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Topic: Richard Kaufman: coin magic
Message: Posted by: dai_vernon (Apr 4, 2002 08:07PM)
Hey, I was just wondering, what is better about this book than Bobo. I'm kind of short on cash and I try and get the best coin book. So just tell me what you think.
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Apr 4, 2002 11:40PM)
They're different--you can't really compare them. It's like saying, what's better, a steak or a Chevy? Ok, that's a bit of a stretch, I'll admit...

The Bobo book is more encyclopedic, and it teaches the building blocks of coin magic followed by routines that use them, of all skill levels.

This book (Kaufman's) contains routines from many top-flight coin men, and many of the routines are EXTREMELY advanced.

If you only get one, get Bobo. If you don't already know the stuff in there, you won't be able to do the vast majority of the stuff in Coinmagic--in fact, you probably won't even know what they're talking about most of the time!

If you are already an advanced coin magician, then this book is well worth your attention. besides the large Roth section, the material by Sol Stone and Geoff Latta is particularly notable.
Message: Posted by: Fredrick (Apr 5, 2002 02:45PM)
Scott's advice is dead-on. I would second his comments. Bobo's-especially the hard back edition as opposed to the Dover edition-is foundational. Richard's book is one of your next steps.
Message: Posted by: Tony (Apr 5, 2002 07:39PM)
If you're just starting out get Bobo's book. It will give you an excellent foundation because it gives you EVERYTHING you want to know about coins. It starts out giving you a good foundation and then you can progress from there (it also includes advanced handling). Get the hard bound book (about U.S. $35.00), it's definitely worth every penny. FYI advanced coin handlers refer to the book from time to time.

Message: Posted by: NickW (Apr 6, 2002 12:42AM)
I've got and treasure the Dover edition of Bobo - is it worth trying to get hold of the hardback edition? What extra material does it include? (Not that I'm sure I can cope with much more than the Dover edition anyway - plenty to keep me busy there!)
Message: Posted by: Dan Watkins (Apr 6, 2002 01:00AM)

Read this thread...

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Message: Posted by: NickW (Apr 6, 2002 01:22AM)
There goes the bank balance again...

Thanks. I think. :bwink:
Message: Posted by: preston91 (Apr 6, 2002 10:01AM)
another place to look for digital format magic books is http://thelearnedpig.com.pa

Message: Posted by: Megatherion (Apr 16, 2002 05:09PM)

Are you interested in close up or stage magic?

If you like stage manipulation I would go for books by T. N. Down otherwise I would buy Bobo´s book. Make sure it is the complete one (not the Dover one).

Yours faithfully

:devilish: Dan Kirsch :devilish:
Message: Posted by: MichelAsselin (Apr 20, 2002 12:52PM)
Be aware that a fair bit of the material belongs in the I-am-sitting-to-perform-please-keep-your-head-at-this-angle school; killer stuff in the right circumstances, but sometime you will have to engineer the circumstances onto the spectators. The Latta stuff if great, so is of the Roth material. There is a killer Slydini bit as well.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Apr 21, 2002 06:23AM)
I'm on the side of the "angels", above:
Bobo is THE coin book.
Kaufman is what you might get after you have mastered some areas of Bobo.
The major problem with much of the Kaufman book is that it is one-on-one, seated, at a draped table, and very angly.
These are circumstances that you are unlikely to find in real-life performing.
Peter Marucci
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Apr 22, 2002 03:47AM)
Another book that should be consided is David Roth's Expert Coin Magic, though like Kaufmans Coin Magic, it is another step up.

A lot of magicians think of Roth's material as impractical, as you need to be seated. Admittedly some of the routines are like that, but that still leaves a whole lot of great commercial effects that can be used in a working situation.

I use his shell coins across almost every time I perform. I also use his Flurry rountine on a regular basis.

Regarding Kaufmans coin magic in your original question, it contains an absolute killer Copper/Silver/Brass effect using a purse by Geoff Latta, it is a masterpeice of construction and well worth checking out. Well worth the price of the book alone.

Hope this helps.