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Topic: Dekranom
Message: Posted by: Roth (Apr 8, 2010 12:33AM)
Bill Cushman and I talked about a hardcover version some time ago. I think this may be the solution for owners of the W.A.

I'm going to throw this out there and see what you guys think.

When I sell an Ark of Astaroth it comes with a Witches Almanac with a slightly different cover.
Instead of having "The Witches Almanac" at the top, it has "The Dekranom"

It has the same Astaroth symbol under it. At the bottom it has "500 Inner truths"

Of course you owners know your WA has Dekaranom inside the book.


The WA has

The Witches' Almanac

Astaroth symbol

500 inner truths

The Dekranom would have

The Dekranom

Astaroth symbol (silver)

500 inner truths


It will be gold embossed and the Astaroth will be silver-all aged of course.

This would mean owners of the WA would have a Witches' Almanac spiral bound and a Hard cover Dekranom (witches' almanac)

Let me know what you guys think

Message: Posted by: JAlenS (Apr 8, 2010 07:48AM)
1 vote for Dekranom. :)
Message: Posted by: James Braund (Apr 8, 2010 08:20AM)
Had my eye on WA for some time so I'd buy a hardcover Dekranom in a flash.
Message: Posted by: MINDPSYCHIC (Apr 8, 2010 08:31AM)
Dekranom is my vote. I have a WA and use it almost daily. A hard cover Dekranom would give me a choice between the two- the witchy angle, or a ceremonial magic angle. A hard cover edition is an instant purchase for me.
Message: Posted by: dennfox (Apr 8, 2010 09:07AM)
Depends on who you are playing it for. With a more intelligent and educated crowd, I would play it as the Dekranom. With a more working class crowd. it would be the W.A.
Message: Posted by: dennper (Apr 8, 2010 09:34AM)
Where's the PayPal button? :)
Message: Posted by: Mogwai II (Apr 8, 2010 11:41AM)
I'd also love the Dekranom.

Just one thing: Maybe consider changing the font to a more "typewriter Style" font, that would increase the realism. Also the pictures in the WA look very "printed from a computer". Maybe there's a way to print them in a different way?

what do you think?
Message: Posted by: Roth (Apr 8, 2010 12:30PM)
The Dekranom cover font is not storybook like the W.A. it is almost a block style, very creepy.

Very "straight" looking font, nothing fancy. It's creepy.
Message: Posted by: spindoc (Apr 8, 2010 05:33PM)
Another vote for Dektanom.
Message: Posted by: skc417 (Apr 8, 2010 06:44PM)
Sounds good Rick, Dekranom would be awesome for us who already has WA.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Apr 8, 2010 06:45PM)
The Astaroth will be a deep red color. Should be on my site tonight.


Message: Posted by: necroloid (Apr 8, 2010 06:49PM)
So Roth, Cards in pocket or seperate? Just wonderin'.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Apr 8, 2010 07:03PM)
On 2010-04-08 19:49, necroloid wrote:
So Roth, Cards in pocket or seperate? Just wonderin'.
Cards in the Witch box :)
Message: Posted by: AltonThrash (Apr 8, 2010 07:23PM)
I really like the look of this piece. I already own the original but I am really enjoying the look of the hardcover pieces being put out.

Message: Posted by: Seth speaks (Apr 8, 2010 07:30PM)
The one small drawback might be that if anyone Googles the name, the first results are Roth's site and the Café... With WA that isn't a problem...

Agreed that it looks much more super cool though.
Message: Posted by: dennper (Apr 8, 2010 09:33PM)
Never understood why the Café wasn't search engine proofed- only takes a tiny adjustment the the html code.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Apr 8, 2010 09:40PM)
The web page is now The Witches'Almanac CE

There is no mention on the menu or the webpage of anything other than The Witches Almanac CE
Message: Posted by: JAlenS (Apr 8, 2010 10:26PM)
Rick, if I had a hero you would definitely be it.

