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Topic: Another Great Oil and Water Routine
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Feb 5, 2009 06:46PM)
Another great oil and water the “X” on VAL DEES by Scott Guinn
Scott Guinn has an excellent oil and water routine. It’s a three part routine and you can do any part separately or combine them. I like the first part where you show the red cards traveling to the black pack one by one and when you turn the pack over they all turn back to black very visual magic.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 7, 2009 06:39AM)
Hmm, this looks good but I have never heard of a Jordan Count.

http://www.scottfguinn.com/cardmagic.asp
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Feb 7, 2009 09:05AM)
In the routine Scott uses a Jordon Count best bet here is Jerry Mentzer's Counts, Cuts, Moves & Subtlety book a great book at a low price.Favorite dealer or Magic Methods ( http://www.magicmethodsonline.com )Jerry's site.Can be found in Card College V-2.
He also uses a Stanyon Count (Commonly called a 3
as 4 Elmsley Count). A little more explanition is given here in Secret Sessions
http://themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=127822&forum=37
Hope the link works.

These moves are easy and the routine is well worth it.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Feb 7, 2009 11:38AM)
Thanks Leo, although I am sure he teaches it in the download. I have a good O and W routine but uses the RS principle.
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Feb 8, 2009 09:13PM)
I am always happy to help anyone with learning my routines. If you need a move explained or have a question, just shoot me an email or PM.
Message: Posted by: swamy (Mar 12, 2009 11:02AM)
Oil and Water effect using Stipper cards makes the performance self working.
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Mar 12, 2009 04:09PM)
True enough, but alos doesn't allow anyone but you to touch the cards, and would not help much for some parts of my routine.
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Mar 12, 2009 05:43PM)
I know I like Oil and Water effects because they don't require a lot of heavy sleights just some false counts and add-ons.Might have something to do with starting in magic in the early seventies era of the Packet tricks.

But if R&S work for you that's cool.Wonder is this R&S trick something you made up or is it put out by someone else?
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Mar 13, 2009 05:37PM)
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On 2009-03-12 12:02, swamy wrote:
Oil and Water effect using Stipper cards makes the performance self working.
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If you can get around an action which looks like a pull-apart - congrats.
Message: Posted by: MagicbyCarlo (Mar 14, 2009 08:14PM)
I still think Anthony Owen's version is the most magical looking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQPUMCRALY
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Mar 14, 2009 10:17PM)
Anyone buy this one yet:" Sorted Affair - Sean Bogunia" looks pretty good.
Message: Posted by: ejohn (Mar 15, 2009 01:21PM)
I have. It is easy, looks like Owen's, and has the whole-deck kicker. Cards can not be handed out. John
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Mar 15, 2009 03:11PM)
Thanks for the reply

Best
Leo Jr
Message: Posted by: trainwing (Mar 16, 2009 11:05AM)
Guinn's effect is wonderful: I have it too. But I just thought I would point out an effect by Aldo Colombini called "Tossed Salad." It's on one of his DVD (everything from him costs $10). It's great in that it uses all ordinary cards which can be taken from any deck. You use more cards than the spectator expects so you can't hand them out immediately when when done, but by taking them from the deck and then putting them back casually when you're done and moving on to another effect, the spectator will never suspect "trick cards," which of course, they are not anyway.
Message: Posted by: Anthony Owen (Mar 16, 2009 12:46PM)
Thanks Carlo!

Best,

Anthony Owen
Message: Posted by: Leo Reynolds Jr (Mar 16, 2009 03:19PM)
Is that the one on Mr Colombini's Essential DVD It looks pretty good.
Trying to get Mr. Colombini to put out a DVD of just oil and water routines read somewhere he collects them.

Yes Mr. Owens Oil and Water looks great. Is that the same oil and water as in his book "Some Tricks" with looks like it worth buying?
Message: Posted by: Anthony Owen (Mar 17, 2009 03:27AM)
Hi Leo,

My new Ultimate Oil and Water DVD features the SOBW routine from my Some Tricks book and now unavailable Dynamic Walkaround DVD. However it also features several new handlings and improvements. One of these has never been explained in print or on video before and until now has only been taught to those who have attended my live lectures. Another of the improvements featured on the new DVD has never been released to anyone ever.

Thanks for your interest in my work.

Best,

Anthony
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Mar 17, 2009 03:36AM)
Aldo has a number of excellent routines in his book "What's Up Deck". My favorite uses only eight cards. Also, the "Oil and Water Rides Again" from Skinner's book is actually Aldo's routine. I explained the history behind that effect elswhere on The Café. That's a beautiful routine.

Mine was designed to be kind of a little card "act" all unto itself. It borrows heavily from other sources, which I credit in the instructions. I have another O&W routine in my upcoming book "A Little Something" which I hope to have on my site in the next week or so.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Mar 17, 2009 08:31AM)
Re:"Trying to get Mr. Colombini to put out a DVD of just oil and water routines read somewhere he collects them."

Try putting pressure on Jon Racherbaumer instead, I think the collection may be greater...

Paul.
Message: Posted by: edh (Mar 17, 2009 05:13PM)
Scott, I didn't see you mention C.O.W? Do you not like this effect anymore?
Message: Posted by: DomKabala (Mar 18, 2009 06:26AM)
I like Aldo's "Italian Dressing". I learned it form a link found on The Café...

Cardamagically,
Dom :) ;)
Message: Posted by: MagicbyCarlo (Mar 22, 2009 01:17PM)
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On 2009-03-17 04:27, Anthony Owen wrote:
Hi Leo,

My new Ultimate Oil and Water DVD features the SOBW routine from my Some Tricks book and now unavailable Dynamic Walkaround DVD. However it also features several new handlings and improvements. One of these has never been explained in print or on video before and until now has only been taught to those who have attended my live lectures. Another of the improvements featured on the new DVD has never been released to anyone ever.

Thanks for your interest in my work.

Best,

Anthony
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I am such a fan of this and have used a partial version to perform strolling where I do this in an audience member's hand. I haven't gotten the DVD yet though. I learned it from Some Tricks and Dynamic Walkaround.
Message: Posted by: Anthony Owen (Mar 22, 2009 02:05PM)
Hi Carlo,

It's great to hear that you've had fun and success with my routine. I too perform it on a spectator's hand which helps to make it even stronger.

Best,

Anthony
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Mar 22, 2009 08:22PM)
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On 2009-03-17 18:13, edh wrote:
Scott, I didn't see you mention C.O.W? Do you not like this effect anymore?
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Actually, I did mention it, ed, you just didn't catch it! ;) That's the one I referred to that is included in "A Little Something", to be released in the next few weeks.
Message: Posted by: edh (Mar 22, 2009 08:24PM)
Ahhhh...O.K sorry about that. :)