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Topic: May Be of intrest....Gaff tattoos?
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 10, 2010 11:12PM)
I come here from time to time, and mostly just read (lurk?) Anyway, thought this might be of interest. I think its pretty neat.
http://www.skin-collector.com
Message: Posted by: T-RAY (Mar 10, 2010 11:50PM)
I'll never forget finding a real tattooed human skin display at a NYC flea market. They wanted $1500 for it.....up walked Blondie and Penn--- Penn showed a great deal of interest in it. I handed it to him and moved on.......I wish I had bought it. I wonder if he did??? They used to remove the tattoos of dead men who were unidentified...in case someone came looking for them.
Message: Posted by: Danny Borneo (Mar 11, 2010 04:39AM)
I've seen some larger scale ones before, these are actually priced great. Just wish the pics were a bit more detailed so I could see them. Thanks for the awesome link though
Message: Posted by: willhunter (Mar 11, 2010 05:03AM)
Hey Josh, Thanks for posting!
Message: Posted by: MagiciennesUnlimited (Mar 11, 2010 09:33AM)
T-Ray, he bought it.
Message: Posted by: Todd Robbins (Mar 11, 2010 10:15AM)
Todd,
I doubt Penn walked up with the entire band Blondie. I think you meant Debbie Harry.

Michael Wilson wanted his skin removed when he died and to have it preserved. Instead, he mother had him cremated. After he died, I tried to get Dick Zigun to set up an urn of ashes as our blow-off at Sideshows by the Seashore. I wanted to put a light on it with a gobo and gel so that there would be a colored pattern on the ashes and we could bill it as the world's only tattooed cremains. Dick passed on the idea.

And yes, Penn did buy it. He also has the electric chair proported to be from Sing Sing, but that is another story.
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 11, 2010 10:42AM)
Well, Mike Wilson's mother might have been mad he tattooed his face? Shamefully I'll admit I'm lacking in many things, including sideshow lore, but do know Pat "Picture Machine" Martniouk tattooed him....One of the fastest tattooers ever, back when that was still a thing to brag about.
Message: Posted by: dave_matkin (Mar 11, 2010 11:38AM)
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On 2010-03-11 11:15, Todd Robbins wrote:
Todd,
I doubt Penn walked up with the entire band Blondie. I think you meant Debbie Harry.

Michael Wilson wanted his skin removed when he died and to have it preserved. Instead, he mother had him cremated. After he died, I tried to get Dick Zigun to set up an urn of ashes as our blow-off at Sideshows by the Seashore. I wanted to put a light on it with a gobo and gel so that there would be a colored pattern on the ashes and we could bill it as the world's only tattooed cremains. Dick passed on the idea.

And yes, Penn did buy it. He also has the electric chair proported to be from Sing Sing, but that is another story.
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I like it! If I ever get a side show set up - one that is good enough for you - then you can come and blow off somones ashes!
Message: Posted by: willhunter (Mar 11, 2010 03:39PM)
I discovered in my office, by mistake, that a bald cap wig left in dry, warm air for a period of time looks a lot like what you would think dried human skin looks like. I though the gaff makers might be able to use that to make something like this.

Also, aren't there antiquated books around bound in human skin?

If someone makes gaffs, does that make them a Gaffer?
Message: Posted by: willhunter (Mar 11, 2010 03:44PM)
There are books bound in human skin, and one is right up the hill from me.
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=52257
Message: Posted by: Todd Robbins (Mar 11, 2010 04:58PM)
Yes, Michael's mom was a devotely religious person who looked upon his tatoos as something akin to devil worship. One strange side note, when Michael dreamt and he saw himself in the dreams, he did not have tatoos.

Todd

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On 2010-03-11 11:42, BigJosh wrote:
Well, Mike Wilson's mother might have been mad he tattooed his face? Shamefully I'll admit I'm lacking in many things, including sideshow lore, but do know Pat "Picture Machine" Martniouk tattooed him....One of the fastest tattooers ever, back when that was still a thing to brag about.
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Message: Posted by: Freak Prodigy (Mar 11, 2010 05:00PM)
I think the tattoo work is pretty sub par, too modern also.

It's a cool art piece, but I don't think they make for believable gaffs.
Message: Posted by: T-RAY (Mar 12, 2010 02:20AM)
WOW! I never knew if he bought it or not! Todd, you are right...Debbie Harry :) ...I tripped out that she was there....then up walks Penn....Double bug out. I felt that he wanted it bad....I was looking for old vinyl LPs with funky beats on them at the time and the skin was too much for my blood. That flea market was always good......Todd could you ask Penn if he might part with that little item. It's been about 15 to 18 years since that day.....he's probably bored with it :)
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Mar 12, 2010 09:49AM)
My piercing company trains our apprentices using skin from a pork shoulder. Pig skin is amazingly similar to human skin in its appearance and how it reacts to piercing and tattooing. SOME tattoo shops use this method for training also. If preserved properly, tattooed pigskin could be seriously utilized as gaffed gaff tattoos.

