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Topic: Alakazam presents "Biokinesis" by Berk Eratay
Message: Posted by: russ stevens (Jul 23, 2010 07:03AM)
Hello Everyone,

I've just shot and edited a new project for Alakazam called "Biokinesis" by Berk Eratay.

I often hear that there's nothing new in magic. Well, watch this and enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5_uL5f4v8

Best,
Russ
Message: Posted by: Tony Curtis (Jul 23, 2010 07:11AM)
Russ, It looks very good.

Tony Curtis
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Jul 23, 2010 07:12AM)
That is mental! Love it!

Jamie Daws
Message: Posted by: Tony Curtis (Jul 23, 2010 08:09AM)
Check out Russ Stevens website.

http://www.rsvpmagic.com

Tony Curtis
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Jul 23, 2010 08:20AM)
If this is "practical," it should sell like hotcakes.
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Jul 23, 2010 09:10AM)
I saw this in person at Blackpool, this is just an awesome effect ! I saw this over & over again looked very practical.

I have just spoken to Peter Nardi at Alakazam. this is totally practical & am so glad Peter finally pusuaded Berk to finally get him to release Biokinesis! I can see this selling out everywhere & will be in high demand.
The Possibilities of mind reading effects, hypnotism etc.
This will be out very very shortly & can only be pre ordered from Alakazam. I ordered straight away.

Thanks Berk

Best Wishes

Mark Southworth
Message: Posted by: Tony Curtis (Jul 23, 2010 09:28AM)
Peter Nardi just called me here in Bangkok and said he was delighted to have this coming out.

Tony Curtis
Message: Posted by: deputy (Jul 23, 2010 09:51AM)
Wow Looks great
Message: Posted by: Prager (Jul 23, 2010 09:55AM)
Looks incredible!

Posted: Jul 23, 2010 11:02am
Inner Mind Productions Are Proud To Present Berk Eratay's BioKinesis

It's time of open your mind to the power of BioKinesis…

What is Biokinesis?

Biokinesis is the ability to use kinetic energy to rearrange or control the genes in your own body. So if you mastered Biokinesis would it be possible to genetically reprogram yourself? The answer, in theory, is yes!

This is one of the most astonishing things you will ever see: Imagine that you are performing your favorite effect and at the key moment you ask your spectator to stare into your eyes. Your eyes close as if you are falling in to a trance and when you open them again they have turned completely white! That’s right – your eyes have totally changed colour!!

Believe me this will freak out even the most cynical of spectators. And then whenever you choose, you can close your eyes, come out of the trance and your eyes are totally back to normal! You really have to see this in action to understand how amazing this actually looks. It’s like a special effect done live! And unbelievably, it can be instantly repeated.

Berk Eratay's original version of Biokinesis helped him win the title of Uri Geller's Phenomenon in the Turkish version of the TV show. He spent over 8 years developing and refining this incredible effect and with the help of a top eye surgeon Berk has created the perfect custom made gimmicks to apparently achieve the impossible.

In developing his effect Berk tested well over 200 prototypes until he was 100% satisfied that the gimmicks were perfect in every way. The gimmicks you will receive are the very same design that won Berk title of The Phenomenon.

Berk’s highly-original Biokinesis effect with allow you to change the colour of your eyes at will and more importantly instantly change them back to normal.

On the DVD Berk covers every aspect of his method, which includes:

• The correct set up.
• The proper care of the gimmicks.
• Full handling details, including the tips and tricks he has mastered over 8 years and thousands of performances!
• Full instructions on activating and deactivating the gimmicks during any performance.

This really is one of the most original & astounding things you will ever see. It was the talk of MindVention 2008 and this is the first time Berk has ever revealed the full secrets behind this miracle.

Full Instructional DVD and precision engineered custom gimmicks are included.



* FOR ADULT USE ONLY. IN PURCHASING BIOKINESIS THE PURCHASER ASSUMES AND ACCEPTS ALL RISKS RELATED TO ITS USE AND ALAKAZAM MAGIC ACCEPTS NO LIABILTY FOR ANY MIS-HANDLING OR MIS-USE. FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 23, 2010 10:10AM)
Ive loved this since I saw berk do it at blackpool years ago. so original and somthing I do if I want to have a high impact on my clients
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Jul 23, 2010 11:01AM)
This looks awesome!! How safe is this though?
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 23, 2010 11:06AM)
I wouldn't sell it to a minor and there will be some people who just don't want to do it but ive been doing it for around 2 years now and With proper care its safe. Well as safe as yo want to make it. I love the effect
Message: Posted by: Steve Haynes (Jul 23, 2010 11:08AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-23 09:20, Larry Davidson wrote:
If this is "practical," it should sell like hotcakes.
[/quote]

No doubt!

This looks stunning!
Have someone think of a word,card,whatever and then say the eyes are the gateway to the soul as you tell them to stare into your eyes as you seem to try to extract their thought,then all of a sudden your eyes turn white and at that very moment you name their thought.
The eyes turning white would represent the precise moment the thought transference occurred.

If this is safe and works for everyone with no irritation,i will be one of the first to get this.

S
Message: Posted by: Daniel Lander (Jul 23, 2010 12:37PM)
I'm guessing contact lens wearers will have an issue with this?
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Jul 23, 2010 12:44PM)
Link - preorder.

http://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-BioKinesis-By-Berk-Eratay.html
Message: Posted by: lunatik (Jul 23, 2010 12:54PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-23 13:37, Daniel Lander wrote:
I'm guessing contact lens wearers will have an issue with this?
[/quote]

or if someone has a problem putting in contact lens, prolly not good. I have a hard time just putting eye drops in lol


the effect looks awesome though!!!!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jul 23, 2010 06:43PM)
DOes look great. Wish I could use something like this. I could if I could put something in my eye also. Darn it.
Message: Posted by: takeachance (Jul 23, 2010 07:03PM)
No way I can put contact lens in so if it means putting in some type of lens I'd think they probably should let you know as many will have a problem with this. otherwise it looks good.
Message: Posted by: cpbartak (Jul 23, 2010 07:29PM)
This looks like it will be a great add-on to a number of effects, and it also looks to be a very unique principle in mentalism. congrats!
Message: Posted by: simon hughes (Jul 23, 2010 07:52PM)
That is some crazy visuals! I'm a big fan of really messing with peoples minds and really psyking them out and this is a dead cert for me. I am going to get on it, perfect for me.

Si
Message: Posted by: VcosNJ (Jul 23, 2010 08:07PM)
Yeah I wonder what would happen to those who wear contacts already. Will it interfere? Otherwise it does look great.
Message: Posted by: dand243 (Jul 23, 2010 08:54PM)
My eyes are real sensitive too so if it has something to do along those lines it would be good to know up front.
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Jul 23, 2010 10:43PM)
Is it possible to have two color changes and then back?

I guess not but nothing is lost in asking...
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Jul 24, 2010 12:34AM)
Whoa...this blows me away...
Message: Posted by: roblane (Jul 24, 2010 03:06AM)
This looks amazing. I've pre-ordered , just hope it's not too difficult or risky to get in & out
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 24, 2010 06:25AM)
Hi guys and girls

You are all knowledgable magicians and mind readers, Biokinesis is achieved the way you'd probably expect.
You are using your eyes and as a result you'll have to get near them. I have wanted to learn this for years after seeing Berk do it again and again with no reset or apparent preparation. You could with the correct training perform this almost at anytime.

The supplied gimmicks are custom made, they are NOT the type available in the public domain. In order to achieve this effect Berk went through many many prototypes and for the effect to be safer and more controllable.

You can change from your natural colour to white and then back again. Berk is the Master at this and can do multiple changes, but that is for later, this product is the start. Berks skill and technique is fascinating. He is a great teacher and has taught me.

Like anything where eyes are concerned you HAVE to be careful, hygene and knowledge is so important. Trying to do this with regular street brought gimmicks can genuinely be dangerous and the effect the way Berk performs it is impossible to do without his custom designed gimmicks..

http://vimeo.com/13594871
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 24, 2010 06:31AM)
Valid points marc
Message: Posted by: gitty (Jul 24, 2010 07:23AM)
WOW - creepy effect!!!!

Asking again ... can I do this trick if I am already wearing contact lenses?
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Jul 24, 2010 08:13AM)
As one of the lucky guys that I 've seen Berk perform it both Live and on the Turkish Phenomenon, I can tell you that this is a phenomenal effect with a huge impact.
This is a talk of the town (or country, or planet) type of effect.
Bests,
Titanas

p.s: Nice video Marc, good job.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 24, 2010 08:33AM)
Sorry guys problem with the link..

Hopefully this one works?

Biokinesis Trailer 2.. http://vimeo.com/13594871

MS
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Jul 24, 2010 09:08AM)
I'm also a contact lens wearer, and I hope it's still possible to do it, however I don't think it is.

maybe make prescription ones so even us sight challenged guys can use it I'm not about to start wearing glasses again
Message: Posted by: insight (Jul 24, 2010 09:09AM)
Great job, Marc!

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 24, 2010 10:01AM)
You wouldn't be able to do this if you are wearing contact lenses.. Just need to clear that up, I guess it depends on how your eyesight is without contacts, some people need them just for reading but I know others cannot see at all 'literally' without them..

MS
Message: Posted by: Glossolalia (Jul 24, 2010 11:26AM)
Marc,

While I've previously enjoyed other things you've been involved in, I think you've got it wrong with this one. While the concept is cool (it takes the fakir and carnival body stunts to a different level), the problem with this is that there is absolutely no logical disconnect whatsoever.

If your eyes changed colour as you watched them, well that would be something, but they don't. I suspect once your average lay person has got over the shock, their final conclusion will probably be 'I wish I was as good at getting my contact lenses in place' rather than 'wow his eyes just changed colour'.

I'm looking forward to the release of 'Digit - Amaze everyone as you grow an extra finger in front of their eyes'
Message: Posted by: Havens (Jul 24, 2010 11:57AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-24 12:26, Glossolalia wrote:
Marc,

While I've previously enjoyed other things you've been involved in, I think you've got it wrong with this one. While the concept is cool (it takes the fakir and carnival body stunts to a different level), the problem with this is that there is absolutely no logical disconnect whatsoever.

If your eyes changed colour as you watched them, well that would be something, but they don't. I suspect once your average lay person has got over the shock, their final conclusion will probably be 'I wish I was as good at getting my contact lenses in place' rather than 'wow his eyes just changed colour'.

I'm looking forward to the release of 'Digit - Amaze everyone as you grow an extra finger in front of their eyes'
[/quote]

I can see exactly where you're coming from but I think it's one of those things that comes down to performance. This is what stops us from being people who simply buy tricks off the net and makes us performers. This is the kind of effect that needs to be made your own, if you're not inspired then it's probably not for you and I wish more people could show a similar restraint when a new effect comes out. I've already thought of ways I can incorporate this into my act, as I try to do with everything I buy. Unfortunately often an effect has limitations that prevent it from being practical and I really hope this isn't the case here.