That's a compliment.
Message: Posted by: MINDPSYCHIC (Apr 9, 2010 04:16AM)
The book looks amazing- just placed my order. A fine addition to my library- to be sure. Looking forward to receiving it.
Message: Posted by: The Curator (Apr 9, 2010 04:43AM)
It's an intertesting idea, but may be more interesting with an earlier datation (around 1910).
That's impossible for the spiral bound because spiral binding was in use around 1936 or a bit earlier. A "normal" binding may have been produced at an earlier date. That interests me, because I've an idea about a story around WWI. :)
Message: Posted by: necroloid (Apr 9, 2010 06:45AM)
I am sure Roth could make one special just for you, Curator. I am glad to know that spiral binding seems to be used as early as 1932 from my research. Now I am not as needful of the hard cover(Although I do plan on getting one in the future). I also dig the pockets in the WA.
Message: Posted by: dennper (Apr 9, 2010 12:43PM)
Yup - Spiral Binding (Co.) first opened its doors in 1932 as the first mechanical binding company in the United States and quickly became a leader in the wire binding field with the development of new and improved wire and equipment.

Although I think Hobb's might have had a leg up on this technology.

So I'm assuming WA CE is going to be a limited run? Trying to figure out my budget :)
Message: Posted by: Cybersloughter (Apr 9, 2010 06:03PM)
Would it be possible to get a HB version in the Ark in the future? Just wondering as the wife and I are still debating the merits of getting an Ark later this year. (It's a close debate)

Message: Posted by: StPaulMagician222 (Apr 9, 2010 11:45PM)
I really like my spiral bound WA even though I have only had a limited time with it so far. I am still perfecting it's language and MO. I plan to use it at a casual barbecue on monday. One person there will be an antique bookseller and also a Witch so it will be great to see if It passes under the radar screen. She will give me a little wink if she is on to me and enjoy with everyone else or else I'll get that wide eyed deer in the headlights gaze. That is one of my favorite moments in life. That feeling of total disbelief and wonder at the same time. If you could bottle it and sell that stuff.

I can see myself getting a hard bound copy sometime in the future as it would be much nicer for a more formal function. I really can foresee the potentials of this magical little tome.
The little spiral version looks so authentic, like it has been sitting in someones garage or attic with some minimal exposure to the elements. I know I will get a lot use out of this book as it is a perfect way to transition seamlessly right into a cold reading.


Message: Posted by: Cybersloughter (Apr 10, 2010 07:21PM)
My wire bound looks like it has suffered a little bit of water damage and after some time with some incense and some other, more interesting things, my copy has a fascinating and unique smell that reminds you of vanilla, smoke, incense and something else that you can't quite put your finger on.

I'm wondering if I can duplicate this on a HB version.

As for the deer in headlights, be careful. My wife bought mine for me as a birthday present, so she "knew" it was an effect, and it still made her break down crying the first time I performed this for her. I can never stress enough how hard hitting Rick and company's effects can be.

When I opened the box that had my WA, I finally felt like I truly had my first professional level piece of equipment, and the quality seems to improve as it ages.

My two copper again,
Message: Posted by: JAlenS (Apr 12, 2010 11:16PM)
Had to order. When I got the original it was so good that I thought the ONLY way it could be better is if it was in the form of an old and slightly tattered hard back. When are they scheduled to ship?
Message: Posted by: Roth (Apr 12, 2010 11:37PM)
Dekramon starts shipping next week. The Astaroth symbol will also be a deep red color. It will look wicked.
Message: Posted by: Hugo (Jun 13, 2010 07:09PM)
Has anyone received the hardback Dekranom or are these still on backorder?
Message: Posted by: JAlenS (Jun 13, 2010 09:53PM)
There is no backorder at outlaw. I'm sure Rick will chime in with an update pretty soon. Ya gotta know Hugo, if the stuff aint right, Rick won't ship.

