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Topic: Andrew Mayne's "Levitator" is coming
Message: Posted by: gitty (Aug 16, 2009 03:55AM)
First announcement ...
http://andrewmayne.com/blog/2009/08/coming-soon-3/
Message: Posted by: Piz (Aug 16, 2009 11:53AM)
Hmmmm, looks interesting.

Well, Andrew Mayne behind this got me intriged. As a collector I'll most likely get it.

Whats the price on this Andrew? Demo soon???



Paul
Message: Posted by: Sam Weiss (Aug 16, 2009 12:37PM)
Now THAT looks like it's going to be good... I wonder what type of performance area this can be done at: stage or street?
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Aug 16, 2009 03:27PM)
Andrew's photo reminds me of this :)

http://www.aptricks.com/product_ie.php
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Aug 16, 2009 04:11PM)
Other than a poster of Andrew levitating, I see nothing here that gives any clue or idea of what the trick is. I can't tell if it's interresting, or going to be any good. I look forward to seeing a demo once one comes out. Then, at least I'll have a clue what it is before deciding if it's interresting or any good. :)
Message: Posted by: Seeker (Aug 17, 2009 12:33AM)
I really dislike this form of advertising. I am not trying to bash Mayne. I think he puts out some good material. But the idea of putting out a little at a time...gives me a headache.

Anyways...I look forward to seeing actual info.

-Jacob
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Aug 17, 2009 03:07AM)
Could this be the one we've been searching for??
Message: Posted by: Hogle (Aug 17, 2009 04:56AM)
No...
Message: Posted by: Mark Jones (Aug 17, 2009 05:10AM)
There will never be the perfect levitation. I have the Icarus and it's the best I've ever tried so far.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Aug 17, 2009 06:07AM)
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On 2009-08-17 06:10, Mark Jones wrote:
There will never be the perfect levitation. I have the Icarus and it's the best I've ever tried so far.
[/quote]

Method is overly exposed IMO, I stopped performing my Icarus years ago. It's a shame as it's such a wonderful illusion.

N-E-Way

Going to be interesting to see Andrew Mayne's spin on the self levi, I have some of his work, his illusions are very well thought out, kinda off the wall but ingenious in his thinking.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Aug 17, 2009 07:31AM)
I believe that most will be disappointed as most are with levi's.
Message: Posted by: Seeker (Aug 17, 2009 01:04PM)
I have come to realise that most levitations are just pipe dreams...

Maybe I should call up Criss A. and have him tell me how to do it for a live audience, no stoogies...hahaha
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 17, 2009 01:10PM)
Haha, yeah for sure
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Aug 17, 2009 01:16PM)
That's the thing about levitations. Every year a new method or gimmick is brought out to the market with the hype that it's the best on the market. Years of research, and blah, blah, blah. :) The next following year, the creator comes out with an improved method(gimmick) due to all the problems customers are having with it. I like most of Andrew Maynes's stuff. I have a few of his ebooks. I don't expect this to be cheesy by any means, but I don't get excited about levitations anymore. Most of them have turned out to be a disapointment. I still use the Balducci method on certain occassions, and have never been busted. I continue to look forward to seeing a demo, cause you just never know. This could turn out to be the next big thing in levitations. I won't give up all hope just yet. :)
Message: Posted by: tomacker (Aug 18, 2009 06:00AM)
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On 2009-08-17 07:07, Piz wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-08-17 06:10, Mark Jones wrote:
There will never be the perfect levitation. I have the Icarus and it's the best I've ever tried so far.
[/quote]

Method is overly exposed IMO, I stopped performing my Icarus years ago. It's a shame as it's such a wonderful illusion.