One question I do have Marc, the description says it can't be set up hours before use but what about after it's used? Can you continue to perform with normal eyes after, or will the gimmicks need to be taken out. Also is there a possibility of your eyes going white again after the effect has been performed, without you wanting them to?

My only disappointment is that it's a month away - any chance of getting hold of it sooner?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 24, 2010 12:03PM)
Everyone has an opinion and I fully respect yours my friend.. I love the effect and have seen the reactions this gets. I think some people will definitely think what you've mentioned but I think that applies to mind reading and magic on the whole.

Like Eugene Burger once said 'I doubt many laymen think the ball actually appeared under the cup by magic, more that the magician sneakily put it there.'

For me this is about the image and artistry of the image I can create for my audiences. I would be alarmed if people really thought I changed my eye colour or indeed read their minds or really bent spoons with PK..
Most don't think that but accept the entertainment value and like that moment of suspended disbelief.

I can assure you most logical laymen when having watched a mind reading act don't actually think they have had their minds read, more that the mind reader used other elements to create that illusion or that David Copperfield really walked through the great wall of China. I understand that your statement is true in some cases but the same applies to a levitation.. 'Oh it looks good but it's just a string or wire I can't see..' But we still do them as it is inherently entertaining..

I'm glad you enjoyed my previous releases though and hope you enjoy others in the future. I have no doubt that this effect is not for everyone but Berk Eratay's creation is amazing and to see him do it is compelling.
We want Berk Eratay to receive the acknowledgement he deserves for creating an 'illusion' which is so original.

MS
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jul 24, 2010 12:07PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-23 08:03, russ stevens wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I've just shot and edited a new project for Alakazam called "Biokinesis" by Berk Eratay.

I often hear that there's nothing new in magic. Well, watch this and enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5_uL5f4v8

Best,
Russ
[/quote]

Than was spooky. I would imagine it would have a dramatic impact when performed.
Message: Posted by: cpbartak (Jul 24, 2010 12:16PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-24 12:26, Glossolalia wrote:
Marc,

While I've previously enjoyed other things you've been involved in, I think you've got it wrong with this one. While the concept is cool (it takes the fakir and carnival body stunts to a different level), the problem with this is that there is absolutely no logical disconnect whatsoever.

If your eyes changed colour as you watched them, well that would be something, but they don't. I suspect once your average lay person has got over the shock, their final conclusion will probably be 'I wish I was as good at getting my contact lenses in place' rather than 'wow his eyes just changed colour'.

I'm looking forward to the release of 'Digit - Amaze everyone as you grow an extra finger in front of their eyes'
[/quote]

I agree--if presented on it's own as an effect of "Hey, I can change my eye color, wanna see?" However, I believe the real power of this effect is as a beautiful metaphorical convincer within the context of a larger effect, where you aren't going to explicitly state verbally what happens with your eyes. For instance, imagine a seance where you are to channel a dead relative of a sitter, changing your voice, posture, etc., to match this person and allow the spirit to manifest in you. While this main effect is occurring your eyes go white. The effect isn't that you changed your eye color, it's that you took on these characteristics of someone else. The eye color change is just a powerful metaphor to signal to your client that "something otherworldly is happening," to help put the performance over the top. The effect isn't "How did he change his eyes?" here. Indeed, if your performance is well done and you are able to tap into a lot of things about the dead relative, the sitter likely won't even care about how you changed your eye color, it will just help make the whole experience more impactful for them.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 24, 2010 12:16PM)
The whole process requires training, Berk filmed with us for the whole day without ever having the white eyes. He could do it on command and at times even though I was with him the whole day I'd forget he had them in.

The waitress served our food and Peter Nardi told her to look at Berk he closed his eyes and opened them and she practically screamed as he revealed his 'Biokinesis' effect..

For the record Berk mentions on the DVD that he has been set up constaintly for 16 hours and I believe him as he was set up with us all day which was a 10 hour shoot.

You can control them not to appear but you have to train muscles that are not used to doing what you want them to do. It's like asking if I could run a marathon tomorrow, the answer to that is NO WAY ;-)
BUT if I trained I could quite easily.

It isn't self working and it takes work but I believe the effect warrants the effort if it is your sort of effect..

MS
Message: Posted by: hoodrat (Jul 24, 2010 01:04PM)
[quote]
I have a hard time just putting eye drops in lol

[/quote]

Me, too! I don't know how contact-lens wearers do that. I also have a hard time swallowing capsules and large pills whole. What's wrong with us? hahaha
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 24, 2010 01:39PM)
Well this looks awesome! since I am a fanatic of those type of things. I guess my only question is wether I can have them on all day, without accident. If so then I am sold!!!!
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 24, 2010 02:19PM)
Question answered above my friend.. But it does take practice..
But like you I'm a fan of this type of effect..

Best

MS
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 24, 2010 02:38PM)
Its a bloomin grand effect.
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Jul 24, 2010 02:46PM)
I agree all effects take time to practise, for me the effect looks like real magic played out in the right way as Marc has already explained. This is a reputation maker for sure & to me worth the time & effort to learn as Marc has.

Great demo Marc !

Best Wishes

Mark Southworth
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 24, 2010 02:48PM)
I must agree
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 24, 2010 03:22PM)
I'm here to help you...
If you already using lens in future we must think to build customized ones with numbers...

I can change upto 2 colors which is a really hard learning process.
What we teach is only controlling upper eye lid muscles controling both down and up is another story.

It do takes me 8 years to find all this methods step by step but you'll quickly learn it since I give you the most accurate info. And I'm sure as my name some other people will add some methods in near future which I didn't realized.

U can also ask me, but for me this is not a trick but an utility move like a double lift...

A powerful arsenal if you practice a lot, but if you do not spend enough time and give up it'll be just contact lenses.

Bear in mind that in asian cultures full white eyes is a symbol of immortality, so they generally take this really serious!
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Jul 24, 2010 03:28PM)
I saw berk do this at a tabula mentis meeting quite a while back now..it does look, in the flesh, absolutely stunning...

its not something that would suit me, being myopic and so on, but I can't help but feel that an extra adaptation of this effect would be to release it with other "gimmicks", ones that are just a few shades up/down from your own natural colour...i think that would be more realistically spooky (if you pardon the clumsy expression)...

so as you pluck that thought out of the person's mind...just for a moment, while you are in that zone...your eyes darken, or grow a few shades lighter...rather than a complete and utter change...

but full marks for something very creative, obviously workable, and just plain odd...
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 24, 2010 03:53PM)
It was one of the most original and creative things I have saw in a long time.
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 24, 2010 04:01PM)
And you're my favorite Scotchish Alan :)
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 24, 2010 04:03PM)
Yeah well I think I'm on board with this. This is something right up my ally, and I agree with Berk to look atthis asa Utility move, not an actualy effect Imagine doing a mentalist routing explainging things but miss calling names or right prediction then saying I wasnt deep enough in your mind let me try again, this is a level I don't like to get too to often because it scares even myself so please don't be startled. (DO THE MOVE) reveal the the name and go back.. Almost like how you would act after doing a Balducci levetation. I AM LOVING THIS THE MORE I THINK OF IT!!!

THis is a website I go too through out the year for halloween and I don't think I will need to this year if I get this.
http://www.9mmsfx.com/lenses.html
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 24, 2010 04:11PM)
Your right. Haloween is coming up and this will be a cracking effect to do. Even if you dress up as a vampire and change ur eyes now and again... ooh this is gonna rock
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 24, 2010 04:39PM)
Lol yeah when is release date? Cause if its going to take practice and muscle training I need to get on it.... Also even had a thought, I am a combat arms instructor and there are times where I have to say some things verbatim that would normally be hard to memorize. ANyone seen Old School, with Will Farrel? Well the scene where he blacks out and starts to give all the right answers, then he snaps out of it takes a deep breath and says "What Happend?" imagine that scene but with the eyes going white.. LOL Is Alakazam the only ones with the Pre-Orders?
Message: Posted by: Bernardo Rodriguez (Jul 24, 2010 04:54PM)
No
http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/biokinesis-by-berk-eratay-and-inner-mind-productions-–-preorder-p-11418.html

I am very curious about this one... I already have a natural serious face so this would make people scream =]
I'll wait though...

Bernardo Rodriguez
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Jul 24, 2010 05:03PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-23 13:54, lunatik wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-23 13:37, Daniel Lander wrote:
I'm guessing contact lens wearers will have an issue with this?
[/quote]
or if someone has a problem putting in contact lens, prolly not good. I have a hard time just putting eye drops in lol

the effect looks awesome though!!!!
[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing. My guess is that its some form of eye-c**. (Which, btw, are very very old :P) I can't wear contacts cause of my blink reflex. I'm sure this is out,too.

Nice way to startle someone in close though :)

I bet if you could do a version that changed to cat-eye pupils and back again you could sell em in droves...
Message: Posted by: gjmagic (Jul 24, 2010 05:19PM)
I saw this at Blackpool, really freaky and just perfect for those moments when you want to "steal a thought" from the spectator! This will be the talking point for the spectators long after the usual 'pick a card' tricks, absolutely stunning.

Gary Jones.
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 24, 2010 05:22PM)
I have over 30 designs in my arsenal but only one for you now :).
Yellow cat eyes one of them. :)
Message: Posted by: Lord Of The Horses (Jul 24, 2010 05:41PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-24 18:22, Berk.Eratay wrote:
I have over 30 designs in my arsenal but only one for you now :).
Yellow cat eyes one of them. :)
[/quote]

Berk,

Lovely visual effect! ;)

Do you happen to have the white / silver eyes (with no pupil showing) or the spiral eyes?

If you plan to release one or both of them in the future, then I'm all ears (and eyes)!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Lander (Jul 24, 2010 05:51PM)
As a sometime-wearer of contact lenses, I'm used to sticking dirty great discs of hard material in my eyes, so I have taken the plunge.

I see this as a tool to help you make an astonishing moment of theatre in your performances. Thank you Berk, thank you Marc, thank you Inner Minds.
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Jul 24, 2010 06:03PM)
How long do the "gimmicks" last?
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 24, 2010 06:03PM)
@Horse Lord
I got very special one which is actual mirror.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 24, 2010 08:25PM)
Berk although I imagine it impossible to do with Full Sceleras that would be awesome but I think I know the Mirror ones you speak of, at least the ones I have seen that are just contacts are pretty pricy you must really love them.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 24, 2010 09:11PM)
I have a pair of cat eyes and they are not good. The design rotates and looks a bit off.
Your idea and performance are absolutely stellar on Biokinesis. Fantastic.
James


[quote]
On 2010-07-24 18:22, Berk.Eratay wrote:
I have over 30 designs in my arsenal but only one for you now :).
Yellow cat eyes one of them. :)
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Jul 24, 2010 10:02PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-24 18:22, Berk.Eratay wrote:
I have over 30 designs in my arsenal but only one for you now :).
Yellow cat eyes one of them. :)
[/quote]
Cool.... those would make me consider trying to train myself to contacts :)

[quote]
On 2010-07-24 22:11, Xiqual wrote:
I have a pair of cat eyes and they are not good. The design rotates and looks a bit off.
[/quote]
They solved the rotation problem in regular contact lenses for astigmatism by effectively weighting the lenses so they float to the proper orientation.
Message: Posted by: Bernardo Rodriguez (Jul 25, 2010 12:03AM)
Is there no way to have a one way contact lense piece so that you can have you entire eye look white no black showing... (doesn't sound to crazy of an idea with all the new technology and stuff in the world lol)


Bernardo Rodriguez
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 25, 2010 01:02AM)
Wow!
Thank you for that info. I of course bought the cheapo wildfire lenses. VERY uncomfortable.
James
ps
I just put in my order at Hocus Pocus.