Michaels dream: A looooong time ago I had a dream that my father had two black bars tattooed vertically on his chest. My dad has no ink in real life. FFWD to my sideshow career. One day I get up in the morning and yawn, stretch. I catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror. My Nippulini chest tattooes are streching upwards (vertically) and for a moment I saw my father in my face. Right then and there I realized I saw MYSELF in the dream! Some cultures believe themselves to dream of their tattooes even though they have none. They call it keeping their ink on the inside.
Message: Posted by: T-RAY (Mar 12, 2010 11:26AM)
Nipps, I'll pay you to tattoo some of that pig skin if you can preserve it to look real!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 11:34AM)
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Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 11:35AM)
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Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 11:36AM)
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Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 11:37AM)
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Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 11:42AM)
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Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 11:49AM)
Hope its not bad form to post a few pics on here.....This is stuff that's going to a convention with me, so its not on the site.........Its a fine line, theres making stuff look old, then theres people who want more modern stuff...
Message: Posted by: Kondini (Mar 12, 2010 12:41PM)
Talking of tattoos,,proberly the biggest collection of mobile tats will be motoring from Hullavington to and through Wootton Bassett on Sunday.

A few of us (10,000) Expected could be more, will be bikeing through the Town to show our respect for the armed forces. In batches of 500 at a time we will burn rubber on Mothering Sunday which will proberly upset a few old farts but the result should be 50,000 in the kitty for war victims charities.

So if you can make it to cheer us along the way, do come and show us support...or check your TV news and see this spectacle unfold.

21 miles of hairy bikers complete with their tats blocking the Wiltshire roads will be a one off stunt never to be repeated again.

Look for the VW Trike (That`s me) and don't forget to throw your cash.

Ken.
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Mar 12, 2010 12:42PM)
Josh, is that pigskin?

T-RAY, I do have some preserving materials, I just don't do tattoos. I could ask around, but I'm sure any tattoo artist worth his salt would want to be paid for the work just as if it's on a human.
Message: Posted by: Chance (Mar 12, 2010 04:32PM)
Roald Dahl wrote a wonderful story involving human skin and tattoos. Worth looking up if you haven't read it yet.
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 12, 2010 08:18PM)
Nippolini, All I can say is it is skin, and it is tattooed, not painted or anything....I'm quite invested financially as well as time wise into this..Everybody's got a few trade secrets? I'm trying to get some better pics, the stuff is real creepy when ya hold a jar and can see the back of the flesh, and the little bits in the preserving fluid!
Your right about a tattooer wanting to be paid for his work....I get paid well at work, but have some health problems, and want to be away from people more and more, I enjoy doing this. I started my prices pretty low, in some cases just covering materials, and a couple of bucks for time...I'll prob raise the prices after a few conventions, after people ca see it in person....And theres an album cover coming out in the next 6-8 weeks that I did that has something to do with all this....
Message: Posted by: willhunter (Mar 13, 2010 07:06AM)
Josh, Can they be displayed/stored wet like a pickled punk? Your mention of the "little bits" seems like a powerful sell to a Sideshow Museum Audience.
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 13, 2010 10:55AM)
Will, Yes sir!
Message: Posted by: abigkahuna/1 (Mar 16, 2010 01:24AM)
Sign me up for a gallon jar of Skin!
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 16, 2010 01:47AM)
Big Kahuna,
Garenz Ballberenz!
Message: Posted by: markthorold (Mar 20, 2010 04:58AM)
Smaller item ordered , the perfect item for a routine I had in mind .
Regards Mark
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 20, 2010 09:20AM)
Mark, got the payment. I also can do custom stuff too, when I have the time. I'll ship on Monday. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: lozey (Mar 30, 2010 07:19AM)
Wow, this stuff is so cool!
Message: Posted by: BigJosh (Mar 30, 2010 09:10PM)
Heres a quote from the Bizarre section of the forum by Mark Thorold.

"Guys ( and gals) ,I received in the post my best buy in a long time and felt that any serious collectors of the bizarre /weird/should check out what this guy has on offer . Ill add the site at the end of this but Ive just got to tell you all about my purchases .
I received in the post two glass jars containing preserved tattoos , The smaller of the two is what resembles a portion of skin taken from a finger ,with the word HATE tattooed in blue ink . The larger is a portion of skin from above the breast ( complete with a nipple I may add ) with a skull design . Both items resemble skin perfectly .
The tattoo is clear and obviously a tattoo ,not a pen drawing . The "chunk" of skin is housed in a glass jar , Below he top layer of skin you can see the hypodermis(subcutaneous adipose layer), which is not usually classified as a layer of skin but rather fatty tissue .
I collected the parcel at lunchtime today and showed my employer the items .He looked them over and said to me in in earnest "Mark ,I know you collect some odd things , but don't you think this is taking it a bit too far ?" . I have to say I was delighted at this ...lol
The guy is called Joshua . He had a thread on here but I cant find it at the moment .
His site is http://www.skin-collector.com
I thoroughly recommend his work . I believe he can do custom pieces too .

Here's an idea ... Imagine having on display the nazi insignia from the centre of Charlie Mansons forehead .( I know he hasnt passed yet , but it it will happen ) A unique and grizzly memento a prison gaurd took . Imagine having this on display at your seance . What foul and evil spirit would it evoke for the sitters .( A rare earth magnet hidden in the top of the jar would certainly trigger an EMF meter ).The use of custom pieces in the bizzare story telling arena are countless .
Get in touch with Josh , his communication as a seller is excellent , his goods are second to none ( and not overpriced ) .
you'll be delighted with his stuff.Ill definitely be ordering again soon .
Regards Mark"