N-E-Way

Going to be interesting to see Andrew Mayne's spin on the self levi, I have some of his work, his illusions are very well thought out, kinda off the wall but ingenious in his thinking.
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I agree with you Piz. But we have to remind ourselfs that we are not performing to magicians. I performed this many times and no one ever commented on anything about the method etc..
Message: Posted by: tomacker (Aug 18, 2009 06:02AM)
Yep. Pipe dreams. But let's wait and see Mayne's approach. Shrinker was a good effect.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Aug 18, 2009 07:00AM)
[quote]
On 2009-08-18 07:00, tomacker wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-08-17 07:07, Piz wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-08-17 06:10, Mark Jones wrote:
There will never be the perfect levitation. I have the Icarus and it's the best I've ever tried so far.
[/quote]

Method is overly exposed IMO, I stopped performing my Icarus years ago. It's a shame as it's such a wonderful illusion.

N-E-Way

Going to be interesting to see Andrew Mayne's spin on the self levi, I have some of his work, his illusions are very well thought out, kinda off the wall but ingenious in his thinking.
[/quote]

I agree with you Piz. But we have to remind ourselves that we are not performing to magicians. I performed this many times and no one ever commented on anything about the method etc..
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It's not the fact that I feel everyone knows the method to Icarus, it's that folks that I know personally tell me the method, folks who should not be knowing these things.

When I was training the incoming (at the time) GM here at my work, I explained to him I was a magician, the very first thing he asked me was if I can float. I told him sure I can, he then said so can his 10 year old son could float also, and went on to explain the method.

On New-Years eve of 07 I was performing at a party I was doing for some of my fiance's brothers friends. My fiances brother came up to me, in-front of 20 people blabbing out the method to Icarus. I did not perform Icarus that night, I performed FLY, and thank God I did, but him simply knowing the method scares me. If he knows who else knows???

I will be the first to admit I got traumatized by these experiences.

I am sure if I just went out in public and performed Icarus no-one would know how I'm doing it, maybe a smll percentage of people would, but that small percentage knowing the method is more people then I would like to be knowing.

Just my look on
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Aug 18, 2009 08:42AM)
Me too. its very deflating when people tell you the method
Message: Posted by: magicmike30 (Aug 18, 2009 05:24PM)
Looking forward to this one. Andrew can you drop by and shed some light on this levi. Please fill us in.
Demo soon I hope.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Piz (Aug 21, 2009 01:10PM)
I found Pre-Orders being taken on this for only $17.95 for late Sept release.

Looks to be 5 different levi's on the DVD.

http://www.trickshopmagic.com/dvdlevitator.html


These 2 sound like Angels levi

Levitator – Stand on a chair and float several feet off the floor, to the side and then glide gently to the ground.

UP – A baffling effect where you float up to a chair and back down making the audience wonder if you levitated or slowed down time. Makes a great emcee bit.




:)
Message: Posted by: Christopher Rinaldi (Aug 21, 2009 03:06PM)
I think I've seen this stuff before, what is it being repackaged and sold as a DvD?
Message: Posted by: davidpeters (Aug 21, 2009 03:40PM)
We will be getting this product so you will be able to order it from your favorite dealer world wide!
Message: Posted by: T,im Dawson (Aug 21, 2009 04:07PM)
Just to let you know there is a video demo up!
The last one looks particulary impressive.
TJD
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 21, 2009 04:19PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb46sdkM5iQ

This?

Definitely not for me
Message: Posted by: gitty (Aug 21, 2009 05:23PM)
I like the demo and will order the DVD!
Message: Posted by: Christopher Lyle (Aug 21, 2009 11:10PM)
Ok...so I just watched the demo...

I think they ALL SUCK!

Question...why is it that every single levitation that is out on the market makes you look like that something is either attached to your person, or that your trying to balance on something.

If I'm going to to vanish a coin, why do would I first pick it up with my right hand to simply toss it into my left hand to make it vanish. If I'm already picking up the coin in my right hand, then why don't I make it vanish from that hand.

In the same instance, if I can really float off the ground, then why must I first hold a foulard in front of my body to float up to a chair. The lack of motivation makes little sense to me.

There will NEVER be a good self levitation. Everyone has saturated the market with their own version of this and IMO they all suck.

