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Topic: Zen's Ultimate Cards Across
Message: Posted by: Marcel.Allen.van.Bulck (Jan 4, 2010 05:39PM)
Hey, guys.

I recently purchased the book, "MY BEST" by J.G. Thompson pretty much just to learn "Zen's Ultimate Cards Across" (I had read about it in another forum here and thought it sounded interesting), but I find the instructions very confusing.

Is anyone else here familiar with the effect?
Message: Posted by: murf (Jan 4, 2010 09:20PM)
Across The Void, by Paul Hallas, has tons of information about a number of Cards Across routines, including Zen's. That's probably not what you wanted to hear, having just bought a book, but if you're interested in Cards Across, Paul's book is almost a "must have".

Message: Posted by: Marcel.Allen.van.Bulck (Jan 4, 2010 09:27PM)
I actually thought about buying that book. I may have to check it out.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Jan 5, 2010 02:42PM)
RE: " Paul's book is almost a "must have".

What do you mean, ALMOST? LOL.

As a consolation, "My Best" is a good book anyway, so you'll find other stuff in there you can use.

I don't have my copy of "My Best" in the USA with me to check, but I recall someone saying that the book had one of the best descriptions of the effect.

Marcel, I'll pm you.

Message: Posted by: Scott Fridinger (Jan 5, 2010 06:15PM)
You have to get Across the Void if you are interested in the Cards Across plot. I have worked up a more sleight intensive Zen type plot, one of these days I will finish typing it up, as I have promised to send it to some folks.
Message: Posted by: Marcel.Allen.van.Bulck (Jan 6, 2010 09:30PM)
Thanks to all.

I actually sat down with the book (MY BEST) for several hours and finally deciphered the method, and personally, I think it's brilliant.

This is bar-none the best variation on Cards Across I have seen, especially for those of us who are awkward at other various card sleights. I've already started working on some variations / presentation of the effect of my own.

Have any of you ever worked with this effect at all?
Message: Posted by: Scott Fridinger (Jan 7, 2010 11:51AM)
I have worked with this effect, and this is what I did not like about it.

1. It uses a stack of envelopes, yet you don't use all of them.

2. I wanted to be able to do the effect using a burrowed deck of any kind.

Now, the effect is great, and my opinions are purely personal. However, in order to accomplish what I wanted: only 2 envelopes, handed out (not really for inspection, just to have the props held by the spectators, which cause indirect inspection) and a burrowed deck, I had to add sleights.

If you are interested in discussing the effect in detail, working through issues you may have, etc, feel free to PM me. I do not have the write up from My Best, it was taught to me by a magician, but I think I may be able to help you work through the details if you would like.

I think the cards across is a great effect using a deck of cards. It is a magical effect that isn't a "pick-a-card", so to me it is different. Almost like it isn't really a card trick. I perform the version from Royal Road to card magic all of the time, and it kills. Adding the thought of selection is also great, and the Zen effect increases the size of the audience you can perform this effect for. I still think you could perform the Royal Road version for a large crowd, but I think the Zen version is better.