[quote]
On 2010-07-24 23:04, Cyberqat wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-24 22:11, Xiqual wrote:
I have a pair of cat eyes and they are not good. The design rotates and looks a bit off.
[/quote]

They solved the rotation problem in regular contact lenses for astigmatism by effectively weighting the lenses so they float to the proper orientation.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 25, 2010 01:12PM)
@bernardo: There is a version of the current one which have an eye sight as a needle hole you barely have eye sight but that is what you want
@paisa23: I may join
@Fairmagic: U may talk to nicholaifredrich, I'm planning to come there for a master class including extra materials and some other stuff by me but mainly focused on eye thing!
Message: Posted by: ELDEMONIO (Jul 25, 2010 04:21PM)
Are other colors possible or supplied? This is extraordinary I'm so excited for this thank you so much for this contribution!!!
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 25, 2010 04:25PM)
In future there is a possibility of that.
For now we just give you the tool of undead :)
Message: Posted by: JCheng (Jul 25, 2010 04:45PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-25 01:03, Bernardo Rodriguez wrote:
Is there no way to have a one way contact lense piece so that you can have you entire eye look white no black showing... (doesn't sound to crazy of an idea with all the new technology and stuff in the world lol)


Bernardo Rodriguez
[/quote]
Just roll your eyes up.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 25, 2010 09:50PM)
Now I'm getting eager for this I know Hocus-pocus is offering a free shipping for pre-orders is anywhere else doing this? Also we have been talking a lot about the possibilities but are there any precautions that we can do to make these last a long time? I know a lot about Color Lenses but the fact that these might be a little different I'm not sure if same care will be suffice. For example, dry eyes smokey bars dehydration from drinking alchohol any of these something we might want to be aware of? I just watched Drag me to Hell and when her eyes changed I instantly THOUGHT YES!!!! SEANCE!!!!
Message: Posted by: ftlum (Jul 25, 2010 11:24PM)
Looks cool, but if I were the seller, I'd have people sign a release form. This thing has infection and corneal abrasion written all over it. Even with standard contact lenses there is risk.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 26, 2010 03:45AM)
The gimmicks are designed for this effect. You should NOT attempt it with anything else as you could damage your eyes. The gimmicks last a long time with care and handling. As with anything of this nature the purchaser is responsible for using the effect. Much like drinking alcohol, it's okay when done responsibly but reckless use may cause you harm.

I have trained with Berk and understand the process. Berks explanation is clear detailed and thorough in regards to care and use.

Again DO NOT DO THIS without the correct gimmicks..

MS
Message: Posted by: Mind Melter (Jul 26, 2010 06:32AM)
Will this work for people who have had laser eye surgery? because they did need to cut a flap into the eye for that and I wonder if it will still be ok to perform this for those types of people? :)
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 26, 2010 07:47AM)
Ask your optician or laser surgeon about this as in the UK laser eye surgery can differ from clinic to clinic..

Before doing this effect I consulted with my personal optician and had a thorough check as well as discussing the effect and what I intended to do..

You don't have to but it doesn't hurt, it just depends on how serious you are about doing the effect..

MS
Message: Posted by: Jean-Luc.R. (Jul 26, 2010 10:00AM)
Berk Eratay's
BIOKINESIS


IT'S TIME TO OPEN YOUR MIND TO A BRAND NEW ORIGINAL CONCEPT IN MODERN PERFORMANCE ARTISTRY...BIOKENISIS...

This is the ORIGINAL & BEST colour-changing-eyes effect - fully tested over EIGHT long years of work & performance.


IMAGINE THIS: you are performing your favorite effect and at the key moment you ask your spectator to stare into your eyes. Your eyes close as if you are falling in to a trance and when you open them again they have turned completely white! That's right - your eyes have totally changed colour!! And best of all - you can just as quickly change them back to normal whenever you wish!

MARC SPELMANN: BIOKINESIS IN ACTION: CLICK HERE...
FAQ's: Biokinesis - Colour Changing Eyes


Q : Are the gimmicks hard to use?
A : We provide detailed instructions on the DVD.
Q : How long do the gimmicks last?
A : When unopened the product has a two year life span, however as soon as the vial is opened the product has between 6 - 12 months life span during this time you can wear them as often as you want.
Q : Do I need an eye test?
A : The product provided is specifically manufactured as a fashion accessory item. It is not a prescription contact lens so you do NOT need an eye test to wear the gimmicks.
Q : I wear glasses does this mean I can't perform Biokinesis?
A: As the Biokinesis gimmicks do not alter your vision there is no reason why you can't wear them at the same time as your glasses.
Q: I wear contact lenses; can I wear the gimmicks over or under them?
A: No if you wear contacts to correct your vision you will need look into getting prescription gimmicks from your optician.
Q : What is the minimum age?
A : Those purchasing this product agree that they are over eighteen years of age and are buying it with the sole intention of educational purposes only. However, there is no law stating a minimum age regarding the type of gimmicks supplied.


This WILL freak out even the most cynical of spectators.

And then WHENEVER YOU CHOOSE you can close your eyes, come out of the trance and your eyes are totally BACK TO NORMAL!
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Jul 26, 2010 10:58AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-25 01:03, Bernardo Rodriguez wrote:
Is there no way to have a one way contact lense piece so that you can have you entire eye look white no black showing... (doesn't sound to crazy of an idea with all the new technology and stuff in the world lol)


Bernardo Rodriguez
[/quote]

Historically this was done with an "eye-cup" with a pinprick hole. You can look it up. Having said that, it was usually done by Indian Fakirs/Beggers to fake blindness. Its not something you can quickly change back and forth like Biokenesis.

Posted: Jul 26, 2010 11:59am
Btw... the Asian cultural issues have already been mentioned. It should also probably be mentioned that Fundamentalist Christians are not likely to respond well to this...
Message: Posted by: jaybest (Jul 26, 2010 12:03PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-26 11:00, Jean-Luc.R. wrote:
Q : How long do the gimmicks last?
A : When unopened the product has a two year life span, however as soon as the vial is opened the product has between 6 - 12 months life span during this time you can wear them as often as you want.
[/quote]

Will there be a way of picking up additional gimmicks once the originals have had it?

Loving the look and sound of this and pre-ordered as soon as I knew I could... roll on August.
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (Jul 26, 2010 03:00PM)
The effect looks cool, but considering that the product only lasts perhaps 6 months and it costs a lot, you really need to be a professional performer to get out enough of it. Any chance that 3 gimmick will be supplied?

Next problem is that the procuts have to sell fast, because the gimmick only lasts 2 years unopened.

Anyway: great tool to include in an effect.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 26, 2010 03:18PM)
It's also worth pointing out that if you look after them and use them every so often the life span will be longer than if you used them every night and didn't take proper care of them..

We will have a system in place for getting new gimmicks.. We'll update here once we have more info..

Best
MS
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (Jul 26, 2010 03:28PM)
Okay, that sounds cool! So it isn't a organic date of expiry? Excited to here from the replacement system and its prices :)
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Jul 26, 2010 05:30PM)
Think the care and expiry are the same as all contacts
Message: Posted by: sieler (Jul 26, 2010 05:46PM)
Hmm...how about a comedy version, talking about cameras and flashes, where you end up
with *really* red eyes? :)

I've seen Berk do this several times, very close up ... and it's awesome.

Note that it requires the performer to get the audience's close attention to the your eyes
- it's easy to overlook otherwise.

Congrats, Berk!
Stan

Posted: Jul 26, 2010 6:47pm
Forgot my original motiviation for posting: @paisa23, I want to see a video of your wedding!
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 26, 2010 05:48PM)
Well sent the Wife the Link and she said she is on board with the Purchase, so is Hocus-pocus the only one providing freee shipping for Pre-order? Alakazam what is yout site pricing them at? I thought you guys were out of state? How much would shipping be out of your location? SAy to San Antonio TX.
Message: Posted by: FoxRobert (Jul 26, 2010 06:21PM)
Hello Berk and Mark,
does anybody of you know, how long I will wait if I will make an order right now? Could you tell me by your opinion how long takes the practise to master it approximately?
Thank you. Robert

Posted: Jul 26, 2010 7:25pm
By the way I love it! It is a great tool for hundreds of applications....
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 26, 2010 06:56PM)
Fox as I believe it'll be released really soon as soon as they finalize the DVD and the box.
If you work with me hand to hand know the basic usage of lens maybe 3 days to get whole thing cause I may show you the correct points...
For DVD on my experience 1 day for what we call level one lifting... 1 weeks for level 2 and for level 3 possibly 1 month...
But the more you invest in it the more you'll master and failproof it gets... So it's good for you to learn it really late.

Posted: Jul 26, 2010 8:00pm
@Stan thanks
Will I see you this year at Vegas?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 26, 2010 08:19PM)
Oh if I get this and have it down by the wedding it will be done... And we already have a videographer so its a matter of pre ordering and waiting and practicing. It will for sure be up to be viewed wether youtube or my facebook, that will depend on Berks permission. But I just havent decided wether to pre order from Alakazam or Hocus-pocus. IM in the military as most of you know Living in San Antonio my fiance lives in Jersey so ill be flying home 3 days prior to the wedding its been a heck of a year getting money together to travel back and forth so Free shipping does sweeten the pot.. UNless there is a Military discount, ah Berk? JE JE just kidding but seriously, lol Really eager about this. I don't tend to get like that about too many effects, but I agree this is a Tool that if performed well can really devaste an audience. EVEN ON THE RARE OCCASION YOUR OUT WITH FRIENDS AT A BAR and a buddy gets into trouble.. this is a REALLY QUICK way to get him out of a fight. IMAGINE!!!! " AH I WOULDNT MESS WITH HIM IF I WAS YOU!!!" (CHANGE EYES)... LOL HAMSTER IS ON THE WHEEL GUYS AND HE IS RUNNING PRETTY FAST.
Message: Posted by: sbays (Jul 26, 2010 10:39PM)
I think everyone is missing out on the true potential of this. Doesn't anyone else wanna HULK out ala Bixby/Ferrigno? ;P Bring on the green ring lenses. LOL

Ok on a serious note: Prescription aside, would these need to be sized as most contacts have to be? Base curve etc? Or are these a one size fits most? Again, talking about fit here, not prescription.
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Jul 27, 2010 04:51AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-26 19:56, Berk.Eratay wrote:
Fox as I believe it'll be released really soon as soon as they finalize the DVD and the box.
If you work with me hand to hand know the basic usage of lens maybe 3 days to get whole thing cause I may show you the correct points...
For DVD on my experience 1 day for what we call level one lifting... 1 weeks for level 2 and for level 3 possibly 1 month...
But the more you invest in it the more u'll master and failproof it gets... So It's good for you to learn it really late
[/quote]

Thanks for that Berk, I am looking forward to putting the time into this effect as the potential of this effect performed wisely will just be Scary !

