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Topic: The Great Contemporary Art Bubble Has Burst
Message: Posted by: tommy (May 19, 2009 07:19PM)
Good!

I had never seen such a load of crap in all my life.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (May 19, 2009 08:51PM)
Aw man, I was just getting ready to start my career as the great bubble wrap artist!
Now what am I going to do with 10 boxes of bubble wrap? Not to mention the body paint!
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (May 19, 2009 09:08PM)
Would this include the morons who put up 1000 bed sheets to flap in the wind?
Message: Posted by: tommy (May 20, 2009 11:27AM)
Yes Santa that stuff;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gth8_3msnIk
Message: Posted by: balducci (May 20, 2009 11:39AM)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=a1k_i10N5GbE&refer=home
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (May 20, 2009 02:11PM)
As for modern art, this takes the "cake". HA


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article399078.ece
Message: Posted by: gaddy (May 20, 2009 03:54PM)
Art really sucks, doesn't it?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (May 20, 2009 04:44PM)
Art is cool, nut jobs taking money and then putting out a joke as serious art just to see who bites isn't art. Hanging sheets in the wind, a garbage can with garbage in it, a urinal, are not art. While at it some of the famed beat poets were not poets.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (May 20, 2009 06:18PM)
The history of art is it's own subject.
The marketplace of art is too.

there's a cute sci-fi story involving aliens and cow-pies which parodies that situation.
Message: Posted by: Scott Cram (May 20, 2009 09:14PM)
Here's a hat tip to prankster Hugh Troy, who was ahead of his time in showing how the public's interest in art is truly generated.

Back in the 1950s, when Hugh was still a college student, there was a touring exhibit of Van Gogh's work that was going through his town, about which there was plenty of talk.

Hugh wanted to show up the supposedly high-brow tastes of the attendees, so he carved a fake ear out of chipped beef, cooking it and aging it to make it seem more realistic, and then smuggled it in to the exhibit in a beautiful cherry wood box lined with red velvet inside. There was even a plaque explaining that this was THE very ear that Van Gogh himself had cut off and sent to a prostitute.

The poor exhibitors were stuck. They knew it was fake, but word of it was getting more people to come see the exhibit, and they didn't want to kill the crowds. Naturally, the exhibitors made a big stink about the fraud once it had closed up, but never a peep while the crowds were paying.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (May 21, 2009 01:41AM)
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On 2009-05-20 17:44, MagicSanta wrote:
Art is cool, nut jobs taking money and then putting out a joke as serious art just to see who bites isn't art. Hanging sheets in the wind, a garbage can with garbage in it, [b]A URINAL[/b], are not art. While at it some of the famed beat poets were not poets.
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Everyone's opinion on art is valid, but some people's opinions on art are more interesting, coherent and worth listening to than others...
If you are referring to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)]Fountain[/url] by [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Duchamp]Marcel Duchamp[/url] then I must submit that you, sir, do not know what you're talking about... Do you realize that that particular piece has been called [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)#Legacy]"THE most influential piece of the 20th century"[/url] by many respected art critics?

Some beat poets were not poets? Then what were they?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (May 21, 2009 02:47PM)
They were morons. By brother was an artist (did a lot of those hand outs for the concerts back in the day) and I was subjected to these idiots that thought they were artist and poets. Have you read the stuff they put out? I remember one called Bacon or something and the poem was 'sizzzzzle'. Wow...brilliance, I also like the blank ones after the title.

I recall being at my brothers office when he was an art director (he later had brain damage from an accident and ended up homeless, he's no longer living) and people would come in with their 'art' and it would be stuff like, and this is real, a scan of a David Bowie cassette cover reproduced 15 times. His favorite was a guy who came in and actually had one of my brothers pieces in his portfolio and claimed he did it!

I will submit to you, sir, that I have as much right to comment on art as any critic.
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (May 21, 2009 04:13PM)
I seem to remember a 60 Minutes piece where they had all these art experts judge a bunch of new art pieces. Only one was from an up and coming artist. The other pieces were either done by a four year old, a monkey, some random splashings, etc.

From what I remember the new artist either got no response or very little while the "experts" raved over the kid's drawings and the monkey's splashings.

Greg
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (May 21, 2009 04:56PM)
Nothing is easier than fooling an art critic. You can urinate in public and claim it is performance art.
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (May 21, 2009 04:58PM)
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On 2009-05-21 17:56, MagicSanta wrote:
Nothing is easier than fooling an art critic. You can urinate in public and claim it is performance art.
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There's goes my Urine The Money Miser's Dream routine. :rotf:

Oh, that's what I find funny about the art world... they fool themselves more often than magicians. They actually believe their own hype.

Greg
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (May 21, 2009 06:05PM)
As, seemingly, the only person who remembers Vaughn Abode and his art it indicates I am the authority.
Message: Posted by: Steve_Mollett (May 21, 2009 06:41PM)
Vaughn Abode....

Any relation to Vaughn Bode, creator of Cheech Wizard?
Message: Posted by: gaddy (May 22, 2009 12:31AM)
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On 2009-05-21 15:47, MagicSanta wrote:
They were morons. By brother was an artist (did a lot of those hand outs for the concerts back in the day) and I was subjected to these idiots that thought they were artist and poets. Have you read the stuff they put out? I remember one called Bacon or something and the poem was 'sizzzzzle'. Wow...brilliance, I also like the blank ones after the title.

I recall being at my brothers office when he was an art director (he later had brain damage from an accident and ended up homeless, he's no longer living) and people would come in with their 'art' and it would be stuff like, and this is real, a scan of a David Bowie cassette cover reproduced 15 times. His favorite was a guy who came in and actually had one of my brothers pieces in his portfolio and claimed he did it!

I will submit to you, sir, that I have as much right to comment on art as any critic.
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As I submitted that idea to [i]you[/i] first, and at the risk of sounding facetious, perhaps there's not as much difference between your brother's artist friend and yourself.

Also, weren't you comment on things that, specifically, were NOT art?

That's a little joke, by the way, and has nothing to do with art...
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (May 22, 2009 12:46AM)
Huh?
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (May 24, 2009 12:04PM)
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On 2009-05-21 17:13, Greg Arce wrote:
I seem to remember a 60 Minutes piece where they had all these art experts judge a bunch of new art pieces. Only one was from an up and coming artist. The other pieces were either done by a four year old, a monkey, some random splashings, etc.

From what I remember the new artist either got no response or very little while the "experts" raved over the kid's drawings and the monkey's splashings.

Greg
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There was a "Murphy Brown" episode where Murphy, annoyed at two art critic's ravings over "impressionistic" art, actually sneaks a scribble by her son into the exhibit. One critic raves over it and the other dismisses it as "the scribblings of a two year old" thus actually taking the wind a little out of Murphy.