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Topic: Same sex penguin couple adopts abandoned egg in German zoo
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jun 6, 2009 11:42PM)
From the [url=http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/06/05/gay-penguins-adopt005.html?ref=rss]CBC[/url]

Keepers at Germany's Bremerhaven zoo couldn't get two penguin parents to take care of their egg, so they're trying an experiment they gave the egg to a set of same sex male penguin couples.

The biological parents "always rolled the egg out of their nest, they kicked it out again and again," zoo veterinarian Joachim Schoene said.

"Then we made the decision not to give it up and instead try to give it two fathers."

So far, the experiment has been a success. The two foster dads incubated the egg for 30 days until it hatched and have continued to care for the newborn chick.

[img]http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2009/06/05/humboldt-penguins-cp-681808.jpg[/img]

The male penguins, named Z and Vielpunkt, are one of three same-sex pairs of Humboldt penguins at the zoo. That means almost a third of the zoo's 20 penguins who have attempted to mate exhibit homosexual behaviour. Same-sex penguin pairs have also been observed at zoos in Japan and New York.
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Jun 7, 2009 01:18PM)
Interesting story John. I know of someone who goes by "z", not sure what he would think of sharing a name with a penguin.

I think they should be able to get married.
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jun 7, 2009 03:16PM)
That's what evolution will get you... ;)
Message: Posted by: boynextdoor (Jun 7, 2009 05:06PM)
Aw...
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 7, 2009 05:17PM)
Don't the males usually incubate the eggs? Let me know when a female penguin incubates an egg and I'll be impressed.
Message: Posted by: asithlord (Jun 7, 2009 05:21PM)
ITS ONLY NATURE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR OWN, IF I WAS IN THAT POSITION I WOULD LOOK AFTER THE EGG TOO.
IT WOULD ENSURE SURVIVAL OF THE SPECIES SO ITS NOT THAT MUCH OF A SHOCKER (OR CUTE)
INTERESTING POST NON THE LESS
CHEERS
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jun 7, 2009 07:41PM)
[quote]
On 2009-06-07 18:21, asithlord wrote:
ITS ONLY NATURE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR OWN, IF I WAS IN THAT POSITION I WOULD LOOK AFTER THE EGG TOO.
IT WOULD ENSURE SURVIVAL OF THE SPECIES SO ITS NOT THAT MUCH OF A SHOCKER (OR CUTE)
INTERESTING POST NON THE LESS
CHEERS
[/quote]

Why are you shouting?
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jun 7, 2009 08:05PM)
Probably the bit about surrogate parenting (neither member of the couple is directly biologically related to the child) that gets one wondering

[quote]he two foster dads incubated the egg for 30 days until it hatched and have continued to care for the newborn chick. [/quote]

And the implied question ... what is the statistical distribution of gay penguins raised by gay penguins compared to ...

Another item not touched on in the article is the egg refusing behavior of the parents. There's a long term and serious topic of study of its own.
Message: Posted by: Big Jeff (Jun 7, 2009 09:34PM)
Penguin Protective Services should get involved.

Someone HAS to go to jail.

Do the nongay parents have other kids? PPS should take them away.
Message: Posted by: Daegs (Jun 7, 2009 09:40PM)
Far too often gay penguins have been put down by society!

Their time is coming!!!
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jun 7, 2009 09:51PM)
Okay, who's gonna offer pink penguin merchandise?
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jun 7, 2009 09:52PM)
Okay, who's gonna offer pink penguin merchandise? Say two pink penquins and a blue egg?
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Jun 7, 2009 10:04PM)
We have Fairy Penguins here in Australia.

Fairy Penguins are, in the main, straight.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 7, 2009 10:37PM)
I always thought flamingos were gay penguins.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jun 7, 2009 10:52PM)
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On 2009-06-07 23:04, Destiny wrote:
We have Fairy Penguins here in Australia.

Fairy Penguins are, in the main, straight.
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Haven't they been renamed Little Penguins or something equally imaginative?

John
Message: Posted by: asithlord (Jun 8, 2009 04:56PM)
Sorry magnus I didn't mean to shout
I was just giving my opinion,
I did like the story and all things gay however I don't swing that way
if that's what you were wondering, as for the gay penguins rearing kids,
that should be up to the social worker department of ethical diversity avian authority and not the zoo.
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Jun 8, 2009 05:31PM)
[quote]Haven't they been renamed Little Penguins or something equally imaginative?[/quote]

Crunchberries.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jun 9, 2009 11:12AM)
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On 2009-06-07 18:17, MagicSanta wrote:
Don't the males usually incubate the eggs? Let me know when a female penguin incubates an egg and I'll be impressed.
[/quote]

I think they switch off. The father goes off and gorges himself on fish while the mother incubates the egg. Then the father finds the nest and takes over while the mother finally goes to get something to eat. So the father is the one incubating the egg when it finally hatches.

It doesn't sound like a fun life.
Message: Posted by: gsidhe (Jun 9, 2009 11:23AM)
Watch march of the penguins.
The male sits on the eggs for a month or so after the female lays the eggs. She goes off to grab some food for the entire gestation.
She comes back when it is able to walk.
Being a boy penguin would be terrible.
Gwyd
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jun 9, 2009 01:44PM)
So when lesbian penguins stay on the egg that would be something. I take it the lipstick penguin would go eat the fish...oh wait...
Message: Posted by: Close.Up.Dave (Jun 13, 2009 12:42AM)
To quote the average ignorant person, "that's just not right!" Funny how a lot of things that don't line up with our societal "morals" (which are a bunch of stupid MADE UP rules) seem to work out for the best when they are left in peace. I think it's great that a species with less complex brains than ours can solve problems better than we can.

truth is stranger than fiction

-David
Message: Posted by: NJJ (Jun 15, 2009 01:28PM)
They also practice prostitution

http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Penguin-Prostitutes
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Jun 15, 2009 01:55PM)
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On 2009-06-15 14:28, Nicholas J. Johnson wrote:
They also practice prostitution

http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Penguin-Prostitutes
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Favourite sentence: "The going rate appears to be one good stone per shag." LOL

John