Really looking forward to this !

Best Wishes

Mark Southworth
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 27, 2010 09:52AM)
I think the "Hey look at my scary eyes? is very cool but what about cueing spectators with two shapes or a word written on the lenses?

A color on one and a shape on the other.
James
Message: Posted by: GEMINI (Jul 27, 2010 10:02AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 10:52, Xiqual wrote:
I think the "Hey look at my scary eyes? is very cool but what about cueing spectators with two shapes or a word written on the lenses?

A color on one and a shape on the other.
James
[/quote]

Good thinking.

- Sam
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 27, 2010 12:35PM)
My preorder went in to hocus-pocus today. Now the waiting game.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jul 27, 2010 01:25PM)
This fits you like a tee Paisa! Just like those monster teeth you had in before. :lol:
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 27, 2010 01:27PM)
@ Xiqual within time I developed ones with word and playing cards symbols on it for instant stooge... Look in to my eyes you'll see the truth... U can actually give a command to ur instant stooge :)
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Jul 27, 2010 01:29PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 10:52, Xiqual wrote:
I think the "Hey look at my scary eyes? is very cool but what about cueing spectators with two shapes or a word written on the lenses?

A color on one and a shape on the other.
James
[/quote]

Great idea James !

As a pseudo hypnotism routine with symbols, just a thought what about swirls like in the growing & shrinking head.

I have watched quite a few clips of Berk from the tv show performing Biokinesis, I think it was the panel, they all looked on edge, great theatre & played great.

Performed as a colour changing eye trick will be just that a trick. Performed with layers of work shows how big it can play !

What a great utility tool !

Berk are you planning any classes in the UK ?

Best Wishes

Mark Southworth
Message: Posted by: insight (Jul 27, 2010 01:32PM)
The customized contacts exist not only for playing cards, but other symbols, shapes, and information. They use this in the entertainment indusry all the time. Yes, this can be used by mentalists for that application.

Regards,
Mike
Message: Posted by: Piz (Jul 27, 2010 03:35PM)
This is awesome, other then magic contacts are my second love. I actually own those white-out contacts and about 20 other pairs of other FX tacs, and am a member on Lensaholic forums :) . This effect is right up my alley, I always thought of doing this exact effect, I rearly perform without contacts in my eye's, this one's mine! :)



Paul
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 27, 2010 03:57PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 14:25, Giani wrote:
This fits you like a tee Paisa! Just like those monster teeth you had in before. :lol:
[/quote]

Tell me about it!!! Eager to get these!!!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jul 27, 2010 06:31PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 16:57, paisa23 wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 14:25, Giani wrote:
This fits you like a tee Paisa! Just like those monster teeth you had in before. :lol:
[/quote]

Tell me about it!!! Eager to get these!!!
[/quote]

Just imagine wearing them on the Riverwalk!!!
Message: Posted by: Piz (Jul 28, 2010 03:15AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 19:31, Giani wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 16:57, paisa23 wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 14:25, Giani wrote:
This fits you like a tee Paisa! Just like those monster teeth you had in before. :lol:
[/quote]

Tell me about it!!! Eager to get these!!!
[/quote]

Just imagine wearing them on the Riverwalk!!!
[/quote]


I think the hard thing for me is going to be convincing the magic aspect of this effect.

I wear Special-Effect contacts so often everyone around me knows me as just that, as well as the customers I perform for, which in return they may not see this as magic, but more of a "gag" type effect. For me, this is one of those special gig type deals, as I am well known within my circle for my "Weird Eye's". :)


Paul
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 28, 2010 04:26AM)
I was pretty sure you had already thought of that Berk.
This is very exciting! It really is something new in magic.
Thanks Berk,
James


[quote]
On 2010-07-27 14:27, Berk.Eratay wrote:
@ Xiqual within time I developed ones with word and playing cards symbols on it for instant stooge... Look in to my eyes you'll see the truth... U can actually give a command to ur instant stooge :)
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 28, 2010 12:38PM)
New full trailer is up. We wanted to show you a few clips of Berk Eratay on the Turkish Phenomena program which he went onto win.. Enjoy..

http://www.youtube.com/user/rsvpmagic#p/a/u/0/Q9m72KUnz8U

MS
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 28, 2010 03:35PM)
Marc, buddy now your just teasing us!!!! I placed my pre-order when can we expect shipments to go out to other dealers? I ordered mine from Hocus-pocus..
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jul 28, 2010 09:31PM)
Not to worry broth, you will have them on in plenty of time for Halloween!
Message: Posted by: Havens (Jul 29, 2010 09:28AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-28 13:38, Marc Spelmann wrote:
New full trailer is up. We wanted to show you a few clips of Berk Eratay on the Turkish Phenomena program which he went onto win.. Enjoy..

http://www.youtube.com/user/rsvpmagic#p/a/u/0/Q9m72KUnz8U

MS
[/quote]

Really like this clip, I'm especially impressed with Berk's performance. Many assume Biokinesis has to be used in conjunction with another effect, or will just be a "look my eyes have changed" kind of effect but Berk's performance demonstrates something a lot more powerful and exhibits some real showmanship. If you weren't convinced by the potential of this effect then you probably are now.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 29, 2010 10:35AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-23 08:03, russ stevens wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I've just shot and edited a new project for Alakazam called "Biokinesis" by Berk Eratay.

I often hear that there's nothing new in magic. Well, watch this and enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5_uL5f4v8

Best,
Russ
[/quote]

Holy crap! People will think you are demon possessed!
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 29, 2010 03:53PM)
Theory 11, I believe has an effect where you stop your pulse. Imagine this: You are doing the effect, and your pulse becomes slower and slower, the spectators are beginning to freak out, and just at the point where you flatline, your eyes go white....
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 29, 2010 06:09PM)
@ Marc: The part you and me both white eyes is really scary...
I seem like something possesed me and you seem like Alien :D Love it :D
Can't wait to have the DVD for myself LOL!
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 29, 2010 06:34PM)
Berk everyone who has seen us thinks we're possessed.. And the trailer where you appear at the end all of my family and friends say 'wow he is demonic isn't he.' you've got a great look Berk.. Like the kind of person who could quite possibly read my mind..

I thought it was funny when you told me your friends thought I looked scary..

Message me when you have the photos..

MS
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 29, 2010 08:15PM)
Marc and Berk with white eyes together, you boys are just not right!
That is seriously disturbing. Marc, you look like you just came off a slab.
AWESOME!!!!!!!
James

I am going to do a speak to the dead routine and at the moment of the info reveal
BAMMMMM white eyes!!
Message: Posted by: Rick (Jul 29, 2010 11:08PM)
Paisa had me thinking some other ways to use this if I get it. Congrats btw on your soon to be wedding bro..

WHEN YOU COULD ALSO USE THIS...,If you dare to...

When that kid that keeps making faces at you over your wife or husband's shoulder at the next table...

Just when you know that job interview isn't gonna happen for ya...

During your blood pressure check up with your doctor...

When that bartender tries to cut you off just because he thinks you had too much to drink......

Those times when it's a Sat, and youre chillin at home, you don't want to be bothered, and those sales people come to your door....

When the clerk asks for your ID....

If you're lucky enough to participate in a sleep study program at a hospital...

At your next eye exam follow-up...

If you happen to get pulled over for a DUI?????? ("You know when they shine that light in your eyes!")......

For that special someone that looks at ya when you both finish watching Thriller....

I could see this being used other than bizzar/mentalism.. Any one else have any to add to the list?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 29, 2010 11:41PM)
HAHAHAHHAHA PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CENSUS AND JOHOVA WITNES PLEASE COME A KNOCKING!!! I can see it now!"Have you excepter G as your Lord and Savior?" (eyes go white) "Trust me ladies, its too late for me, but I havent gotten to the guy next door yet. You might have a better chance with him" Love it.Or the old even though I'm 31 now but out of teen wolf go buy some beers and when the guy says no cause I forgot my ID..

http://www.videodetective.com/movie_trailer/TEEN_WOLF/movie_clip/P00000535.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl_BJMM2u-A&feature=related

Berk ah, yeah buddy you have opened Pandoras Box I think you might wanna get to work on some other eyes LOL...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKji4fSkxtk&feature=related

Halloween is around the Corner I can see if there are any haunted houses to do a Mock Seance and let myself get possesed.

Magical tool this will be great for Mentalism without a doubt. WAy too many possibilites if you wanna Go bizzare. Smash and Stab, Stigmata, There really is way too many possibilities for this effect, hopefully I can wear these for prolonged period of time. Now I know that there are people who wont see this as a tool and to be honest better that way. I don't want everyone at the next lecture to be doing this on the spot. I will find more then enough reasons to use this. Even a simple dollar float or haunted deck. I don't know I'm rambling, but I'm excited about these. CAnt wait to get them.





Awesome show by the way very adult themed for the WB...
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 30, 2010 01:30AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 00:08, Rick wrote:
Paisa had me thinking some other ways to use this if I get it. Congrats btw on your soon to be wedding bro..

WHEN YOU COULD ALSO USE THIS...,If you dare to...

When that kid that keeps making faces at you over your wife or husband's shoulder at the next table...

Just when you know that job interview isn't gonna happen for ya...

During your blood pressure check up with your doctor...

When that bartender tries to cut you off just because he thinks you had too much to drink......

Those times when it's a Sat, and youre chillin at home, you don't want to be bothered, and those sales people come to your door....

When the clerk asks for your ID....

If you're lucky enough to participate in a sleep study program at a hospital...

At your next eye exam follow-up...

If you happen to get pulled over for a DUI?????? ("You know when they shine that light in your eyes!")......

For that special someone that looks at ya when you both finish watching Thriller....

I could see this being used other than bizzar/mentalism.. Any one else have any to add to the list?
[/quote]

Rick, your driving me CRAZY with possibilities!! My mind is spinning, man!!!
Message: Posted by: Havens (Jul 30, 2010 04:01AM)
Under age kids in America could use this to buy alcohol.

"Give me, a keg, of beer"
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 30, 2010 04:13AM)
Hi Paisa,

Yes, you can wear them all day and go into the freak out at any time!