Jimmy Fingers has the most practicle version of this tho' you still hold up a foulard in front of you to hide the gimmick.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Aug 21, 2009 11:58PM)
That last one is stage magic
Message: Posted by: magic4545 (Aug 22, 2009 09:30AM)
Thanks for the kudos on the Magellan, Chris!!!

They're all good for different situations, and I'm convinced that the inventors of these effects can all perform them to appear as if their own method is the second coming of awesome!

Some people have been put off by the methods used. Understand, by definition, we're trying to provide the user with the impossible. For a fair price. And something that will wow the audience. Without jet packs, electromagnets, rigging, etc.

At some point, you might have to suspend disbelief, or at least be able to provide a working situation where you can cause the viewer to suspend disbelief. None of these methods are capable of being totally deceptive and impossible to figure out. Sometimes video cheats, and doesn't provide a very good idea of what your audience will get. That's not good. And it hurts the rest of us who will not compromise our credibility in that way for a sale.

One of my most proud moments was when Piz contacted me, telling me that it wasn't what he was looking for. Then, a few months later, he contacted me again telling me that he needed the instructions again, because he ended up in a situation where the piece would work. He was initially looking for something that was more of a self contained, strolling piece, like an Elevator or Levitation One by Peter Loughran. The Magellan is more of a stage/parlor effect, even though it would be more effective close up and at angles than the one-on-one Icarus. But, with the cloth, the potential effects of wind on the Magellan still relegate this to working out of a corner or foyer of a room. The Magellan should be considered by someone looking for a 3001 Suspension, Klamm's Walkaway, Flying Carpet, Super X, 3-in-1, Harbin Chair suspension, broom suspension, Flying, Stool levitation, "No Feet" or Gamolo. It's more effective in that arena. It's not so much of a potential polishing of the Balducci or current levitation tool that you're carrying in your pocket, no doubt.

Mayne's 'new' Levitator is something that appears to be similar to the Pocket Levitator. And that's not bad, especially since it's his to begin with! Performed properly, and with the right presentation, a masterpiece. So good, in fact, that one of my friends told me that Andrew was 'ripping off' my Magellan. Actually, a HUGE compliment to BOTH of Andrew AND I. That means that they're not picking up on the methods at ALL!!!

I would recommend NOT buying a levitation for the secret, but, instead, being aware beforehand what you're getting. Even if you figure out how to make a certain version, if you use it in your show, try to support the inventor. Especially Andrew. His stuff gets knocked off and published illegally, so much. Hook a brutha up!!! Even if you have to order a cheaper manuscript of something else, get some cash to him if you're using his stuff, that's all I'm saying. Encourage great thinking, and you will be karmically rewarded when YOU come out with something amazing!

I was very impressed with the Skywalker manual, but it IS a LOT of work to put this together properly and make it look good! Don't be afraid to try other methods of building this that aren't exactly in the instructions. Research the Magic Café, I've posted TONS of improvements and hints for improving and making Skywalker more livable!

I was very disappointed with the Levitation One videos where people used the low quality of youtube and a specific angle to give viewers the idea that an extended viewing below the feet would provide no hints of what was going on in this effect. I don't think that Peter did that, I really don't think that he would. He's got too much going for him in a credibility way to encourage that type of compromising of his reputation. But, I'll bet that THAT video made him a FORTUNE in sales!!!!

King Rising is brilliant thinking but just not something that I've ever been able to fool anyone with. Very difficult to execute in an impromptu situation, but so gimmickless and elegant, that it appeals to me on a purity and cleverness level that very few of the contraptions do. Talk about an amazing, prop-free follow up to the Balducci!!! But, I'm in Houston, and wearing a jacket for this would be a very short lived solution, because of the heat and humidity. Ugh!

