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Topic: Using a pouch/ apron for strolling?
Message: Posted by: Comedy Writer (Nov 11, 2009 08:38AM)
Does anyone use a belt pouch or mutli-pocket apron for Cu and strolling? What size? where did you get it?
How do people respond to it?

thanks
Message: Posted by: WayneCapps (Nov 11, 2009 08:32PM)
Ahhh, oh I hate those things! To me, wearing pouches or an apron is like wearing a pocket protector or glasses with tape around them. I think they just scream "give me a swirly!"
Message: Posted by: leaycraft (Nov 12, 2009 03:12PM)
Well gee- I happen to use a leather pocket protector and have for over 20 years , I still carry a slide rule in a leather pouch. geecky yeah - but that's who I am. I also use a waist pouch - it works. I sort of take comments like "give me swirly" as subtle or not so subtle prejudice and that is what leads to harrassment.. I prefer when its said - that's not my style- or that dosen't work for me.
Message: Posted by: WayneCapps (Nov 12, 2009 08:15PM)
The swirly comment was just a figure of speech. To each his own but boy, they really don't work for me!
Message: Posted by: Jeff Dial (Nov 14, 2009 11:10AM)
I do and and don't. Use one in my Renaissance strolling, but not elsewhere. I'll leave it to the guys that use them, but it probably depends on what you are performing.
Message: Posted by: Wes Holly (Nov 17, 2009 09:21AM)
To me, it's an image thing. A full waist pocket apron doesn't look as professional (or I could say "upscale") as without. A side pocket that slides onto your belt is not so bad if you need a little extra carrying space.

Many magicians I know only carry 3 or 4 items when strolling, and so have no need of the extra space of an apron. They will usually have a small case tucked away somewhere if they want to change out the items for different ones.

If you are wearing a vest, a seamstress can add extra pockets on the inside. If you buy a vest from a tuxedo store, usually the alterations are either free or at a low cost.


Wes Holly
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Nov 21, 2009 04:38AM)
Consider your attire. If you work in a suit or a tuxedo, then a pouch is completely out of place. If you work wearing overalls, jeans or other "workingman's" clothing, then a pouch is okay. Pouches belong to the working man, like a carpenter's apron or a brickmason's apron.

The gibeciere is a part of a strolling conjurer's outfit, but it doesn't translate well to modern clothing. There was a rather ill-fated attempt several years ago to produce a cummerbund that functioned as a pouch. It really never caught on.
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Nov 21, 2009 06:48PM)
The Jimmy Talksalot pouch might suit your needs. It is less cumbersome than most and allows access to your jacket pockets easily.
Message: Posted by: ralphs007 (Dec 12, 2009 10:50PM)
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If you work wearing overalls, jeans or other "workingman's" clothing, then a pouch is okay. Pouches belong to the working man, like a carpenter's apron or a brickmason's apron.

Hi
I'm a carpenter, and I use my apron,all the time.It's like wearing a full view topit. I wish I could use it when I wasn't working !
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Dec 14, 2009 03:28PM)
I used this for table hopping at restaurants, working after proms, and strolling at corporate & church functions for years:

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/aitem.cfm?itemid=2

I still use it regularly to street perform.

It's a beautiful piece of craftsmenship and not too bulky. I wear it over my left thigh since I use my right front pocket more. I still have access to my left front pocket, but it's not as subtle/easy.

I think the Cellini Pouch would work also, but I've never seen one up close.

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/aitem.cfm?itemid=1

The Cellini Pouch might hinder access to both front pants pockets too much for many routine to look smooth. I don't know for a fact though, as I've not worked with it.

Magician's don't have to dress in any preconceived manner. Just as stand up comics, jugglers, or strolling violinists don't.

I personally wouldn't work a gig without my pouch (if I could help it).

Chad
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 16, 2009 08:38PM)
I use all my pouches for different gigs.
A lot of it depends on what I'm wearing.

If it's formal and I'm wearing a suit I would use the strolling pouch so it's not seen at all.

For an informal strolling gig I use the poacher's pouch linked to by chad.
If I'm doing more of a fair with lots of folks then I use a cellini pouch (or street pouch which is cheaper). It's great for billiard balls, etc, and keeping props close to your body and hidden, and not getting stolen.

I'm I'm doing a real street type performance then it's always the busker's pouch.
I would never use that for strolling. Too big.

I just had a "parlor pouch" made (not for sale yet) that is specifically meant to perform the cups and balls in a stand-up environment, parlor show, etc. Lightweight, smaller, no added outside pockets, cheaper, etc. Some thing to keep in your case so your act is ready to go at all times.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 22, 2009 10:40AM)
One of our club members uses both the Pro-carrier by Joshua Jay in tandem with Frank Starsini's "Strolling Pouch." He gives both 5 stars out of 5! I use cargo pockets, cell-phone cases, etc. to hold things, but just ordered a "Stolling Pouch" from Frank. Having seen one close up I was most impressed!

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Frank Russell (Dec 24, 2009 10:03PM)
The Cellini setup is nice. It's very simple and somewhat generic but it really packs a punch. Anyone who knew Jim would say that was his personality...simple and somewhat generic but he really packed a punch.

His servante was a bag in front and a bag in back. They are very user friendly. A vest is a great storage device too.
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Dec 24, 2009 11:18PM)
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On 2009-12-24 23:03, Frank Russell wrote:
The Cellini setup is nice. It's very simple and somewhat generic but it really packs a punch. Anyone who knew Jim would say that was his personality...simple and somewhat generic but he really packed a punch.

His servante was a bag in front and a bag in back. They are very user friendly. A vest is a great storage device too.
[/quote]When I met Cellini in Denver he had 2 pouches up front, 2 in back, & a lether scabbard for his scissors he used in "cut & restored rope." It was very obvious that he'd designed this himself for his own use & knew how to use it to his best advantage.
However, like Bill Palmer stated earlier, consider your enviornment & your clothing.
Jim Cellini was a "street performer," what is that you do? That's the key.

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: Leland (Feb 5, 2010 06:46AM)
I've never used a pouch. I always just take what I need in my pockets and leave the rest in a back office. When I want to switch my routines I just go back and switch out my props.