Benny
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Jul 30, 2010 05:36AM)
I predict it will be the the new d'lite...
Unfortunatelly.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 30, 2010 05:44AM)
Parmenion,

That is a valid fear. Youtube is going to be overflowing with examples, I'm sure. IMHO this should be several times the price, just to keep it a little more exclusive.

Benny
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Jul 30, 2010 05:58AM)
I think that this would be perfect combined with [url=http://www.geniimagazine.com/wiki/index.php/Living_and_Dead_Test]this[/url] effect, just as you reveal the slip of paper with the dead person's name.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 30, 2010 06:36AM)
Myself and Peter really ummed and arghhed about the price..

It's a difficult one because you are getting the instructional DVD and custom gimmicks so theoretically it could be priced double what it is but at the same time we know that times are hard for everyone and don't want to price it out of the market place. We thought £49.00 UK Sterling would be just right to keep it affordable but also out of range for the curious as they can get two or three dvds with loads of tricks..

This is only sold to over 18's as well so hopefully it'll just miss the Youtube webcam kids..

MS
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 30, 2010 06:57AM)
What make me happy is;
This thread is just a little model of the community but most of you take it as a serious arsenal to mentalism but not as a simple magic trick...
I always prefer it's to be known as an mentalism utility tool like a peek not as a street magic piece...
I'm honored.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 30, 2010 08:43AM)
Absolutely Berk! Astral travel effect, possesion. Maybe only some people see it while others don't. I have already pre-ordered and I am really excited to get started,
James

[quote]
On 2010-07-30 07:57, Berk.Eratay wrote:
What make me happy is;
This thread is just a little model of the community but most of you take it as a serious arsenal to mentalism but not as a simple magic trick...
I always prefer it's to be known as an mentalism utility tool like a peek not as a street magic piece...
I'm honored.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 30, 2010 10:16AM)
Absolutely mind blowing! A million opportunities for use even when your not directly performing. (Bedroom, anyone? Heh, heh!) It boggles the brain!
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 30, 2010 10:29AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 11:16, daffydoug wrote:
Absolutely mind blowing! A million opportunities for use even when your not directly performing. (Bedroom, anyone? Heh, heh!) It boggles the brain!
[/quote]

Do yourself a favor if you come across the DVD Me, Myself and Irene, look at the deleted scenes there is one where Jim and Irene are in the bedroom ITs HIlarious, add this little gem to it and if it is a marriage or a one nighter lol it might just be your last...
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Jul 30, 2010 11:19AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 05:01, Havens wrote:
Under age kids in America could use this to buy alcohol.

"Give me, a keg, of beer"
[/quote]

Nicely done. A classic scene.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Jul 30, 2010 11:28AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 11:16, daffydoug wrote:
Absolutely mind blowing! A million opportunities for use even when your not directly performing. (Bedroom, anyone? Heh, heh!) It boggles the brain!
[/quote]

I suppsoe you could use it in the bar for picking up goth chicks...
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 30, 2010 12:00PM)
I got to thinking: I wonder if they are going to offer this in different colors in the future? Such as red or yellow.) That would be awesome!

The ONLY thing that bothers me is that the life span of the product is only six months to a year. Since this is something that one will obviously use and perform for a lifetime, that means an extra expenditure of a nice chunk of cash every once or twice a year for the rest of your life! Ouch!!

(Also, I'm curious, what happens after the life span ends. Does the product simply wear out, disintegrate, fall apart, or what?) Why is it not possible to manufacture this so that it will last a lifetime under good care?
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Jul 30, 2010 12:13PM)
I agree! I intend to use this for a long time! Is there some kind of system where we can get refills or will we have to pay $77.00 everytime our gimmmick runs out? And how will we know when it runs out?
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 30, 2010 01:42PM)
Inquiring minds want to know.
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Jul 30, 2010 02:35PM)
Daffy you can understand the lifespan has end it'll wear out!
I've got mines the firstprototype been 3 years!
Message: Posted by: mayniac (Jul 30, 2010 02:54PM)
So if it runs out we have to pay the full $80 again?
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 30, 2010 03:23PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 15:35, Berk.Eratay wrote:
Daffy you can understand the lifespan has end it'll wear out!
I've got mines the firstprototype been 3 years!
[/quote]

Well, actually I have never worn contacts of any kind, so I don't know ANYTHING about them, so in my mind I was thinking because of the natural lubrication of the eyes, there should be no friction, so in my mind I could not understand how they can wear out.

But three years sounds pretty great! I can live with that. (Especially compared to 6 to 12 months.) So the 6 to 12 month is a conservative estimate?
Message: Posted by: roblane (Jul 30, 2010 03:25PM)
I pre-ordered this as soon as I saw the demo. Then I thought 'contacts hmmmm, not so sure'. But there are so many possibilities with this my head is spinning. As a hobbyist, I'm very aware how difficult it is ( nigh impossible) to convince family of any potential 'powers'. My thought is to use this with Don Theo III's. wonderful Svenvelope. When attempting to 'read' the first word, go into a 'trance' ( cue eye change). Even though you 'fail' to get the word, the idea that 'something' happened to you whilst trying will be very strong, particularly if you feign no knowledge of exactly what has happened to you. A shake of the head followed by, ' wow, that felt strange', should do it. What do you all think?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 30, 2010 04:13PM)
6 - 12 months is a conservative time span and understand if you do it every day all day the product will wear.. It's like anything use it a lot and it's life decreases.

We will have refills, different colours etc. But please understand the demand has to be high as we have to commission a large run in order to keep the cost down for our customers.

With care and educated handling the gimmicks will easily last a year but it totally depends on you and how you care for them.

MS
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Jul 30, 2010 05:05PM)
Marc,

I know this will be different for various individuals, but approximately how long will it take to train to do this?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jul 30, 2010 05:41PM)
Totally depends on how much you train, the understanding of what needs to happen. Berk teaches various techniques ranging in difficulty, stage 1, 2 & 3. All are effective but all range in difficulty. Sorry to be vague but it's like learning a pass, some pick it up in minutes others hours and others days if not months.

I had a good understanding of the principle before the DVD shoot but we deliberatley kept the finer details until the actual shoot. I studied for a solid three days and still am perfecting the technique I want to master.

I think an average time span would be a week for the basics an hour a day. Then for the more advanced techniques at least a couple of weeks to a month.

The learning process is very rewarding though.

MS
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 30, 2010 07:28PM)
So you have to learn to do some rather athletic things with your eyeballs (while they are closed) that they are just not accustomed to doing?
Message: Posted by: Looch (Jul 31, 2010 03:59AM)
More like muscles you havent trained before

Very much looking forward to this, I sense it will be rewarding to those that invest the time and effort needed to master the techniques. Berk I believe your taking it back to how it was and always should be...Congratulations
Message: Posted by: bobcam1 (Jul 31, 2010 12:00PM)
This effect, coupled with THESE:

( http://www.vampfangs.com/Retractable-Vampire-Fangs-p/retractfng.htm )

...will be KILLER!!
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Jul 31, 2010 12:05PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-31 13:00, bobcam1 wrote:
This effect, coupled with THESE:

( http://www.vampfangs.com/Retractable-Vampire-Fangs-p/retractfng.htm )

...will be KILLER!!
[/quote]

Bought a set of these when they came out and nah didn't work to well with me.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jul 31, 2010 01:32PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-31 04:59, looch wrote:
More like muscles you havent trained before

Very much looking forward to this, I sense it will be rewarding to those that invest the time and effort needed to master the techniques. Berk I believe your taking it back to how it was and always should be...Congratulations
[/quote]

Kind of like learning the muscle pass with coins, eh?
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Jul 31, 2010 03:21PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-31 13:00, bobcam1 wrote:
This effect, coupled with THESE:

( http://www.vampfangs.com/Retractable-Vampire-Fangs-p/retractfng.htm )

...will be KILLER!!
[/quote]

As I said, the new D'lite...
I'm glad to hear you have to practise some time to mastering it.
80% of the teenager and hobbyist will pass on it.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 31, 2010 08:21PM)
Believe me, non contact wearers trying to put things into their eyes takes some real commitment. The $80 price tag while reasonable for what you get, will be too high for the youtube crowd.
I think it is a good strategy.

[quote]
On 2010-07-31 16:21, parmenion wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-31 13:00, bobcam1 wrote:
This effect, coupled with THESE:

( http://www.vampfangs.com/Retractable-Vampire-Fangs-p/retractfng.htm )

...will be KILLER!!
[/quote]

As I said, the new D'lite...
I'm glad to hear you have to practise some time to mastering it.
80% of the teenager and hobbyist will pass on it.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 1, 2010 10:59AM)
Believe me, non contact wearers trying to put things into their eyes takes some real commitment.
That's me. I'm sure my fiance is gong to be absolutely dead curious as to why my eyes are red for a few days or however how long it takes a non contact wearer to adjust to these.
Message: Posted by: taoist (Aug 1, 2010 02:22PM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 13:00, daffydoug wrote:
(Also, I'm curious, what happens after the life span ends. Does the product simply wear out, disintegrate, fall apart, or what?) Why is it not possible to manufacture this so that it will last a lifetime under good care?
[/quote]

They simply return to Hades after 6 months. ;>
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 1, 2010 05:56PM)
Mu hu hu hu ahh ha ha!!!
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Aug 2, 2010 11:57AM)
Should we meet and visit Scientology Church all together?
With white eyes?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 12:21PM)
I'M GAME!
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 12:40PM)
I remember a TV series years ago about a young guy who turned into a wolf.

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucan_%28TV_series%29 ) When it happened, his eyes always turned red. (Well, technically, amber.) That's why I think red contacts would be really cool. It gives a totally different effect than the white ones.

Imagine doing that when your life is threatened by someone, say a mugger? The guy is about to mug you, and suddenly you close your eyes and when you open them,. they are bright red as you glower at him.

Add some vocal effects and a lot of people are likely to turn tail and run!

Or shoot you, whichever comes first.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 12:43PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-02 13:40, daffydoug wrote:
I remember a TV series years ago about a young guy who turned into a wolf. When it happened, his eyes always turned red. That's why I think red contacts would be really cool. It gives a totally different effect than the white ones.

Imagine doing that when your life is threatened by someone, say a mugger? The guy is about to mug you, and suddenly you close your eyes and when you open them,. they are bright red as you glower at him.

Add some vocal effects and a lot of people are likely to turn tail and run!

Or shoot you, whichever comes first.
[/quote]

I think I know that show was he kinda like a Hitchhiker? The show was called Werewolf they have reruns on the chiller channel.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094311/usercomments What a throw back... I wold love to be able to do this with Black Sceleras but I can imagine how much harder that would be.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 12:47PM)
It was called Lucan, the wolf boy. Google has a few images.
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Aug 2, 2010 12:52PM)
Anyone remember Teenwolf with Michael J Fox ?