I feel that with the proper execution and motivation, we could use ANY of these levitations in some way at some time.I also like shocking other magicians with the effect done LIVE!!! It's unbelievable and spooky. But, for my taste, the shock of rising almost a foot in a half, and revealing the legs and feet completely, make it worth only working situations where I can do the Magellan. I don't do outdoor shows. I rarely take strolling shows. I can go to an area of the room usually and perform it. But, I just really like doing it in a standup, house party parlor show.

I don't believe that the best use of Andrew's Levitator has been caught on tape, yet. Or invented. I think that someone is going to come along and find a use that will really emphasize the beauty of this concept. I'm thinking of a shopping bag, similar to the one in the "This End Up" video, that would contain something to take the place of the chair in the Levitator video. Offset, back out of the way enough, and not something that you would normally step on. Seriously, get thinking, everybody, it's too good to pass up for what it would cost or take to work on.

There is a huge range of complaints over the years about levitations, but what I'm seeing is so much potential if the purchaser takes the concepts, and says "What if?" We've got so many great methods that were not available 20 years ago. Wow, what a renaissance!

Best of luck to all of you, and never stop thinking,

Jimmy Fingers
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (Aug 22, 2009 10:49AM)
So is the DVD just a visual version of his Touching the Sky booklet?
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Aug 22, 2009 01:46PM)
Jimmy,

Im confused by your statement here;

Jimmy fingers wrote:
"I was very disappointed with the Levitation One videos where people used the low quality of youtube and a specific angle to give viewers the idea that an extended viewing below the feet would provide no hints of what was going on in this effect. I don't think that Peter did that, I really don't think that he would. He's got too much going for him in a credibility way to encourage that type of compromising of his reputation. But, I'll bet that THAT video made him a FORTUNE in sales!!!!"

Are you refering to my demo or ones posted by other such as this one here by Piz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KcUQcJK-SY

Piz's demo is shot in HIGH DEF. Or are you insuating something else from my demo?

Just so you know, we did not make a fortune on this product. I wish I did but I didn't. I don't think the words "Fortune" and "Magic tricks" can ever be used in the same sentence to be honest, espicially in todays economy. However both me and Ray beleive very strongly in our product, and still believe that for the price it is the most practical and convicing levitation on the market today.

I hope I misunderstood your comments.

Best,

Peter.
Message: Posted by: gitty (Aug 22, 2009 02:15PM)
MagicBrent,
I think the levitations on the DVD are different ones as in the booklet.
Message: Posted by: gitty (Aug 22, 2009 02:20PM)
Jimmy,
ONE is really "one" of the best self-levitations on the market for a price like that.
Sorry but I don't know your levitation - only saw your videos - because the price isn't for my pocket.
Message: Posted by: magic4545 (Aug 22, 2009 02:37PM)
Hi Peter, this is a total misunderstanding of what I meant. I was referring to a totally different video that was not from you. Someone posted a video that burned on the gimmick in a way that was not indicative of how the end user should believe that the piece is capable of actually being used consistently and effectively. You had no such shots in your promo, as I would expect. This has been discussed before, not by me.

I would spend triple what you charge for the One Levitation, and would not hesitate to make it part of my own repertoire, in any way.

Your friend, huge fan of your genius,

Jimmy
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Aug 22, 2009 02:38PM)
Is this just a compilation of already marketed levitations? Someone mentioned King Rising. I believe Corey King created that method, and his DVD is still available on the market. What other levitations are on this DVD?
Message: Posted by: Piz (Aug 22, 2009 03:40PM)
[quote]
On 2009-08-22 15:37, magic4545 wrote:
Hi Peter, this is a total misunderstanding of what I meant. I was referring to a totally different video that was not from you. Someone posted a video that burned on the gimmick in a way that was not indicative of how the end user should believe that the piece is capable of actually being used consistently and effectively. You had no such shots in your promo, as I would expect. This has been discussed before, not by me.

I would spend triple what you charge for the One Levitation, and would not hesitate to make it part of my own repertoire, in any way.

