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Topic: Is this right?
Message: Posted by: magicmarie (Jan 25, 2010 10:49AM)
I've just joined my local magic club. It seemed a great group of people until I went to our holiday party. There the club officers were reserved the best table and allowed to go through the banquet line first. I have also learned that they get preferential seating at all clubs event's, lectures, and shows and that the Club President not only gets into lectures for free but gets a dinner with the lecturer and the tab picked up by the club. When questioned I was told that these perks were put in place to encourage other members to volunteer to hold offices and that without them they have a difficult time finding new people to serve. I think this stinks to high heaven and reeks of elitism. But then I am new to this magic club thing and maybe this is just how they run. Has anyone else heard of a club doing such things?
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Jan 25, 2010 05:16PM)
Nope...never heard of it. Our club considers each member to be no more, or less, valuable than any other member. Everyone is treated the same whether they are an "officer" or not. It's too bad when someone accepts an officer position and then feels they are entitled to things and that, somehow, they have become important. As I have always said, we are, after all, just a bunch of big kids playing tricks on each other!

Mark.
Message: Posted by: tabman (Jan 25, 2010 06:08PM)
Glad to hear that all rings are not like that.

Several years ago I was running the spotlight and a slide projector for Mark Wilson at the IBM Convention in Salt Lake City. I had set up front center in the balcony and some IBM VIPs and their significant others treated me rudely because they felt like I was taking their seats because their "rank" entitled them to those particular seats.

Like you say, just big kids having fun with tricks but some folks tend to take themselves too seriously.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 25, 2010 07:11PM)
Or as my dad would say..."They think their s*** does not stink but their farts keep giving them away".

Not all groups are like this. Hang in there.

Richard
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Jan 25, 2010 09:14PM)
Hah! Father knows best!!!

Mark. :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Eldon (Jan 26, 2010 11:45PM)
Magicmarie,
In our Ring (239) everyone is even steven but I do know of other Rings that are just as you described.
Message: Posted by: Peter Pitchford (Jan 27, 2010 11:02AM)
I'm sorry that happened to you. It does happen. Sometimes people lose sight of their purpose in any organisation and give in to their egos (a great example of this is in the government - they are our employees, they are supposed to serve the public - instead, they see it as a position of power - which is often abused).

Every club has its quirks. You go and contribute and work to make the club a better place for everyone. :)
Message: Posted by: Gordyboy (Jan 27, 2010 02:15PM)
I can understand the desire to try and attract volunteers, but to me that's not acceptable. But that's by the standards of our club.
I am just finishing off my second term as President of IBM Ring 92 - The Vancouver Magic Circle. As President, my feeling is that I am here to serve the club and it's members, and I am confident that the other members of our Executive feel the same way.
At our events where we have meals (annual Christmas Banquet, Installation Dinner, summer picnic, etc) I co-ordinate getting the tables served (usually trying to get tables with a majority of seniors fed first, taking care of special needs etc) and I am pretty much the last one to get fed. I do make sure I get good seating, just because I want to be close to the stage for hosting duties etc.., but the Executive are generally dispersed around the room.
Our Executive members do not get preferential treatment in other ways, we pay the same as any member for lectures etc.. We usually invite guest lecturers out for a meal afterwards and the club pays for the guest but we all pay our own way.
We have monthly Executive meetings, usually at a restaurant where we each pay our own tab, there is no cost to the club.
I'm sure that having preferential treatment as you describe would help attract volunteers, but in my opinion not for the right reasons and the commitment that some of them have to the club would be questionable.
Message: Posted by: Jim Stan Magic Man (Jan 30, 2010 08:43PM)
I tried to attend a meeting a couple of years ago and only 2 people in the club actually took time to talk with me and one other magician who was there for the first time. One was someone I knew from another club I belonged to. I drove over an hour to get there and they were very cold towards new people. I will not be making another trip to that particular group.

Jim