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Topic: Squeeze Play
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Jan 29, 2009 04:57PM)
Did Tenyo do Squeeze Play? I liked that effect, but was always disappointed that it looked cheap. I always wished they make it look like something. Maybe two coasters and a piece of candy from a wrapper or something.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 29, 2009 08:46PM)
Yes, Tenyo did release [b]Squeeze Play[/b] (T- 087) in 1977 - it was invented by [b]Shigeru Sugawara[/b] and is a GREAT trick. :)

Perhaps one day we will issue a Elite version! :bwink:
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Jan 29, 2009 09:45PM)
This was my first TENYO trick, I bought it around 1978 (second hand). I was just a kid.
I remember that I showed Squeeze Play for the kids on my street, they talked a lot of me. Mats - the kid with miracle hands. Nice memories.

If yo make an Elite version in the future, make a new glass that looks "normal", I think that will improve that effect a lot.
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Jan 30, 2009 09:45AM)
I was thinking of painting the ďthingĒ (I donít know what to call that pink item) all pink and put it into a wrapper and say itís candy. I painted my disks a metallic color, but it lost its slickness. Maybe in the Elite version you can make it look like something normal like a coaster.

I like the effect itís a fooler. I guess Mark Wilson did too because he endorsed it at the time.
Message: Posted by: Brad Burt (Feb 2, 2009 07:10PM)
Squeeze Play is one of the most amazing magic tricks that Tenyo released. Under rated by many because it actually took some skill to perform. Wonderful effect. Best,
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Feb 4, 2009 10:34AM)
As Steve said, perhaps one day we will release an Elite version. One of the advantages we have in producing the Elite editions, is that we will not be putting on 'made by Tenyo' or other idenifications that are often moldedn into the plastic original Tenyo tricks. And if I recall Squeeze play had Tenyo all over it. So if we do decide to do an elite version the props will not contain any identification on the parts that my suggest it is a toy, which will be welcomed by those who wish to perform the prop in a more professional application.

Peter.
Message: Posted by: leapinglizards (Feb 4, 2009 04:47PM)
I have always thought the OBVIOUS thing to do (and truth be told made my own set years ago when I used this trick) was to make it with dice instead of the checker, uh cylindar, uh... whatever the pink thing was!
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Feb 4, 2009 05:19PM)
Brilliant. Why didn't I think of it. I guess one needs to be made for it, but maybe the Elite one will.
Message: Posted by: skc417 (Feb 5, 2009 02:29AM)
Pink thing? The version I have is like a red cylinder with white bands/edges around it.

I'm not sure how this could be made into an elite version, as you would all know the discs and the slick texture of it contributed to the method.

So far it seems the elite props are made from aluminium, since discs of aluminium would not flex the way plastic does the material choice would have to be further investigated.
Message: Posted by: wulfiesmith (Feb 8, 2009 01:40PM)
The Tenyo team are fantastic creative thinkers ... second to none.
Perhaps it is time they marketed some of their products for the professional performer exclusively. And by that, I mean the product quality.
Sometimes, I feel, they do themselves an injustice producing a gem of an idea, but cut themselves short by producing it in plastic. Sorry guys. No disrespect.
If I could produce such items and in plastic, I would be more than happy. But I feel you are shortchanging yourselves, that's all!

Best wishes to the Tenyo crew ...
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Feb 11, 2009 12:34PM)
Agreed. [i]Squeeze Play [/i] is a great trick, but once you bring out the plastic disks with "Squeeze Play" written on it, it looks like a toy. The effect is great! Someone suggested a die. Good idea. Use the Vegas looking ones, the red clear kind. The disc can still be plastic, but can be coasters to put drinks on. Kind of something that would be at a craps table.

