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Topic: Shigeo Takagi One Cup Routine
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Mar 10, 2009 04:15PM)
If you knows Shigeo's Magic, you know he use a Special Cup in his MARVELOUS rendition to a one cup routine! Are a Company that makes that special cup? I need to do by myself?
Thanks,
Hansel!
Message: Posted by: Jason Fleming (Mar 10, 2009 04:29PM)
RNT2 used to turn them from wood. One just sold on this board in the marketplace section.
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Mar 10, 2009 05:29PM)
[url=http://www.martinsmagic.com/?nd=full&key=3581&myaf=af_mm]The Rosewood one[/url] I bought from RNTII is a beauty
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Mar 10, 2009 05:29PM)
I am out of town for about 10 more days, when I get home I may have anotherTakagi cup forsale.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 10, 2009 06:04PM)
J.P. Jackson may have some soon.
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Mar 10, 2009 06:24PM)
Pete,
If you have more than one or don't find a buyer for the one, I'll be interested!

Mick
Message: Posted by: Scott M (Mar 10, 2009 08:41PM)
I got one from Jeff Busby years ago. Made by a wood turner named John Dahms. I still have the original instructions and even bought his book of excellent magic put out by Kaufman.

I have practiced with it maybe a dozen times and have never performed with it. It is a beauty though.

I got a couple of Mike Roger load balls and small base balls for it when I ordered it.

If you send me an offer I can't resist...I can let it go. It wasn't cheap. I have no pictures of it, sorry for that.

-Scott M
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 11, 2009 01:31AM)
There is one of these on the Cups and Balls museum site -- check the Unusual Cups page.
Message: Posted by: Scott M (Mar 11, 2009 07:43AM)
Thanks for a reference Bill on your site, mine has a more concave area for the ball to rest on the top and has more lighter wood. Each one is unique because of the wood used. When you split it open, you get saturated with the way the wood looks inside.

-Scott M
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 11, 2009 02:52PM)
Uday's Magic World has a set of inexpensive wooden cups with a 4th cup that is suitable for this routine. You always see them on Ebay.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 11, 2009 03:21PM)
John Dahms' work was such that each cup is unique.
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Mar 11, 2009 11:54PM)
Are their any clips of this one cup routine around?
Message: Posted by: milesg (Mar 12, 2009 12:47AM)
Yes, I am very intrigued by the uniqueness of the cup. Even a good description would be appreciated.
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Mar 12, 2009 01:23AM)
Miles,

The book "The Amazing Miracles Of Shigeo Takagi" includes the routine and it appears to have several other fascinating works within! I plan to add this book to my library soon!
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 12, 2009 01:40AM)
I own one of these cups -but I am wondering exactly how they are so unique!
I bought one because it was at a magic auction, cheap, and I liked the routine, and I'm also a low budget magic collectables nut... but I don't see it.

What am I missing?
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Mar 12, 2009 03:00AM)
Add the book to your library! Is FULL of Gems!
I look for the cup,
Hansel!
Message: Posted by: Olivier BIENVENU (Mar 12, 2009 03:49PM)
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On 2009-03-12 02:40, gaddy wrote:
I bought one because it was at a magic auction, cheap...

What am I missing?
[/quote]

Your are lucky because I also bought mine at a magic auction and it was not cheap. Why I paid a lot ? because maybe I'm crazy, or maybe because I love beautiful hand made magic props or because it's rare. I love cups and balls and Shigeo Takagi one cup routine is very interesting by the climax at the end.

Here a picture of my solid cup
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 13, 2009 03:31AM)
[quote]
On 2009-03-12 16:49, Olivier BIENVENU wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-03-12 02:40, gaddy wrote:
I bought one because it was at a magic auction, cheap...

What am I missing?
[/quote]

Your are lucky because I also bought mine at a magic auction and it was not cheap. Why I paid a lot ? because maybe I'm crazy, or maybe because I love beautiful hand made magic props or because it's rare. I love cups and balls and Shigeo Takagi one cup routine is very interesting by the climax at the end.

Here a picture of my solid cup
[/quote]

It is strange and fascinating that a little round block of wood can be so pleasing to the eye and have such history...

I just wish the original Japanese language (with cute little line drawings) instruction pamphlet it came with was in better condition.

I guess that's just the nature of collectibles...
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jun 25, 2017 06:07PM)
I used to perform this one years ago, and I miss it a lot. It's beautiful pure sleight of hand. I'm going to look around and see if I can find one again. Along with "solid tunnel wand" there are a handful of routines from my misty past that I want to bring back..
Message: Posted by: Mobius303 (Jun 26, 2017 10:17PM)
Https://www.rnt2.com/takagi-micro-cup-royal-ebony.html

Donnie still has one for sale too.....nice looking cup.
I have one and love it. Great routine.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jun 29, 2017 03:22PM)
Thanks for the tip!
Message: Posted by: plungerman (Jul 5, 2017 08:58PM)
I love the original cup and used to work on the routine. Every time the spectator picked up the cup at the end, after the load ball disappeared into it, they would try to unscrew the cup. It just had to be hollow somehow.

A little later they came up with a solid cup that did unscrew to reveal some kind of load ball inside. A nice prop but a disappointment for me. Can't you just end with a great ending already? No, let's make some mud out of it. Seriously; once the cup is "tricked out" the mystery goes away.

I used to put the load ball back into the cup with the Vernon Cone and Ball move. Once the cup is on the table the ball is in FL and I'm asking "What color is the ball now?"
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Jul 10, 2017 09:04PM)
Agreed Plungerman! The tricked out hollow cup defeats the mystery of its supposed solidity.
Message: Posted by: Mark Levenson (Sep 8, 2017 10:48AM)
The reaction I get to the solid cup reveal is so strong that I can't imagine going on to the hollow cup reveal, which changes the audience's wonder from "how did he do all of that with a solid cup?" to "how did he get those balls in and out of the hollowed out space?" the latter being a less awesome question. Because Takagi in the Kaufman book suggests that stand-up performers might stop at the solid-cup reveal, I do it that way even though I sit. And instead of a Takagi-routine cup, I use a solid-kicker cups-and-balls cup. Less expensive, more versatile (since it can be used in cups and balls), and the solid copper (RNT2 Paul Fox mini) weighs a ton--impressive when the spectators handle the cup afterwards.
Message: Posted by: Nala Nosmoht (Sep 8, 2017 11:36AM)
Probably not what you're looking for but I have a Mikame Wooden cup listed in "tricks and Effects for Sale or Trade" forum. (PM me I can email a pic'
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Apr 26, 2019 10:10PM)
Steven's Magic will have a limited stock of these in May. It's the original designed Shigeo Takagi cup and his original routine, balls etc. The cup is a little bit heavier than the original
because it has been turned from Cuban Mahogany. Mrs Takagi has granted Steven's Magic exclusive rights of the routine to Stevens.