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Topic: Diamond silks origination
Message: Posted by: tropicalillusions (Jan 26, 2010 12:11PM)
First time I seen diamond silks applied to an effect was in a Jay Scott Berry Lecture. Where did the diamond silk cut originate from, who gets this credit. Will love to see how many credotors come out of this one? P.S. where is Jay scott berry now? creative fellow!
Message: Posted by: JNeal (Jan 26, 2010 12:22PM)
I seem to recall diamond cut silks being written about and used in Jean Hugard's books. circa 1940
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jan 26, 2010 12:28PM)
General Grant has been using homemade diamond silks for a long time.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 26, 2010 12:48PM)
Diamond cut silks are hardly a new invention. They have evolved over time to enjoy some major improvements.

In my silk import company (DoveLite Silk), the diamond cuts we import today are not much like the ones we did even four years ago.

At first they were cut from streamers and the "center corners" were not even across from each other. The edges were two different sizes. However the sides across from each other were equal.

Then we made diamond silks that looked more like kites. The sides at each end point were the same but there was a long end and a short end. This time the "center corners" were across from each other but not midway between the ends.

Today we accept the fact that cutting good diamond cut silks means a lot of wasted material but:

1. All 4 edges are the same size! It is actually diamond shaped.

2. The "center corners" are both across from each other and In the Center!

3. The cut is done so that the silk hangs like silk instead of a bath mat!

(The others go into a category silk importers call 75 cent silk.)

Please! Please! Please! Learn something else here that will save you money even on good true diamond cut silks.

All silks are measured by the hemmed edge and not diagonally or by appearance. At the top of this topic is a chart to help you.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=154888&forum=54&13

I still have retailers (even some we supply) that mislabel diamond silk sizes. The differences can be 4x the size and price.

There is no such thing as a 36" diamond cut silk! The cloth it would have to be cut from would have to be 51" wide. And that cloth is not available.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
SilkMagic@DoveLite.com
Message: Posted by: Regan (Jan 26, 2010 01:11PM)
I knew Bob would know!
Message: Posted by: tropicalillusions (Jan 26, 2010 02:22PM)
1940, Jean Hugard,, I will go with that one for the early times, So who do we think brought it back to life as far as sharing it with the magic community. And Bob thanks for the sizing references.