I like the hole in the disk. But an idea I was playing with was to put the disk with the hole on the bottom. Then use the premise that the cylinder or die or whatever will "squeeze" through it. Just a thought.
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Feb 13, 2009 02:36PM)
For those of us who remember, Squeeze Play was one of the items that was supposed to be in the Doug Henning magic set. The last set of SP that I had was marked as such, too. Blue "coasters" and the little cylinder was red with beige/tan bands.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Feb 20, 2009 12:06AM)
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On 2009-01-29 22:45, Kjellstrom wrote:
This was my first TENYO trick, I bought it around 1978 (second hand). I was just a kid.
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Same here. It gives me the chills thinking way back to those early days.
Message: Posted by: NYCJoePitt (Feb 20, 2009 02:53PM)
Squeeze Play!!!

My all time favorite Tenyo Product. This would be a definite buy for me if the Elite group would decide to take it on. I remember how this effect used to fool just about everybody. It was a crowd pleaser for sure :)
Message: Posted by: bsears (Feb 24, 2009 09:59PM)
We used to sell this trick at Carew Tower Magic shop here in Cincinnati. It was fun to watch demonstrated because it really took a "knack" or feel to do, and half the time the puck would go shooting to the other end of the room at high velocity. Funny stuff! I think I maybe sold one in five years of demonstrating it, but when you nail it, it looks great.

I'd like to see it made with dice (as previously mentioned) and two "coasters" that could be used with any rocks or pint glass. It'd be a great bar trick!
Message: Posted by: Jamie_H (May 17, 2009 11:26PM)
After a long magic hiatus, I dug out my close up box tonight...which included the squeeze play with blue discs and red puck thingie. I couldn't get it to work...seemed to not be slick enough...maybe I am just rusty..lol
Message: Posted by: Jamie_H (Jun 7, 2009 07:20AM)
I was rusty,,its working now! LOL
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Jun 18, 2009 02:20AM)
Watch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMAxTGgh910
Message: Posted by: dragonash (Jul 11, 2009 08:44PM)
I am sure someone HAS made a dice version of squeeze play. it wasnt called that, of course.
I don't remember where I saw it and if I find it I doubt I'll remember I ever made this post.
sorry.
Message: Posted by: Turk (Aug 30, 2009 10:40AM)
While I like the concept of using a die (using ordinary objects), I'm envisioning that the "squareness" and the corner pointy edges might cause some inherent problems with the Squeeze Play methodology and/or the durability of the two discs. The roundness of the small cylinder made it "good to go" (and consistent in its "knackiness") anytime and from wherever it was situated between the two discs.

I just have a feeling that the consistency and smoothness of operation would be a variable (depending on whether of not you are squeezing on an edge or on a corner. I'm also concerned that the corners might cause damage (scratching, grooving or enhanced structural fatigue) to the two discs if said corners become the point of contact with the two discs.

But, that said, if the die would operate as smoothly and consistently as the cylinder and not cause damage to the two discs, I'd be all for using a die in place of the cylinder.

Just speculating like the rest of you; your mileage may vary. (grin)

Best,

Mike

P.S. FWIW, my two all-time favorite Tenyo products are Squeeze Play and Soft Coins.
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Nov 6, 2009 12:42PM)
There was an assembly-type effect using dice that used the squeeze play move as a vanish. I think it was Jay Sankey's routine published in Richard's Almanac. You can get small dice with corners that are sufficiently rounded for this. The Sankey routine used playing cards as the surfaces, but they were a bit weak.

Anyone up for a combination of Lubor Fiedler's "Shock Die" and Squeeze play? The "coasters" could be mirrored mylar, allowing you to do the spots effect, and then in the end, the die is squished.

What do you say, Steve, Fiedler worked with Tenyo quite a bit in the past....
Message: Posted by: MeetMagicMike (Nov 25, 2010 10:44PM)
Isn't that demo performed wrong? Shouldn't the disk be squeezed through the small hole? I clearly see the hole in the top disk.

