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Topic: Fantasio Silk Act
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Jan 3, 2010 04:11AM)
I don't have words to describe this video by my dear and respected amigo, Fantasio!
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 3, 2010 09:24AM)
This routine was put together for the first color broadcast of the Ed Sullivan show. I believe this may have been the same show the Beatles were on.

Also notice the use of Rice silks throughout the routine. Harold Rice certainly understood the use of color in his silks.

Guys should watch the Fantasio videos to realize the depth of knowledge and styles of performance that Fantasio is proficient at. He is much more than just candles.

BTW, I think it is deplorable that his products have been ripped off by foreign companies.

Message: Posted by: Jef Eaton (Jan 3, 2010 10:07AM)
I loved the act. The only thing I thought of was what a pain to load.

But that's why he was on Ed Sullivan and I wasn't!

Loved the dove loads using silks! A color explosion!
Message: Posted by: Rudy (Jan 3, 2010 10:59AM)
Loved the act too. Those were some beautiful silks.

Thanks for sharing.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 3, 2010 12:01PM)
I really don't think it is that bad to load. And the really nice thing is you don't need animal permits and such.

Message: Posted by: tnmagicgator (Jan 3, 2010 02:08PM)
That was sweet!!! He sure was a good looking young man. What is the name of the effect where a new silk drops from the bottom of the one he is holding? I don't ever recall seeing that done before. The effect where he ties the two black silks near his neck and produces the two fountain of silks was used by Channing Pollock to produce two doves.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 3, 2010 04:33PM)
Diminishing Silk Production by Eric Lewis and Harold Rice. Marvin Roy used it for years.

Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 3, 2010 04:58PM)
To add, the routine is from the book 'Capers with Colors' and can be purchased from the publisher Rice Silk King Studio (click the banner ad at the top of this section) and the Marvin Roy handle with additions/improvements can be found on his video sold by Stevens Magic.
Message: Posted by: Darkwing (Jan 3, 2010 09:14PM)
Had the chance to sit down and talk with Fantasio at the IBM convention. What a wealth of knowledge. The guy is just downright amazing. What a brilliant magical mind he has. What makes it even better is he a great guy. I wished I was his next door neighbor.

Bought his DVDs (along with other stuff) and I highly recommend them.
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Jan 3, 2010 10:44PM)
Fantasio is AWESOME!!
Richard: Yes,The candles and canes has been copied, but the quality never has been matched!

Jef: You are right, especially the last production, but lets think about Ade Duval! He was my hero!!!

tnmagicgator: Diminishing silks was used too by The Hamners in his beautiful bird act and always looks pretty.

Darkwing: Have the chance to talk with Fantasio is like chat with a magic encyclopedia, he is now living in Miami and I'm here in Puerto Rico but we have regular contact by email.

I hope you enjoy the video equal as me guys,
Your friend...
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 4, 2010 06:10PM)
When watching the Fantasio video, I just keep thinking why didn't he use his beautiful wife more in the production sequence.

With silk production now-a-days, there would have been a lot of confetti falling to the floor. The use of mechanical tables is very unique in this act.
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Jan 4, 2010 10:19PM)
Wmhegbli: You are right about the confetti! LOL
Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (Jan 11, 2010 05:53PM)
Hansel, you're right...Fantasio is awesome.....and as nice a guy as anyone would ever want to meet.

Regarding this trick.....Rice's Diminishing Silk Production is, in my opinion, an often overlooked classic of Magic, and often elicits "Ooooooohs" and "Ahhhhhhhhs" from the audience...it's that pretty and mystifying of an effect.

Richard Hughes points to Marvin Roy as another magician who also had a lot of commercial success, in part due to performing this silk trick.

Marvin Roy, like Fantasio, was also a smash hit on the Ed Sullivan show where he and Carol hit it big with their "Mr. Electric" act.

Marv made BIG BUCKS at the time on retainer for GE....but that's another story.....and a good one, at that!

Although I don't remember ever seeing him perform it on the Ed Sullivan Show, Marvin also did a "Marvin the Silk Merchant" act.....he put a lot of flourish, beautiful timing and showmanship in his magic performances.

Marvin's version of the Diminishing Silk Production was done with a lot of flash........a simple effect done beautifully because of Marvin's showmanship.

Today, George Saterial performs this trick as a staple in his act, and George also has a great set of lecture notes that details the types of silks he uses and how to fold them for this trick.

