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Topic: Rising Card - Chris Kenner
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Aug 17, 2009 05:17PM)
Chris Kenner's rising card for the iPhone was released this Saturday. The effect is very strong and the method is extremely brilliant (perhaps more brilliant than the tick itself).

The spectator names a card, the magician hands them the iPhone and lets them open the RisingCard application. A picture of a deck of cards appears, the spectator shakes it, and the named card rises out. It's clean and resets almost instantly. Available for $2.99 in the iTunes store.
Message: Posted by: WayneL (Aug 17, 2009 05:53PM)
The demo doesn't seems to show much. A real world performance would be great.

Wayne
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Aug 18, 2009 01:54AM)
It's so cheap, I would just go ahead and tell you to order it. I like the trick a lot.
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Aug 18, 2009 04:23AM)
BEST Magic App I have ever purchased! VERY Clever Indeed!!!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Aug 18, 2009 04:31AM)
Agreed that the method is cooler than the trick...not saying that the trick itself isn't, as it is a real fooler. I am usually of the school 'Never repeat a trick'...but with this one you can, not always, but I have once or twice since performing it. Great for an impromptu trick on the fly. I can't remember if the app says so in the insructions, but you can reset the trick right in front of them using the normal method rather than quitting the app and going back in
Message: Posted by: tomacker (Aug 18, 2009 06:06AM)
The great thing about this iphone apps thing is that they are cheap, so if you don't like it, well it won't hurt much.
Message: Posted by: Bungee (Aug 18, 2009 07:24AM)
I can say if you are a magician and own an iPhone or an iPod Touch this is a must have for $2.99
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Aug 18, 2009 09:23AM)
I got it. it is very cool. My wife made me do it for her bout 20 times before she gave up. only problem iv had is some people think the phone is using voice recognition.
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Aug 18, 2009 09:59AM)
This thing works very well.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Aug 18, 2009 10:15AM)
I just downloaded it. Very ingenious!
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Aug 18, 2009 11:28AM)
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On 2009-08-18 10:23, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I got it. it is very cool. My wife made me do it for her bout 20 times before she gave up. only problem iv had is some people think the phone is using voice recognition.
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Chris gives instructions to this incase someone says that, but I have never had anyone say that to me yet...funny, as I wouldn't mind if it was voice recognition!
Message: Posted by: Dave McFarland (Aug 18, 2009 11:31AM)
Ha! This is really fun. The only problem I see is that it's on the iTunes store (of course it has to be). The exposure possibilities are very high. I'm sure we'll see some 12 year old on YouTube exposing this one soon.
Message: Posted by: Dave McFarland (Aug 18, 2009 11:37AM)
Another good one is Psypic. Heirloom meets the iPhone.
Message: Posted by: rnaviaux (Aug 18, 2009 11:44AM)
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On 2009-08-18 12:31, Dave McFarland wrote:
Ha! This is really fun. The only problem I see is that it's on the iTunes store (of course it has to be). The exposure possibilities are very high. I'm sure we'll see some 12 year old on YouTube exposing this one soon.
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Its an iphone app. Something tells me that Youtube exposure isn't going to let the cat out of the bag. Its long since gotten out and left the buidling.
Message: Posted by: MJ Marrs (Aug 18, 2009 11:51AM)
Kenner thinks on a different level than most other humans. Brilliant!
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Aug 18, 2009 12:51PM)
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On 2009-08-18 12:31, Dave McFarland wrote:
Ha! This is really fun. The only problem I see is that it's on the iTunes store (of course it has to be). The exposure possibilities are very high. I'm sure we'll see some 12 year old on YouTube exposing this one soon.
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Perform it for old people who can't operate an iPhone or even know what one is. You could also perform it for the homeless who can not afford one. :goof:
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Aug 18, 2009 02:45PM)
That's me, can't afford these new-fangled gadgets. :kermit:
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Aug 18, 2009 02:46PM)
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On 2009-08-18 12:28, Christopher Williams wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 10:23, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I got it. it is very cool. My wife made me do it for her bout 20 times before she gave up. only problem iv had is some people think the phone is using voice recognition.
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Chris gives instructions to this incase someone says that, but I have never had anyone say that to me yet...funny, as I wouldn't mind if it was voice recognition!
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cool, I have not watched the video, only the written instructions ill view it soon
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Aug 18, 2009 03:05PM)
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On 2009-08-18 15:45, Pete Biro wrote:
That's me, can't afford these new-fangled gadgets. :kermit:
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I have 8 iPhones - I use them for my Multiplaying iPhone routine!
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Aug 18, 2009 03:50PM)
Great trick! Brilliant method indeed. Sadly I don't own an iphone.
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Aug 18, 2009 07:16PM)
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On 2009-08-18 15:46, Joshua Barrett wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 12:28, Christopher Williams wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 10:23, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I got it. it is very cool. My wife made me do it for her bout 20 times before she gave up. only problem iv had is some people think the phone is using voice recognition.
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Chris gives instructions to this incase someone says that, but I have never had anyone say that to me yet...funny, as I wouldn't mind if it was voice recognition!
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cool, I have not watched the video, only the written instructions ill view it soon
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How to you reset it to view the instructions again? What was written there doesn't seem to work (I don't see the app on the settings menu).
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 18, 2009 07:50PM)
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Will this work with a Palm Pilot (Palm TX)??