:)
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 12:56PM)
Or I was teenage werewolf, with Michael Landon?

[quote]
On 2010-08-02 13:52, sas wrote:
Anyone remember Teenwolf with Michael J Fox ?

:)
[/quote]
Yes! I do remember that, now that you mentioned it.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 01:27PM)
I remember and love TEENWOLF I put a link on the liquor store a page or two back. Lucan hmm. I remember "Werewolf" and another one that was from a saturday show where a cat in the library would read us stories that played out like movies or cartoons. The were wolf doing back flips at night and the Kid who ate worms were the only two that I remember. But either way Berk have you tried to make Biokineses with Black or mirrored Sceleras? This would be a few of my favorites if you could custom make them..

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/doubleiris.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/negative.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/blacksclera.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/redsclera.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/vampyrereaper.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/manson2.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/mirrored.aspx


http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/mirroredblacksclera.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/redorc.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/nightstalker.aspx

http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/greencateye.aspx

Especially at any point when you tell them "Look into my eyes and tell me with your sixth sense the person you are thinking of!!!!" Im excited brothers any word on release date?
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 01:41PM)
This effect could be the final visual PUNCH that will add the BELIEVABILITY factor to many mentalism effects that otherwise would not be quite as strong.

Temptation, though would be to OVERUSE it.
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Aug 2, 2010 01:43PM)
@daffy;
I made red eyes thing with a hoodie on my head to a Russian Couple who pushed me in the Istanbul Metro...
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 01:47PM)
Heck, I just had a thought. Why not combine it with Peter Loughran's "Anything Floats"? (See elsewhere on this page)

Just at the moment before you access your "inner power" to cause an object to float, your eyes change. (Of course, the reason they changed is because you drew the inner power from inside yourself to cause the object to levitate.

Think it could work? Would the two effects enhance each other?

Or would one effect detract from the other?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 02:08PM)
BRO YOU don't UNDERSTAND I WILL CHANGE MY EYES DURING A SPONGE BALL ROUTINE!!! LOL just kidding but seriously, I think this will be perfect for a lot of mentalism routines. I'M thinking Doc Hilfords dreams routine where you talk about a dream within a dream where you travel to China, London and Texas and encounter Khan, Ripper and Kennedy wake up pick up 3 imaginary coins and ask the spectators which one they choose, Half Dollar, Chinese Coin or English Penny. what ever they choose, you clos you "EMPTY" Hand open it and produce their chosen coin. AWESOME effect great spots for story telling and very cryptic if you can make it that way.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 02:15PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-02 15:08, paisa23 wrote:
BRO YOU don't UNDERSTAND I WILL CHANGE MY EYES DURING A SPONGE BALL ROUTINE!!! LOL

Yeah! Perfect for that moment at the restaurant when you are doing sponge bunnies for the little ones! :devilish:
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 02:33PM)
HAHAHAHA Doug I like the cut of your chin my friend.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 03:00PM)
Cut of my chin?

I don't know if I get that, but I'm gonna take it as a compliment.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 03:05PM)
LOL just a way of saying your my kinda guy we think alike and yeah it was a compliment.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 03:46PM)
I kind of thought so!

Thanks!

So you like sick ideas like scaring the kiddies, too, eh?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 2, 2010 07:23PM)
I do I really do. I don't know I am a huge horror buff and just like that aspect.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 2, 2010 08:34PM)
Good man!
Message: Posted by: cheekychap (Aug 3, 2010 12:43AM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-01 15:22, taoist wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 13:00, daffydoug wrote:
(Also, I'm curious, what happens after the life span ends. Does the product simply wear out, disintegrate, fall apart, or what?) Why is it not possible to manufacture this so that it will last a lifetime under good care?
[/quote]

They simply return to Hades after 6 months. ;>
[/quote]

How true is this about eyes??

FDA now considers all contact lens a medical device (this includes plano lenses) and can only be sold with the involvement of a Eye Care Professional.


Let's clarify exactly what the law is
and how it effects you:

Everyone's eyes are different. Correct? The law states that you must have a contact lens fitting on file with an eye care professional within the past year even if you do not need prescription lenses. This ensures that our stock theatrical lenses will fit you properly and that you have been instructed on how to care for contact lenses. C'mon guys... these are your EYES! So many things... bad, evil, things can happen to your vision if you wear lenses that don't fit properly or if you don't clean and care for them properly!!! Imagine buying a pair of shoes that were 3 sizes too small... and wearing them for an entire month! You could wreck your feet! Well, multiply that by 1000 and that's what it's like wearing contact lenses that don't fit!!

Even if you do not have an eye doctor you can still go and get a contact lens fitting! Even some Wal-Mart locations have a vision center and you can get a lens fitting for under $50 in most cases! This fitting is good for an entire year!
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 3, 2010 07:49AM)
Am I understanding this correctly: When I buy this effect the law commands me to go see an eye doctor???
Message: Posted by: cheekychap (Aug 3, 2010 08:05AM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-03 08:49, daffydoug wrote:
Am I understanding this correctly: When I buy this effect the law commands me to go see an eye doctor???
[/quote]

I'm unsure, but it looks that way in certain countries, or states, because everyones eyeballs are all different shapes, and sizes, and I wondered how this effect stands on peoples eyes who may not match up, which is a very important point to all, especially those intend on wearing them all day, as constant lens wear has been associated with corneal ulcers, which can lead rapidly to internal ocular infection
so it not to good, if this is a fact on the lenses being sold

heres a bit more write up on the FDA law, and quite interesting :-

Guidance for Industry, FDA Staff, Eye Care Professionals, and Consumers
Decorative, Non-corrective Contact Lenses
This guidance represents the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA's) current thinking on this topic. It does not create or confer any rights for or on any person and does not operate to bind FDA or the public. You can use an alternative approach if the approach satisfies the requirements of the applicable statutes and regulations. If you want to discuss an alternative approach, contact the FDA staff responsible for implementing this guidance. If you cannot identify the appropriate FDA staff, call the appropriate number listed on the title page of this guidance.
Introduction

On November 9, 2005, section 520(n) was added to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) by Public Law 109-96 to establish that all contact lenses are devices under section 201(h) of the Act. Because all contact lenses are now regulated as devices, including decorative, non-corrective contact lenses intended only to change the normal appearance of the eye, all contact lenses must be the subject of a cleared premarket notification (510(k)) or an approved premarket approval application (PMA) before they may be legally marketed. Additional device authorities, such as the requirement that lenses be dispensed only upon a prescription order, also apply. This guidance explains how section 520(n) affects FDA’s regulation of non-corrective contact lenses intended to change the appearance or color of a normal eye for decorative use.

FDA's guidance documents, including this guidance, do not establish legally enforceable responsibilities. Instead, guidances describe the Agency's current thinking on a topic and should be viewed only as recommendations, unless specific regulatory or statutory requirements are cited. The use of the word should in Agency guidances means that something is suggested or recommended, but not required.
The Least Burdensome Approach

We believe we should consider the least burdensome approach in all areas of medical device regulation. This guidance reflects our careful review of the relevant scientific and legal requirements and what we believe is the least burdensome way for you to comply with those requirements. However, if you believe that an alternative approach would be less burdensome, please contact us so we can consider your point of view. You may send your written comments to the contact person listed in the preface to this guidance or to the CDRH Ombudsman. Comprehensive information on CDRH's Ombudsman, including ways to contact him, can be found on the Internet.
I. Background

FDA is aware of the distribution and use of non-corrective contact lenses that are used to change the normal appearance of the eye in a decorative fashion, such as with colors or designs (decorative contact lenses). Decorative contact lenses that do not have FDA premarket authorization have been marketed directly to consumers. Consumers have used such lenses without the benefit of a valid prescription.

Without a valid prescription, fitting, supervision, or regular check-ups by a qualified eye care professional, decorative contact lenses, like all contact lenses, can cause a variety of serious injuries or conditions. For example, lens wear has been associated with corneal ulcer, which can lead rapidly to internal ocular infection if left untreated. Uncontrolled infection can cause corneal scarring, which can lead to vision impairment, and in extreme cases, blindness or the loss of an eye. Other risks include conjunctivitis; corneal edema (swelling); allergic reaction; abrasion from poor lens fit; reduction in visual acuity, contrast sensitivity, and other visual complications that can interfere with driving and other activities.

Because of these risks, contact lenses, including decorative contact lenses that are non-corrective, are not safe for use except under the supervision of a practitioner licensed by law to direct the use of such devices. The Agency believes that these risks cannot be sufficiently controlled unless the wearer does the following under professional supervision:

* Obtains advice about using contact lenses;
* Has a valid prescription;
* Has the lenses fitted properly; and
* Remains under appropriate professional care for contact lens use.

II. How does recent legislation affect FDA’s regulation of contact lenses?

FDA has reviewed premarket notification submissions (510(k)s) under section 510(k) of the Act (21 U.S.C. 360(k)) and premarket approval applications (PMAs) under section 515 of the Act (21 U.S.C. 360(e)) for most corrective and non-corrective contact lenses marketed in the United States, including certain decorative contact lenses intended to change the appearance of a normal eye. All currently approved or cleared decorative contact lenses are legally marketed only as prescription devices (21 CFR 801.109). However, some non-corrective, decorative contact lenses have not been reviewed by FDA and are sold without a prescription. Although FDA had taken the position that contact lenses intended solely for decorative use may be regulated as cosmetics under section 201(i) of the Act, enactment of section 520(n) requires that all contact lenses be regulated as devices.

Thus, all contact lenses in commercial distribution, including decorative contact lenses that are non-corrective, require either a cleared 510(k), an approved PMA, or an exemption for investigational use (IDE). Without such premarket authorization by FDA, decorative contact lenses are adulterated under section 501(f)(1)(B) of the Act (21 U.S.C. 351(f)(1)(B)), and misbranded under section 502(o) of the Act (21 U.S.C. 352(o)).
III. Can manufacturers, importers, distributors, or retailers market decorative contact lenses as over-the-counter products?

No. Decorative contact lenses should not be marketed or made available to consumers by manufacturers, importers, distributors, or retailers as an over-the counter item. Manufacturers or initial importers should cease distribution of the devices and submit to FDA an appropriate premarket notification for clearance or application for approval if they intend to distribute any type of non-corrective contact lenses, including decorative lenses used to change the appearance of a normal eye. Guidance for 510(k) submissions for contact lenses is located at Premarket Notification (510(k)) Guidance Document for Daily Wear Contact Lenses. Contact lenses, including decorative, non-corrective contact lenses, are also subject to general controls of the Act, including the Quality System regulation (21 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 820), and other applicable device regulations and statutory requirements, including conformance with labeling requirements such as 21 CFR 801.109.
IV. Are manufacturers, importers, distributors, or retailers subject to inspection by FDA?