Anticipating mine with a witch box :)
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jun 13, 2010 11:52PM)
Dekranom are starting to ship this week. Feel free to PM me and I'll give you the ship status.

Message: Posted by: teaguejb (Jun 18, 2010 12:23AM)
Just got mine. This is my first piece from Outlaw. Super-impressive.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jun 18, 2010 12:46AM)
On 2010-06-18 01:23, teaguejb wrote:
Just got mine. This is my first piece from Outlaw. Super-impressive.
Thank you. Dr. Bill suggested we do a hardcover version of our Witches' Almanac and I'm very happy with the Collectors edition.

Message: Posted by: LarsRuth (Jun 18, 2010 02:58AM)
Too bad, I already bought the spiral bound version...
Message: Posted by: PROF BC (Jun 18, 2010 08:47AM)
The WA/Dekranom figures prominently in the 'ultimate' routine ("Season of the Witch") forthcoming in the IPSWICH performance manual--due out in a matter of hours.
Message: Posted by: dennper (Jun 18, 2010 09:04AM)
Welcome to the club teaguejb!

You might as well just set up automatic withdrawal payments now from your checking account directly to Outlaw. It will save you time in the future :)
Message: Posted by: dennfox (Jun 14, 2011 05:05PM)
Just received a package in the mail. I opened it and it was the DEKRANOM-Collector's Edition. Wow! Incredible look! So glad I got it in hard cover. What an fabulous cover color. Reeks of old age! Man! So Awesome!
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Jun 14, 2011 10:01PM)
There is a rumor going around that mine is shipping very soon! :)
Message: Posted by: Mr.Mystico (Aug 30, 2011 09:24PM)
Can someone give me a shout-out about this (or email me?)... just got my hard-cover edition, and have it figured out, except for how the left page figures in? Any help on that?


Message: Posted by: DrRob (Sep 8, 2011 07:26PM)
Can someone answer a couple of questions please, Does it come in the box and is it essentially the spiral version in hardback form.
Would it play as well as the spiral version?

I look forward to your replies, if its yes to both then one will be making its way across the pond to the UK.

Warmest Regards
Dr Rob.
Message: Posted by: necroloid (Sep 8, 2011 07:38PM)
It is the same as the spiral one. Unlike Luna, where I believe the spiral bound versions look more institutional(thus better), I think the spiral version is just as good as the hard cover Dekranom.
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Nov 21, 2011 11:39PM)
WOW! I got my Dekranom today! Heck that was fast! The pages were still slightly damp from the tea bath. LOL

Yes, I really like it. I was about to sit down and LEARN this bad MO-FO but decided that I better post about it FIRST!

I will place the cards at different places in the book as book markers. I like the numbers on the cards. So sneaky!

I handed it to my wife and asked her how she liked my new book. She said, 'NEW? It looks a hundred years old!" That was cool. LOL

This would look good in the Hobbs box. I have a few things in my mind that I want to get next and the Hobbs is one of them.

Great work. This thing looks really good. I am very HAPPY!

It looks just as it SHOULD! Wonderful!

Message: Posted by: Cunningham (Sep 14, 2012 07:30AM)
I got my Dekranom and Deck of Carnie Tarot Cards today and all I can say is FANTABULOUS! These are so beautiful and so real looking and so gosh darn clever!!!
Thanks a ton Rick, these are going into my Halloween Show "Dark Carnival" and they will kill! These are perfect for this spooky time of year. The Collectors Edition is exactly that!! Highly recommended!!!!
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Sep 14, 2012 10:03AM)
Get some samples of all the minerals and leave you spectator with something to take home with them.

Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 14, 2012 10:31AM)
I like that idea.
Message: Posted by: jglumley (Sep 12, 2013 02:43PM)
Designed a quick tester for Dekranom to build your confidence. The password is the outlaw forums passcode for the owners of the effect.


Password = outlaw forum passcode
Message: Posted by: Brynmore13 (Sep 13, 2013 04:20AM)
Thanks Jglumley, I look forward to giving this a go.