What format is this in??
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Message: Posted by: mike storz (Aug 18, 2009 08:10PM)
Just ordered it and really like it! Thanks for letting me know. :)
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Aug 18, 2009 09:56PM)
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On 2009-08-18 20:50, Salby wrote:
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Will this work with a Palm Pilot (Palm TX)??

What format is this in??
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No, it will only work on the iPhone. It's available in the iTunes store, so it's in their proprietary format (M4V I think?).
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Aug 18, 2009 10:11PM)
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On 2009-08-18 10:23, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I got it. it is very cool. My wife made me do it for her bout 20 times before she gave up. only problem iv had is some people think the phone is using voice recognition.
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I had someone ask me in private if it was voice recognition. I said, that's a cool idea, thanks! hahaha..
Message: Posted by: silverking (Aug 18, 2009 11:31PM)
This is killer.

Like any trick, the duffers will likely not achieve the full effect, but those who actually take the time to perform this properly will get a lot of milage from it.

Considering how good this is, and the number of iPhone and iPod users out there (who can search for and download this effect directly from their phones or ipods if they find it), I'd not openly use the term "rising card", which will show up on an iTunes search.....but rather use something like "mental choice", or some other pointless term that doesn't contain "card", or "rising", and won't lead the idly curious directly to the effect.

Brilliant work from Kenner, typical of his ability to hit the mark on pretty much everything he releases.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Aug 19, 2009 07:36AM)
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On 2009-08-18 20:16, Josh Chaikin wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 15:46, Joshua Barrett wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 12:28, Christopher Williams wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 10:23, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I got it. it is very cool. My wife made me do it for her bout 20 times before she gave up. only problem iv had is some people think the phone is using voice recognition.
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Chris gives instructions to this incase someone says that, but I have never had anyone say that to me yet...funny, as I wouldn't mind if it was voice recognition!
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cool, I have not watched the video, only the written instructions ill view it soon
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How to you reset it to view the instructions again? What was written there doesn't seem to work (I don't see the app on the settings menu).
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Go into the app itself and hold your finger down on the settings app
Message: Posted by: Jason A (Aug 19, 2009 11:56AM)
Very cool idea .
its good to do with the invisible deck.
Message: Posted by: wolfmaster (Aug 19, 2009 04:33PM)
The method looks very deceptive. I just don't like the "hand" design. Probably it would look better if the designed looked like a deck inside the iphone.
Anyway I might buy this one, iphone magic is practical.
Message: Posted by: Steven Leung (Aug 19, 2009 11:51PM)
Go get it. The best iPhone app up to this date. Period.