Your friend, huge fan of your genius,

Jimmy
[/quote]

***Sorry for getting off subject, but I feel this need to be said considering the slight turn in conversation, and also my name being mentioned***


First off "Thanks" Jimmy, and not because of it being a proud moment for you, but "THANK YOU" for you selling me SUCH a GREAT levi! It is truly a MASTERFUL levitation! :)

YOU ARE GENIOUS MY FRIEND!!! :D


I also cannot agree more about ONE levi being way underpriced!

Just to clear some things up for those who are posting ONE video's without thinking before hand, or even watching them before posting, consider this...

The viewing under the feet is something to look for, you cannot go floating around the neighborhood asking everyone to look under your feet, it's not gonna happen.

As I have stated numerous times, it all depends on the pattern of the carpeting/flooring you are performing ONE on.

I have done this on every imaginable patterned surface since I've had ONE, I pretty much mastered that part of it to where I know exactly what I'm looking for when I step into performance mode.

Check-out Jon Maronge in his ONE levi video (Remember to watch in HD), you can clearly see under his feet to the other side, and he stays up there quite a while. Once you have that knowledge of knowing what to look for, there is no worries of the spec seeing anything.

BTW, I was actually sitting on a couch while filming this vid (a LOW couch), and what you see in this vid (while watching in HD), is exactly how I saw it in person! It's a diabolically SICK illusion when you know what your doing with it! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frbGUixmwnc



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Message: Posted by: Mack Magic (Aug 22, 2009 08:33PM)
I think it is a little evident what is going on in the youtube video for Levitator (perhaps not to spectators). That being said, I have *never* been wronged by Andrew Mayne and love all of his work. For the price and his way of "selling" an illusion as being real to an audience, I will be picking up his dvd.

Cheers,
Mack
Message: Posted by: magic4545 (Aug 22, 2009 09:35PM)
Hello all,

The thread that I was referring to was from "The Mac" on this page of the One Levitation thread.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=287437&forum=109&start=570

I am in support of this effect, completely. Even as Peter's competition, I want this piece in my repertoire, and I have just ordered this to support Peter's creativity, livelihood and to show general support for this piece.

Please accept my apologies for any possible second guessing that this may cause you as a potential buyer.

I'm putting my money where my mouth is. It's a tough economy, and I want anyone who has any questions about spending their money on this piece to order soon and support this kind of creative thinking. If you're on the fence, come on off and put this in your arsenal.

http://www.masterofillusions.ca

And throw a "Sacred" into the basket when you're checking out... Scotty has some upgrades and improvements in store for you, as well.

Sincerely,

Jimmy Fingers
http://www.magellanlevitation.com
(832)755-6781
Message: Posted by: jtmorris (Sep 4, 2009 02:21PM)
Is it just me or do the first three levitations in the demo look just like "Wild Levitation"?

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=337
Message: Posted by: misterillusion (Sep 9, 2009 01:42PM)
I just got an email that this is being released today http://itricks.com/store/2009/08/levitator/
Message: Posted by: misterillusion (Sep 9, 2009 01:59PM)
Call me impulsive, but I watched the promo video five times and then ordered it just now. I have always been happy with Andrew's creations, so without hesitation I took the plunge. Price is $19.95.
Message: Posted by: Fábio DeRose (Sep 15, 2009 11:14AM)
So, anyone who already watched it can put in some feedback?

I'm curious about it.
Message: Posted by: JPK (Sep 16, 2009 07:29AM)
Good morning Fabio DeRose.
Mine should be arriving in the mail today or tomorrow. Once I have a chance to absorb it I will post about it. I have yet to be dissapointed in an Andrew Mayne release.
Message: Posted by: misterillusion (Sep 16, 2009 08:05AM)
I received mine a couple of days ago and all I can say is this is typical Andrew Mayne material--good stuff! I have used his effects over the years and I really enjoy being able to perform items which have a great reaction by my audiences at very little cost to me. I won't use everything on this DVD, but I am certainly going to use a couple of his methods. I would say that this DVD was worth my investment