Yes. FDA has inspected several firms distributing decorative contact lenses and warned firms that selling decorative contact lenses without a valid prescription or proper labeling that includes information about the risks and proper instructions for safe use violates federal law. FDA has also alerted mass marketing firms and operators of on-line sites about the risks associated with decorative contact lenses distributed without appropriate eye care professional involvement.
V. How are imported lenses affected by FDA’s law?

A s devices, imported decorative contact lenses that do not comply with applicable premarket device requirements are subject to detention without physical examination under the procedures described in FDA’s Import Alert #89-08, “Detention without Physical Examination of Devices without Approved PMA’s or IDE’s and Other Devices not Equivalent or no 510(k)” (see also section 801 of the act, 21 U.S.C. 381). The import alert instructs FDA personnel and officials of the United States Customs Service to detain automatically all devices presented at the United States ports of entry that are in violation of federal law. Import Alert #89-08, can be accessed on the Internet.
VI. Can consumers still buy contact lenses used for decorative purposes only?

Yes, if there is a valid prescription. As when buying all contact lens, consumers should be seen by an eye care professional and obtain proper fitting and instructions for using a contact lens. These devices present significant risks of eye injuries, including blindness, if distributed without a valid prescription and the involvement of a qualified eye care professional and appropriate follow-up care.

More information for consumers on the use of decorative lenses can be found on FDA’s web site http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/ PressAnnouncements/2004/ucm108366.htm.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 3, 2010 08:11AM)
The laws regarding contact lenses vary all over the world. In the UK you can buy contact lenses off of Ebay and even Amazon. Also in the UK there is no age requirement or need to have an eye test..

HOWEVER...

We recommend that if you intend on doing this effect it's common sense to have an eye test first, it's common sense to have an eye test anyway. On the DVD we teach how to clean, care and use your gimmicks. The gimmicks are NOT regular. Without divulging to much info they are designed for this effect and are universal.

Berk states on the DVD that he has an eye test every year which we all should do anyway. But many of us, myself included neglect our eyes.

Whatever the laws are for your country, we advise you to follow them and use care and caution. We fully acknowledge that anything to do with your eyes is potentially dangerous and mention it constantly on the DVD and we do not encourage anyone to do this effect without full knowledge and understanding.

We will not sell this to under 18 year olds.

MS
Message: Posted by: cheekychap (Aug 3, 2010 08:18AM)
Great stuff, so the lenses are suited to fit all wearers, or can be used by all magicians without worry??,
but we should all get a check up anyway to be safe, my main concern was the lens sizes, and eyes being different ( same as wearing a smaller shoe sizes ), but these are a 1 fit size for all users who buy them??
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 3, 2010 08:46AM)
There are gas stations in Louisiana that sell color contacts right next to the Bubble Gum. Wearing contacts without a doctor’s approval is just the precaution that is taken. Just like the Surgeon General on the side of Cigs. Anything that involves your eyes can have a chance of injuring something. If you feel that you should get your eyes checked out prior to buying this effect, understand that the test ALONE will be more then the effect. Also I’m pretty sure that if you told your doctor that the contacts you are purchasing are a little different than normal contacts, that you will be training your muscles to hold them and release them I’m almost positive that he would advise against it. So is there laws to buying contacts, yeah there is. Even on line when you order contact, they ask for Dr.s name, practice and contact number. I have owned at least 12 different set of contacts in my life and they have yet to Call, Dr. Felangie(MADE UP NAME FROM SHOW FRIENDS) and the dr.s number (HONESTLY) 867-5309... Am I right for doing this? Maybe, but that is another subject that doesn’t pertain to this.

ON a side note, every time I see this topic on the top of the page I’m hoping to go in to read, THEY ARE GOING OUT TODAY!!! ARGH!!!
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 3, 2010 10:24AM)
Wow. All this new information..all good, but I need to sort through it because I'm going into information overload.

Hard for me to make a decision, now, because I know nothing about contacts from personal experience, and it is hard for me to sort truth from fiction, here.

The part about eyeball cancer kind of caught my eye..no pun intended.

Anyway, the last thing I want in life is rotten, stinky gunk dripping out of my eyeballs.
Message: Posted by: cheekychap (Aug 3, 2010 10:39AM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-03 11:24, daffydoug wrote:
Wow. All this new information..all good, but I need to sort through it because I'm going into information overload.

Hard for me to make a decision, now, because I know nothing about contacts from personal experience, and it is hard for me to sort truth from fiction, here.

The part about eyeball cancer kind of caught my eye..no pun intended.

Anyway, the last thing I want in life is rotten, stinky gunk dripping out of my eyeballs.
[/quote]

I don't think its as bad as I maybe made it, but I'm just curious if the lenses are a one size that will fit all users, or would there be problem in sizes
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 3, 2010 10:43AM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-03 11:24, daffydoug wrote:
Wow. All this new information..all good, but I need to sort through it because I'm going into information overload.

Hard for me to make a decision, now, because I know nothing about contacts from personal experience, and it is hard for me to sort truth from fiction, here.

The part about eyeball cancer kind of caught my eye..no pun intended.

Anyway, the last thing I want in life is rotten, stinky gunk dripping out of my eyeballs.
[/quote]

I agree with you my friend! I was milliseconds away from putting my order in until I read about the eye problems! Maybe I'll wait till everyone else gets it and see what they have to say!
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Aug 3, 2010 10:48AM)
I am so moving to Louisiana!
Anyway, enough of the doom and gloom nay sayers. Cheekychap, thanks for your wet blanket demo. I think we have had enough FDA copy and paste to last us all a few decades.

I can't wait for this to arrive! Berk, you are a mad genius!
James


[quote]
On 2010-08-03 09:46, paisa23 wrote:
There are gas stations in Louisiana that sell color contacts right next to the Bubble Gum.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 3, 2010 11:37AM)
LOL, I was floored when I saw that... But Doug no here is the thing; Contacts take a while of getting use too. Especially the putting in part. I remember when I got my first set, I couldn't GET THEM IN TO SAVE MY LIFE!!! Even after a while of not wearing them it can be a bit of a pain. When you have them ON for a while that can be irritating too. In a Smokey room for hours your eyes can get Dry, I always have drops with me. My contacts have never been prescription or sized by a doctor. I might have too if I was getting Full contacts where they cover the entire eyeball like black sclera’s or others like that. Berk says he has experimented with Hundreds of them to find what he wanted this effect to look like. I think BioKinesis is going to be learning experiences for those who ALREADY have experimented with Contacts so for those that have never worn them, understand that it will take some time on top of getting use to wearing contacts. That’s why I have been wearing my regular color and red contacts
NOW so I can get use to wearing them before Biokinesis releases. I have a bud that liked my red ones bought a pair and at my place took him over an hour to put ONE in. and hour of Irritated Red teary eyed frustrating yelling that he couldn't get it in. (THATS WHAT SHE SAID) but he finally did and the second one only took him 20 minutes. You learn to keep your eye open, or at least find a way to keep them open, my fiancé wears prescription contacts and she pops them in and out One handed and everything. I cannot, I need to have my right hand over my head to hold my upper eye lid open and my left hand with contact on pointer finger and middle finger pulling down on my lower eye lid in order to put mine it. My eye flinches too much, I also need to look directly at the contact as it’s going in while others can look away to place them... Everyone has their own tricky way of getting them in. In my experience with Contacts your fine as long as you take care of them AND THE ONE COMPLETE NO NO NO NO MATTER HOW BAD THEY BEG OR PAY YOU, DO NOT SHARE THEM, EVER!!!!But other than that friend, me personally I don't think there is anything else to worry about. But that's just me.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 3, 2010 12:19PM)
IF you intend on attempting this effect an understanding of contact lenses is paramount. We actually advise on the DVD that if you are totally new to contact lenses get an eye check, then purchase a pack of daily disposable lenses or costume lenses. Practice putting them in, cleaning them, handling them etc. BUT do NOT try the effect as they are not designed for the effect.

The gimmicks are designed in a slightly different way and have a unique quality to them.

MS
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 3, 2010 12:24PM)
Marc. What will the system be on ordering refills?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 3, 2010 01:46PM)
Lou I don't think they have even come to that bridge yet, First I'm guessing they need to see how good the original does in sales since I beleave they would have to order in a large mass in order to get productions of them..
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 3, 2010 02:17PM)
That's a valid statement! Thanks brother!!
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 3, 2010 04:13PM)
I appreciate all the advice everyone has given, here. Still a mountain, for me to wade through, though, before I make a buying decision!

I don't want to decide hastily, without being informed, but with all the help everyone has offered, I think I should be able to come a personal, conclusion soon.

I mean, it's my eyes, my magic career, and I'm a responsible adult, no?

Don't answer that, guys!
Message: Posted by: Philipp K (Aug 4, 2010 02:14PM)
Just one big question for me remains (I have read through all this in 5min so I might have overlooked an answer to it, please pardon me if that is the case)

Is there any way the gimmicks might get stuck?
I mean in a way that I can't remove them myself anymore?

Thanks,
Phil
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 4, 2010 05:13PM)
Good question, just wanted to bump the thread.

Posted: Aug 5, 2010 1:12pm
Been wearing my normal color Contacts to get my eyes use to wearing contacts again.... Hate the first few days. Eyes are always red.
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Aug 5, 2010 02:34PM)
Well to answer the questions!

The contact lenses fits all with their special design... But don't take them as normal contacts... They are a tool which created not to sit on your pupil but on your eyeball...
So thinking about if it fits or not is not a question you need to think...

Btw I'm a person who hates surgery and any kind of health problems... I don't like doctors despite half of my family consists of them...
I do have regular checkups every 6 month and eye check every year...
Doing this for 8 years and even more hardcore techniques when I was just started...
My eyes are still doing fine :)
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Aug 5, 2010 08:24PM)
Besides magic I like to do strongman stunts like odd lifts and bending nails.
I think this will be perfect for right before Ibend a nail, eyes go white, bend it, then back to normal, Berk, you mad genius you!
James
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Aug 5, 2010 08:27PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-05 15:34, Berk.Eratay wrote:
Well to answer the questions!

The contact lenses fits all with their special design... But don't take them as normal contacts... They are a tool which created not to sit on your pupil but on your eyeball...
So thinking about if it fits or not is not a question you need to think...

Btw I'm a person who hates surgery and any kind of health problems... I don't like doctors despite half of my family consists of them...
I do have regular checkups every 6 month and eye check every year...
Doing this for 8 years and even more hardcore techniques when I was just started...
My eyes are still doing fine :)
[/quote]

I find comfort in that. The part I read about eyeball cancer earlier in the thread really scared the crap out of me. Nothing worse than drippy, gooey eyeballs that stink. (unless it's Halloween.)
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 6, 2010 02:45PM)
Drippy, gooey eyeballs that stink? I could think of another thing that might be worse.. Take the Eye part out of your sentence.... LOLOLOLOL anyway, release date guy come on?lol
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Aug 6, 2010 03:15PM)
It's only sensible when putting anything in your eyes to check it first ? I've never worn contacts but have done the sensible thing & checked into it.