George's lecture notes for this trick are great and help add another dimension to the silk folds pioneered by Harold Rice and printed in Rice's Encyclopedia of Silk Magic.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 11, 2010 07:11PM)
Marvyn retired the silk merchant act when Mr. Electric was born. He incorporated pieces of it it in the Electric and Jewelry act.

Marvyn told me about 20 years ago that no one does silk magic anymore because they are just too lazy to fold the silks. He was right for the most part. Hard work still equals success and Marv and Carol were living proof.

I think George Saterial does one of the nicest version of the diminishing silks. I just cannot move like Marv to sell it the way he does.

Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (Jan 11, 2010 08:11PM)
For those of us who love and adore the art of performing magic, in reference to Marvyn Roy, here's a CLASSICAL MAGICAL VIDEO TWO OFFER.....take a look!


Message: Posted by: Anatole (Jan 11, 2010 08:36PM)
Thanks for posting the Marvyn Roy video from the Merv Griffin show. When Ed Sullivan's show went off the air, Hollywood palace, Merv's show and the Mike Douglas show were the best places to catch some of the true legends of magic. I remember Channing Pollock on the Douglas show when Liberace was the co-host. I wish someone like Bill McIlhany would get the rights to those appearances to put together an authorized video of the great acts of the 50's and 60's. International Showtime was another great source of classic magic performances.

----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 11, 2010 09:26PM)
I had a nice visit with Marvyn in LA in November. He explained in detail his vanishing floor lamp on a pole that used to be part of the Electric. It did not last long in the act.

Marv is still so full of energy and ideas. If you get the chance to be with him, listen and learn so much.

Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (Jan 15, 2010 10:58AM)
On 2010-01-03 05:11, Hansel wrote:
I don't have words to describe this video by my dear and respected amigo, Fantasio!

Wow Great Act! Love the ending with the huge Rabbit in Hat silk! Wonder how much a silk like that would cost today ?
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 15, 2010 12:48PM)
Roughly, about $2000 to $3000 dollars. One idea that helps in the cost is to use large solid silk and applique the 6' silk. I did this for Gilday on a butterfly silk for the Girl to Rosebush. That would save a bunch of money .

Message: Posted by: Jim Snack (Jan 20, 2010 10:40PM)
I had the pleasure of meeting Fantasio in Miami last Thursday night while I was in town for the Art Deco Festival. What a thrill to meet one of the magicians who inspired me as a teenager. Such a class act, and he still has a twinkle in his eye when he performs!

Message: Posted by: Leland (Feb 5, 2010 06:54AM)
He always has a class act. Candles or silks, he does it all and does it great.
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Feb 5, 2010 01:58PM)
Definitively, Fantasio IS a Class Act...A true Master!
Message: Posted by: Rainboguy (Feb 5, 2010 07:41PM)
Jim Snack:

You hit the nail right on the head when you made the comment, above........."he still has a twinkle in his eye when he performs!"

Isn't that the way that we magicians can TRULY tell if another magician loves the art of magic as much as we do.....because if he does....he will definitely have a twinkle in his eye!

Every great magician that I have ever met HAD A TWINKLE IN THEIR EYE WHEN THEY PERFORMED MAGIC!

Sounds corny, but a true statement.....

You know a magician really loves magic when they have a look in their eye like a little kid who just woke up on Christmas morning!

Fantasio has it........Marvyn Roy sure had it when I met him~!
Message: Posted by: SilkWant2Be (Feb 16, 2010 10:54AM)
On 2010-01-15 11:58, dlcmagic wrote:
On 2010-01-03 05:11, Hansel wrote:
I don't have words to describe this video by my dear and respected amigo, Fantasio!

Wow Great Act! Love the ending with the huge Rabbit in Hat silk! Wonder how much a silk like that would cost today ?

Fantasio said in the Hocus Pocus article that the silk bill for that act was $8000 and the Ed Sullivan people paid the bill. Eight grand in 1960's!
Message: Posted by: Regan (Feb 16, 2010 11:29AM)
I'm not sure when this Fantasio performance occurred. The heading says, "Fantasio Silk Act 1965". However, the beginning of the video clip says, "July 1967". I would think the 1967 date is correct because the first part his background music is an instrumental version of The Beatles, "My Michelle". They did not release that song until late 1965, or maybe early 1966. The Beatles first appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show in early 1964. They actaully appeared on the show for 3 straight weeks, but the first show on February 9 is the one that is most talked about. They also made an appearance in September of 1965. However, "Michelle" was not recorded and released until several months later.