Maybe I should say get anything Chris Kenner wrote, produced, will write and will produce.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Aug 20, 2009 04:36AM)
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On 2009-08-20 00:51, Steven Leung wrote:
Go get it. The best iPhone app up to this date. Period.

Maybe I should say get anything Chris Kenner wrote, produced, will write and will produce.
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Good luck getting Superfly if you didn't go to the convention. ;)
Message: Posted by: thumbtip (Aug 20, 2009 09:31PM)
Downloaded it today. Very unique...Cool....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em4uttbIkik
There is the link to view.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Aug 21, 2009 12:18AM)
Yes, great trick, best iPhone magic app by far...

Improvements:

Better graphics and icon... here's why:

The hand graphic is just a sort of poorly lit snap shot of a guys hand holding a deck... bad for a coupe reasons.
1) It's just unattractive
2) It shows the Ace of Spades as the face card. While there is a note given about what to do if this card is selected I would much prefer seeing NO card at the start. It is sort of confusing for people to see a card right off the bat. On top of it they chose to use gimmicky non traditional card designs for the Ace of Spades. It makes it feel faker than it needs to.

Solution:

Forget the whole rising card gimmick, just have a blank screen and the have the choses card fade in. Or show the back f a card and have it flip over and be the chosen card... just make it cleaner.

Better icon:

The icon is of that same Ace of Spades. I hate that it shows a specific card because if that is the chosen card it seems set up or gives away the reveal before the app has even launched. Just use some graphic of a deck of cards or something. Stay away from a specific card for the same reason you should not show a specific card on the face of the pack.

So slight re-designs of the graphic nature of the presentation would help. The actual method, how it works and how easy it is to master are outstanding... best in class.

Oe last improvement... make the card rise higher if you must have the rising analogy to begin with. My preference is to drop the rise and have a different kind of reveal but as is the card barely reveals itself. You need to shale the phone a second time in order to get it to raise high enough to see the majority of the card... why?

Finally... I get the voice recognition idea ALL THE TIME. What I do is specifically keep the phone in my pocket when I ask them to name a card... they have no idea a phone is involved at all. Only then do I pull it out and it is clearly off. I turn it on and because of the method you see my REAL security code screen and my REAL screen saver... then I make sure to tell them NOT to name the card again... so there is no way it could be voice recognition.

I have also done this by forcing a card from a real deck... then revealing it on the phone... you can have it pre set making the presentation even smoother and a card is NEVER named that way.
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Aug 22, 2009 10:26PM)
Kudos to Kenner on a great little app! Of course I never expect anything but the best from him.

Here are a couple of other suggestions for improvements that would be super easy to incorporate for the developer and I believe they would improve the overall effect:

I'd rather see a CHSD order on the icons than what is programmed in now. It would be easier to remember and the existing tell tale words could be removed all together. The regular app names for the icons could be used giving it an additional layer of deception.

At the very least have the suit names removed on the page that you scroll to for the spec to start the app because you are going to have some observant specs pick up on this.

These should be very easy to incorporate and hope to see them soon in the next update on the itunes store.

Cheers!

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: silverking (Aug 23, 2009 12:49AM)
It's $2.99.
Message: Posted by: teevtee (Aug 24, 2009 08:05PM)
They could easily program it so that the icons could be dragged to whatever order the user would like them to be in, just as you can actually reorder the real icons on an iphone.
That would allow ultimate customization.

However I see no real problem with having the suit names... no one is studying the thing, if they are you are doing something wrong in the presentation. The effect (as far as they know) has not even begun at that point... they have no reason to question what is a very common and normal looking iphone screen at that point.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 26, 2009 05:36PM)
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I'm confused...

Where on the iTunes Website is this app?? I want to download it to my computer and try it out on my Palm Pilot. I believe it will work as it understands mp4 format also.

I just cannot find it on the website. I tried doing a search at that website with a many combinations of the words "Kenner Rising Magic Card", but nothing :(
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Message: Posted by: teevtee (Aug 27, 2009 04:22PM)
As far as I know it only works on an iPhone and the iPhone aps store is really (obviously) designed for iPhones, not Palm Pilots or Blackberries or what have you.

