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Topic: Sleeves
Message: Posted by: delpfin (May 29, 2003 04:06AM)
What do you think, are long or short sleeves better for a manipulation act?

In one point of view, the use of sleeves is the greatest myth about magicians. When a spectator sees a magic show, most times he is amazed at first look and next he thinks, "this guy got from his sleeve, or put it into his sleeve." He doesn't think about others methods, and the real secret is secure.

But if a magician has short sleeves and produces cards, balls, cigarettes, etc., the spectator is totally amazed! But today, spectators never believe in real magic (maybe kids and some blondes;) ). And the spectator seriously thinks and sometimes can discover the secret. But if he doesn't discover the secret, he is very, very amazed.

But which way is better, long or short sleeves?

PS. - Three years ago at a Polish national convention, one magician performed ball productions with short sleeves, and some days letter one journalist wrote the following in a newspaper, "This guy does a very nice ball production, but a keen observer can figure out that a magician gets balls from his sleeve." :rotf: ...From short sleeves? :lol:
Message: Posted by: Darkwing (May 29, 2003 08:35PM)
I think long sleeves are better. It takes the heat off of the other areas where the real magic is taking place. Anyway, the audience knows you are using your sleeves.
Message: Posted by: Magique Hands (May 30, 2003 11:51AM)
Even though I do use my sleeves during part of my manipulation act, there is a point in the routine where I roll them up (attempting to dispell that my sleeves are used).

I'm not so sure if audience members truly think "Oh...he must be using his sleeves." During certain manipulation routines where sleeving may be involved, the sleeving should be indetectable (watch Rocco Silano, and you'll understand what I mean).

Personally, I prefer long sleeves that are rolled up to the elbows - - not because I'm using them, but because I want to dispell the notion that my sleeves are being used. I like the way rolling the sleeves up helps create a 'clean,' 'open & honest' psyche in the minds of audiences.

Magically,
- - Troy
Message: Posted by: DaveWomach (Jun 2, 2003 02:20AM)
I was just reading through these threads, and thought I'd throw out my own experiences real fast.

I've done a dove act for the past 6 years. After shows people would often ask, "How do you fit so many (6) doves in your sleeves?" as if they really knew how it was being accomplished. It finally took Ed Alonzo kicking my butt into action to actually do something about it. Now I do my act without sleeves, and the audience has reacted well! I had Ardan James listen into a couple shows from the audience, and they've been completely fooled.

My point being... from my personal experiences, in my own little world, I've noticed that No Sleeves is WAY more effective to the LAY Audience than having sleeves. I hope this helps. :)
Message: Posted by: Chrystal (Jun 2, 2003 03:18AM)
Hi,

I have to agree with Dave. For those of you not familiar with his performance it is nothing short of fantastic! Six doves in short sleeves..it looked impressive!

The last time I saw his act which was part of a National Tour, I remember thinking that his wearing short sleeves was a great idea. Anyway, that's my two cents worth.

Pss Delphin...whaddya mean there's no such thing as real magic? :hysteric:
Message: Posted by: boltt223 (Jun 3, 2003 01:03AM)
I have done my act in both long and short sleeves. I really don't have a preference I will look at the venue, either formal or casual then decide what I will wear for that particular show. :smiles: