?

Ian, I will be looking forward to the June issue of The Linking Ring!!!

Regan
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I don't want to get off topic, but I thought you all may be interested. I just found out that an upcoming episode of The Beverly Hillbilly's will have Channing Pollock as a cast member. The episode is called, "Garden Party", and it is supposed to air next week on TV Land. (Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 7:30 P.M & Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 1:30 P.M.) I supposed those times are E.S.T., but I am not 100% sure. The show was filmed in 1963.

I'm not sure Channing will do any magic on the show, but I still hope to watch. He plays "Young Man-Party Guest" Murray Pollock.

Also in that same episode is a beautiful young actress named Sharon Tate, who was later a victim of the infamous Charles Manson murders. She was cast as the "Young Woman-Party Guest", but she was not given a name.

And by the way, Channing did play on an episode of Bonanza in 1971. The title is, "Easy Come, Easy Go". He was cast as "Carter". Again, I don't know if he does any magic in the show, but from the title I wouldn't doubt it. It is an episode about gambling, where the Ponderosa is turned into a casino.

He also played as "Kit Carson" in one episode of the tv series, "The Great Adventure". Channing played in several other tv specials, along with several other shows and European films.

Regan