It shows up for my by simply searching for rising card.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 27, 2009 07:55PM)
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I still cannot find it.

I have changed the format of the videos found in the following iPhone Magic DVD and works fine on my Palm Pilot... I am sure I can alter the format on this if needs to be also.

http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/magic-with-the-iphone-vol-2-dvd-p-9499.html

Any other help on Direction to get the Rising Card effect?
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Message: Posted by: celebrity (Aug 28, 2009 08:28AM)
To find this you will have to go to the apps store not itunes. It is accessible through itunes though!

However this wont work with the palm pilot as the coding is designed and built into a mimicked iphone interface and would not fit with the palm pilot!
Message: Posted by: John Tudor (Aug 30, 2009 10:10AM)
I really like this one - and it's a fooler - AND the price is certainly right. It's a puzzle effect however, and needs your own presentation added to make it something more. It's the same thing as with Blaine's trick, I was really hoping for a more fleshed out presentation.
Still - GET IT!
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Aug 30, 2009 12:40PM)
I'd love to get it...but I can't find it either. I'm in the same boat as Salby!
Message: Posted by: VcosNJ (Aug 30, 2009 05:47PM)
Great price for a great trick! I got mine installed on my iTouch. I believe you can also get this from Theory11.
Message: Posted by: magicbern (Aug 31, 2009 12:00AM)
Its a fantastic application and very magical indeed. I don't really have the problem with 'voice recognition' claims.

For those who have problems finding it, just go to applications and tyope "rising card" - then download it and enjoy fooling people with it!
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Aug 31, 2009 10:51AM)
It is a good app but the icon set needs to be updated.. Its still showing the 2.1 icons where some of the 3.0 + icons are different like sms etc. You would think no one would notice but ive already had a few folks mention it..
Message: Posted by: silverking (Aug 31, 2009 10:57PM)
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On 2009-08-30 13:40, RooMan wrote:
I'd love to get it...but I can't find it either. I'm in the same boat as Salby!
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Go to iTunes, (PC or Mac doesn't matter)
Then find "App Store" within iTunes, (you gotta' to to the App Store to search, or you won't find it).
Click on "App Store",
Search for "rising card",

upon discovery, download to your computer, ipod touch or iphone.
Message: Posted by: Jason A (Sep 4, 2009 10:34AM)
It's a great app.
Using it just as an app. I didn't get such a good response.
Every one knows that you can download it from the app store.
But when you combiane it with a real magic tricks the response
is great. I love this app.
Message: Posted by: Mago Gregorio (Sep 7, 2009 03:45PM)
Very effective and recommended trick. I love it !
Message: Posted by: Jia Truong (Sep 8, 2009 04:47AM)
Makes me want to fork out money for an Iphone. But don't have money at the moment. *sigh* Maybe for my birthday... :)
Message: Posted by: Bob Johnston (Sep 16, 2009 09:19PM)
I keep both RisingCard and Street Magic (from David Blain) on my iPod thanks to my Eddie Manning. I’ve been using them with Crossroads and it works out very well. If you do much magic and have an iPod (or iPhone) you would be foolish not to have them sitting there. It would be like keeping a TT in your pocket, only it would be “hidden” in your device.

[b]This trick made available on iTunes begs a question…[/b]
If you had developed tricks this good, and could sell them for $25.00 each on a magic site for “mostly” magicians’ vs on iTunes for $3.00 each to the world, what would you do. I’m not talking here just about the money. In other words, would you feel a “professional” obligation to magicians over a probable windfall?

Bob
Message: Posted by: illusioneer (Sep 16, 2009 11:08PM)
All I have to say is...

If this App can fool 15 Mac Specialists (the blue shirts at any Apple Retail Store - they look at iPhones all day) then it can fool the pants off any laymen regardless of what the screen looks like or whatever writing may be on the apps.

Sure - there are tweaks that could be made - but like someone pointed out above, the thing's $3. There are a lot WORSE things you could spend your money on.

I am Rich app??? Anybody remember that one?