Or maybe that is not the intended effect.
Message: Posted by: David Regal (Aug 2, 2011 10:47AM)
Someone did at one time sell a version of Squeeze Play made with dice and black disks. I bought one.
Message: Posted by: magicHart (Jul 19, 2012 12:29AM)
Gosh, I do remember this. Always thought it was very clever but, didn't use it much because it seemed kind of cheap.
I had forgotten all about it until this thread. Pretty sure it's packed away somewhere...we'll see!
Message: Posted by: Killertweety (Jul 19, 2012 05:27AM)
Add a drop of oil to one side of both plates and rub it with a tissue. Does wonders and makes the trick more reliable, especially with used/old plates.
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Jul 19, 2012 01:26PM)
I believe the version that David Regal mentioned above may be "Squeeze Away Die" made by Jack Miller (famous for making Hot Rod's and other paddle sticks)I just purchased this version in a group of used magic. Plates look similar to the Tenyo version but comes with beautifully gaffed dice instead of the traditonal checkers/disks. I also picked up the Deluxe Squeeze Play from Daytona Magic... nice looking props but not as smooth working as the original.

Killer, I actually find the plates on the Tenyo version almost too slippery. I hate to say it but I prefer the version made in China (still available) as the plates have a slightly rough texture so the disk does not move around as you are setting the trick up. Also because of the matte surface they do not show the scratches like the original Tenyo. It is a great little trick that is fun to practise and show.

John
Message: Posted by: Merc Man (Aug 19, 2012 08:33PM)
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On 2009-02-04 11:34, Peter Loughran wrote:
And if I recall Squeeze play had Tenyo all over it. So if we do decide to do an elite version the props will not contain any identification on the parts that my suggest it is a toy, which will be welcomed by those who wish to perform the prop in a more professional application.

Peter.
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Peter - I think you are getting confused with the later 'improved' Squeeze Play mate.

The first Squeeze Play's that I remember in the late 1970's had blank, blue disks. The little plug was (if memory serves me correctly) yellow one side, and luminous green on the other.

The later 'improved' version had (as you say) Tenyo plastered all over it. The 'improvement' was to the actual edging of the plug - it was smoother edged and less angular to make handling easier. The plug also had a colour change to accompany the re-design.

I think the new version hit the streets around 1981/82.

I'm no Tenyo Historian by any means - but I don't think I'm too far wrong on this one.
Message: Posted by: jcs013 (Sep 14, 2012 08:45PM)
Does the Doug Henning version of Squeeze Play come with the plastic glass?
Message: Posted by: J M Talbot (Sep 15, 2012 11:33AM)
Yes it does.
Message: Posted by: jcs013 (Sep 16, 2012 04:37PM)
Would there be any extra plastic 'Squeeze play' glasses out there? please send me a note if there are.

Thank you
Message: Posted by: wally (Oct 27, 2012 05:20PM)
I want one. please. uk.
Message: Posted by: wally (Nov 4, 2012 10:06AM)
Got it. practice practice practice,
Message: Posted by: tstark (Feb 1, 2013 12:20AM)
For those interested, the inspiration for Squeeze Play can be traced back to Ken Allen. Coincidentally speaking, according to an earlier post in this thread, Die-Namic by Ken Allen used dice. Later the effect was released as a ball and was made by UF Grant and called Lunaball. Neither effect used the Tenyo presentation with the platters which was an inspired way to cause the penetration. The Ken Allen effect used a coaster, but only one. The penetration was accomplished by a sleight and not momentum (I am purposely being vague so as not to reveal the method). The Grant effect used a cup in one version and a mason jar in another, which was also an inspired handling.
Message: Posted by: Richard Kaufman (Feb 21, 2014 12:05AM)
Shigeru Sugawara was not remotely influenced by Ken Allen or anyone else. "Squeeze Play" was a wholly original idea, and he first did it with dice
Message: Posted by: JollyGreenGiant (May 7, 2014 02:39AM)
This is one of the tricks that absolutely blew my mind the 1st time I saw it when I was a youngster. Wish I got that feeling more often. :)
Message: Posted by: Hookem (Jan 14, 2016 11:57PM)
Mark Wilson not only endorsed it, but my understanding is that he suggested the name.
Message: Posted by: WolfgangWollet (Apr 2, 2016 07:37PM)
Tricks CO. Of Japan released a similar effect called Space Dice. It used square partly transparent boards and a red dice and the glass was all clear. The method is different and personally I like the Tricks item better.