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Topic: Ed Keener's Cups
Message: Posted by: lint (Apr 23, 2009 09:14PM)
I never stop marveling at these wonderful cups. Bill, any more light you can shed on them?

[img]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5133/edkeeneraluminumtands.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: pepka (Apr 23, 2009 11:00PM)
WOW! That is amazing. It looks like pewter. Really beautiful cups. I can't wait to hear the story behind these.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 24, 2009 12:44AM)
I don't know who made them. They really moved me when I saw them.
Message: Posted by: rannie (Apr 24, 2009 01:50AM)
Drooling in Manila!
Message: Posted by: Turk (Apr 24, 2009 03:20AM)
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On 2009-04-23 22:14, lint wrote:
I never stop marveling at these wonderful cups. Bill, any more light you can shed on them?
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On 2009-04-24 01:44, Bill Palmer wrote:
I don't know who made them. They really moved me when I saw them.
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Lint,

I have it on good authority (yeh, right!) that these are really only a set of cheap Jack-in-the-Box promotional give-away cups. To show you what a guy I am, I'll help you out and take these off your hands. You can thank me later. (grin)

Mike
Message: Posted by: Keith Mitchell (Apr 24, 2009 09:43AM)
WOW, where did these cups come from???? Would love to have those babies especially in copper! :) :) :)
Message: Posted by: Robert Kohler (Apr 24, 2009 10:21AM)
......if just one of them was chopped. [kidding]
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 24, 2009 12:18PM)
The cups were being set up in a dealer booth at the World Magic Seminar in Las Vegas by James Dimmare, who was selling all of Ed Keener's props. Being on the staff, I was "in early" and when I saw them told Dimmare, to NOT SELL THEM TO ANYONE UNTIL BILL PALMER has a chance.
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Apr 24, 2009 01:14PM)
Looks like they came from the Vatican.
Nice.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Apr 24, 2009 03:07PM)
Uncle Pete, you dirty bird! If these were at the seminar someone should have brought them to the cups and balls discussion. They're beautiful and I bet no one there had seen them before.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 24, 2009 05:26PM)
Peppy... they were on display in Dimarre's booth for a couple of days. Also there were a few other amazing sets of Keener's there too. (I think Bill got them all). :cups:
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 25, 2009 12:55AM)
Yes, I did.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Apr 25, 2009 01:43AM)
The shape looks a little bit like the Vernon silver cups. Bill, what are they made from?
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 25, 2009 05:43PM)
Metal.
Message: Posted by: BCS (Apr 25, 2009 05:46PM)
Are they heavy?
Message: Posted by: Keith Mitchell (Apr 25, 2009 06:53PM)
CAN WE BUY A SET?????? :)
Message: Posted by: lint (Apr 25, 2009 08:59PM)
Bills site says they are aluminum.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 25, 2009 11:01PM)
They are aluminum, unless you live in the UK, in which case, they are aluminium.
Message: Posted by: BCS (Apr 27, 2009 09:43AM)
Bill… Can you please tell us the process that is used to engrave Cups?

Thanks,
Bruce
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 27, 2009 12:29PM)
PMFJI, but you take them to an expert at engraving. Many of these top folks do knives and guns and various types of specialty pieces.

Some by hand, some by CNC machines. One of the best, that I knew slightly, was the late Joe Condon. He did cups for Johnny Thompson. I believe he did the Lion Head award masters for Siegfried and Roy.
Message: Posted by: BCS (Apr 27, 2009 01:47PM)
I am sure that it would be expensive to do the engraving… are these a standard Cup (of the shelf Cup) or were the Cups custom spun?

Thanks,
Bruce
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 28, 2009 12:20PM)
Sadly, the only person that would know, would be Ed Keener, and he's been deceased for some time.
Message: Posted by: BCS (Apr 28, 2009 01:11PM)
None the less they are certainly a marvelous set of Cups.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 28, 2009 04:23PM)
AFAIk, these are off-the-shelf cups, but I don't know the manufacturer.
Message: Posted by: thelestat (May 3, 2009 04:27PM)
Carl Hemeon Had them Made for Ed, so I don't know who the actual engraver was...Dimmare
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (May 3, 2009 06:10PM)
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On 2009-05-03 17:27, thelestat wrote:
Carl Hemeon Had them Made for Ed, so I don't know who the actual engraver was...Dimmare
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Hello James:

Is Carl still around?
Message: Posted by: CanadianMagicguy (May 3, 2009 06:36PM)
Ufortunately Carl passed away (Victoria, BC)some years ago.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (May 3, 2009 06:53PM)
Too bad.
Message: Posted by: Shawn Farquhar (Feb 9, 2012 02:40AM)
I was proud to have Carl Hemeon as my mentor and I am now the proud owner of the other set of cups... I also have the most amazing paper cut that was done with one sheet of paper. Ed Keener had two of them made in Spain. The other hangs in the Magic Castle. The only difference in the two images is the initials in the table cloths. One has MC and the other CH ... Carl was the consummate performer...

-shawn
member of SAM #95 the Carl Hemeon Assembly
Message: Posted by: nschober3 (Feb 21, 2013 04:19PM)
Here's a little info on these cups.
http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/EdKeener/Cups.html

Enjoy!
Message: Posted by: Keith Mitchell (Feb 21, 2013 07:54PM)
Thanks nschober3 for this information. It was nice to see this topic again with THOSE cups!
Message: Posted by: Wizard of Oz (Feb 21, 2013 08:28PM)
Mag-frickin'-nificent!
Message: Posted by: Moonstone76 (Feb 22, 2013 11:03AM)
A real work of pure art....just marvellous
Message: Posted by: BRMagic (Feb 26, 2013 02:01PM)
Those are really gorgeous cups.