Just my 2 cents
Message: Posted by: canasta (Sep 16, 2009 11:22PM)
A very good app indeed!...Perfect for an "out" as well.
Message: Posted by: Slepton (Sep 21, 2009 01:39PM)
If you combine it with Universal Impression (pad version), you have a true piece of mentalism.. eliminating in the meantime the "voice recognition" claims.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 21, 2009 03:50PM)
Hi guys,

In my opinion, (and I'm often wrong!) It does not matter if icons on your home page are old or new.

Apple lets you use what ever icons you want on your iphone. My home screen does not look like yours. And yours does not look like Kenner's.

I think this freedom of choice renders the argument "the icons are old or not right, or odd" meaningless. If you are worried about it, then you are running when no one is chasing you.

I like Kenner's App.

It's going to be interesting to watch the field develop.
Ben Harris
Message: Posted by: Steve Friedberg (Sep 24, 2009 01:11PM)
I’ve been involved in the development of a similar iPhone app called “Harry.” I, too, own the Kenner effect. I like it, but the biggest concern I have with it, one that “Harry” solves, is that it smacks of nothing but technology. “Harry” involves the selection of a card from the deck. The deck is shuffled, turned face up and dropped onto the face of the iPhone/iPod Touch/iThing. Their card appears on the face of the screen. Moreover, the deck is given to the spectator who’s asked to find the chosen card. They can’t. It’s gone from the deck.

The card guy then says we need to restore the the card to the deck, because without doing so, you have 51 real cards and one cyber card. The chosen card is then “pulled” from the iPhone/iPod Touch/iThingaMaJiggy(TM), and restored to the deck.

(Note: if you’re working with blue-backed Tally Ho fan backs, so much the better.)

I wanted something that blended the technology, but incorporated real cards as well. Chris’ app is good…I like “Harry” better. (Of course I would.)
Message: Posted by: samdan (Sep 24, 2009 01:37PM)
Is Harry available?
Message: Posted by: Steve Friedberg (Sep 24, 2009 01:40PM)
Samdan:
It's available on the App Store...you have to do some hunting for it. I found it by searching on iTunes, and found it more quickly than by searching via my iPod Touch.

Try this link: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=319864550&mt=8
Message: Posted by: samdan (Sep 24, 2009 01:55PM)
Thanks
Message: Posted by: pwolverine (Sep 25, 2009 08:06PM)
There could be a problem using hte new icons on Rising Card, I think apple has forced some developers to remove icons that are copyrighted by apple.

Other then that I think its a great app. Well worth the money, and apparently there might be a few updates coming for this app so it would eb well worth watching. There are lots of magic apps out now, its hard to know the good from the bad. This one is designed really well.
Message: Posted by: michaelmystic2003 (Jan 6, 2010 01:54PM)
Having performed this over a week or so daily, I've noticed one major problem.

iPod Touches are fairly common, especially in high school... The problem with this app is that it's clearly an app designed specifically for a magic trick... Others, like iForce, P&T Chat, and Spirit Writer are well disguised and do not raise suspicion. Therefore, Kenner's app gets the credit, not the performer.

Also, iPod users almost immediately say "Cool! What's that app called?" and many of them, some way or another, find out. End of mystery.
Message: Posted by: STM70 (Feb 3, 2010 02:06AM)
I bought the app and am enjoying it. Here is my concern though. Won't people think that the iphone/ipod is doing the magic and not the magician. My other magic app (iForce) let's me do the magic. So I guess what I'm asking is, how does the magician take the credit and not the iphone/ipod? Thanks.


P.S. I still love this app.
Message: Posted by: cinful823 (May 4, 2010 01:00AM)
Me too! I feel like this is a cool apps that the iphone does, not me! Can anyone give me some tips on performing this kind of magic?
Message: Posted by: J.Robert (Jun 2, 2010 05:58PM)
Just got this for my iPad yesterday. It's a great effect, but it doesn't look very good on the larger screen of the iPad. Does anyone know if this is going to be updated for the iPad?