I'm with you guys, I can't wait for the release & then the hard work begins to get this down.

Any more info on the release ?
Message: Posted by: mindguru (Aug 6, 2010 10:31PM)
I like this effect, when I first saw it I thought this has the power to instantly effect people on a deep level. The only problem for me is that I have never worn contact lenses, which means I could be one of those people whos eyes become iritated by them. I also have a bit of a fear of them due to a friend years ago who had one of their eyes get infected due to contacts and it took months to get back to normal. Then again many people use contacts and have had no problems.

I am undecided.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 7, 2010 03:19AM)
YEAH!!!Sorry just keeping it alive.
Message: Posted by: NexusMagicShop (Aug 7, 2010 04:41PM)
I really like this effect also, so many different applications to take your mentalism or magic to the next level, and beyond. Great effect to demonstrate live Possessions, Seances, Mentalism, Countless applications. I think it is appropriately priced in that not everyone will spring for this. Which in my opinion is good.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Aug 9, 2010 01:22AM)
When in the end of August is this expected?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 10, 2010 07:50PM)
We are getting an update on the custom gimmicks which are being made to Berk's specifications. Once we have this update we'll be able to make a more accurate date of release.. But rest assured the DVD's are now edited and I'll be checking the master over the weekend.

MS
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 10, 2010 08:41PM)
Penguin is pre-ordering this now! YAY!
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Aug 10, 2010 10:11PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-03 12:37, paisa23 wrote:
LOL, I was floored when I saw that... But Doug no here is the thing; Contacts take a while of getting use too. Especially the putting in part. I remember when I got my first set, I couldn't GET THEM IN TO SAVE MY LIFE!!! Even after a while of not wearing them it can be a bit of a pain. When you have them ON for a while that can be irritating too. In a Smokey room for hours your eyes can get Dry, I always have drops with me. My contacts have never been prescription or sized by a doctor. I might have too if I was getting Full contacts where they cover the entire eyeball like black sclera’s or others like that. Berk says he has experimented with Hundreds of them to find what he wanted this effect to look like. I think BioKinesis is going to be learning experiences for those who ALREADY have experimented with Contacts so for those that have never worn them, understand that it will take some time on top of getting use to wearing contacts. That’s why I have been wearing my regular color and red contacts
NOW so I can get use to wearing them before Biokinesis releases. I have a bud that liked my red ones bought a pair and at my place took him over an hour to put ONE in. and hour of Irritated Red teary eyed frustrating yelling that he couldn't get it in. (THATS WHAT SHE SAID) but he finally did and the second one only took him 20 minutes. You learn to keep your eye open, or at least find a way to keep them open, my fiancé wears prescription contacts and she pops them in and out One handed and everything. I cannot, I need to have my right hand over my head to hold my upper eye lid open and my left hand with contact on pointer finger and middle finger pulling down on my lower eye lid in order to put mine it. My eye flinches too much, I also need to look directly at the contact as it’s going in while others can look away to place them... Everyone has their own tricky way of getting them in. In my experience with Contacts your fine as long as you take care of them AND THE ONE COMPLETE NO NO NO NO MATTER HOW BAD THEY BEG OR PAY YOU, DO NOT SHARE THEM, EVER!!!!But other than that friend, me personally I don't think there is anything else to worry about. But that's just me.
[/quote]
This is so true. Years ago, about 7 or 8 years, I tried to use Contacts. It was ok even it was always a struggling to put these things on. Then one day I tried to put them on, I accidentally blinked and these beauties flew across the room. I could not find them for about 30 minutes due to the gray color of the carpet.

That was the last day I touched those lol. Love the idea, love the effect, it looks freakingly awesome and will floor audience, but I don't think it's practical for everyone.

Audience that is familiar with Contacts won't be very surprised, I think. As we've already got Contacts with various designs. But still, for most laymen, this is a good trick. I love it, good job, and have fun for those who are getting this.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Aug 10, 2010 11:04PM)
If you only say "Hey Look" and then do the change and then change back, sure it will be obvious. I think the beauty will lie in the performance of some "power" and making sure that only some of the audience see the change. This will create conflict
and differing opinions among the audience and will make some doubt what they actually saw. I love that.
James

[quote]
On 2010-08-10 23:11, Failed Magician wrote:



Audience that is familiar with Contacts won't be very surprised, I think. As we've already got Contacts with various designs. But still, for most laymen, this is a good trick. I love it, good job, and have fun for those who are getting this.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Aug 10, 2010 11:12PM)
It does look great... BUT...
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 10, 2010 11:23PM)
What about doing this and performing Multi-Dimensional? That's an idea!
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Aug 11, 2010 08:13AM)
Well put, Xigual. This trick needs a heavy build-up before you do the "move". Otherwise, they will just smirk. This has opened to many other ideas of routines tho.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Aug 11, 2010 12:26PM)
Hi guys

Thank you for your interest in Biokinesis. We are now taking pre orders at http://www.alakazamusa.com.


Regards

Peter Nardi
Message: Posted by: dblast (Aug 11, 2010 01:44PM)
Peter that link is no good it goes to a hosting service.
Message: Posted by: bghost (Aug 11, 2010 02:23PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-10 23:11, Failed Magician wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-08-03 12:37, paisa23 wrote:
LOL, I was floored when I saw that... But Doug no here is the thing; Contacts take a while of getting use too. Especially the putting in part. I remember when I got my first set, I couldn't GET THEM IN TO SAVE MY LIFE!!! Even after a while of not wearing them it can be a bit of a pain. When you have them ON for a while that can be irritating too. In a Smokey room for hours your eyes can get Dry, I always have drops with me. My contacts have never been prescription or sized by a doctor. I might have too if I was getting Full contacts where they cover the entire eyeball like black sclera’s or others like that. Berk says he has experimented with Hundreds of them to find what he wanted this effect to look like. I think BioKinesis is going to be learning experiences for those who ALREADY have experimented with Contacts so for those that have never worn them, understand that it will take some time on top of getting use to wearing contacts. That’s why I have been wearing my regular color and red contacts
NOW so I can get use to wearing them before Biokinesis releases. I have a bud that liked my red ones bought a pair and at my place took him over an hour to put ONE in. and hour of Irritated Red teary eyed frustrating yelling that he couldn't get it in. (THATS WHAT SHE SAID) but he finally did and the second one only took him 20 minutes. You learn to keep your eye open, or at least find a way to keep them open, my fianc?wears prescription contacts and she pops them in and out One handed and everything. I cannot, I need to have my right hand over my head to hold my upper eye lid open and my left hand with contact on pointer finger and middle finger pulling down on my lower eye lid in order to put mine it. My eye flinches too much, I also need to look directly at the contact as it’s going in while others can look away to place them... Everyone has their own tricky way of getting them in. In my experience with Contacts your fine as long as you take care of them AND THE ONE COMPLETE NO NO NO NO MATTER HOW BAD THEY BEG OR PAY YOU, DO NOT SHARE THEM, EVER!!!!But other than that friend, me personally I don't think there is anything else to worry about. But that's just me.
[/quote]
This is so true. Years ago, about 7 or 8 years, I tried to use Contacts. It was ok even it was always a struggling to put these things on. Then one day I tried to put them on, I accidentally blinked and these beauties flew across the room. I could not find them for about 30 minutes due to the gray color of the carpet.

That was the last day I touched those lol. Love the idea, love the effect, it looks freakingly awesome and will floor audience, but I don't think it's practical for everyone.

Audience that is familiar with Contacts won't be very surprised, I think. As we've already got Contacts with various designs. But still, for most laymen, this is a good trick. I love it, good job, and have fun for those who are getting this.
[/quote]

Agree, it would look stunning with good build up and nice combining routine.
It is a shame that I am not suitable for wareing contact lenses due to my eyes condition.
I am just so jealous.....
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 11, 2010 02:38PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-11 14:44, dblast wrote:
Peter that link is no good it goes to a hosting service.
[/quote]

Here is the proper link dblast! http://www.alakazam-usa.com
Message: Posted by: TrickyEric (Aug 11, 2010 04:45PM)
Looks like a cool product, but I am a contacts user and can't see a thing without them. Not going to wear glasses to accomplish this effect. Very original though.

Anyone thought of adding this to your color changing tie routine? Just kidding.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Aug 11, 2010 05:09PM)
I'll have to admit that it is a [i]great[/i] looking effect. As for a spectator
assuming that they are contacts that [i]may[/i] be possible to some extent, but then again, since when do contacts change color when you close your eyes!

Other than that, I wear glasses and there is no way on earth I'm about to mess about with contacts at this juncture in my life. I'd really be interested in what an ophthalmologist ([i]not[/i] an optometrist) would think about these. Even if I wore contacts I would personally never place such a thing on my eye unless it had FDA approval, but that's just my opinion. Ones eyesight is nothing to mess around with.
Message: Posted by: TrickyEric (Aug 11, 2010 06:02PM)
Gaffed brings up a good point. They say these are safe when used properly, but like he said, you're putting your eyesight on the line believing that statement.

That said, I have no reason to believe it is unsafe when used properly. Just be careful guys, please. This thing looks really cool.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 12, 2010 06:42AM)
On another note, I have already pre-ordered. But like all new products when made in Mass production. What is the Policy on Product Defects? How can one tell that the Specifications with Berk, were not met with say your product? SInce this is something that once used cannot be returned, how can one find out WITHOUT putting them on and is there something in place with defected products?
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 12, 2010 08:29AM)
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At ~$80.00 for the effect that lasts 6-12 months once opened, am I going to have to pay $80 to replenish it 2 times a year... Even at 1 times a year???

That's an obnoxious amount of money!!!!
.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Aug 12, 2010 12:10PM)
Sorry Guys the correct link is http://www.alakazam-usa.com

Feel free to check out the site and join our email list to keep up to date on all our up coming products. We have a few killers due before Xmas.

Best Regards

Peter Nardi
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 12, 2010 12:40PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-12 09:29, Salby wrote:
.
At ~$80.00 for the effect that lasts 6-12 months once opened, am I going to have to pay $80 to replenish it 2 times a year... Even at 1 times a year???

That's an obnoxious amount of money!!!!
.
[/quote]

I asked this but there still seems to be a debate about it. With that being said I DID preorder from Penguin and it says in an email they sent me that "refills will be available after release!"
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 12, 2010 06:20PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-12 07:42, paisa23 wrote:
On another note, I have already pre-ordered. But like all new products when made in Mass production. What is the Policy on Product Defects? How can one tell that the Specifications with Berk, were not met with say your product? SInce this is something that once used cannot be returned, how can one find out WITHOUT putting them on and is there something in place with defected products?
[/quote]

Any feedback on this?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 12, 2010 06:56PM)
Peter and myself will do our best to keep you all up to date with the product.. Like anything, if the product is faulty you'd be able to tell by looking them over which you would do if you were going to do the effect as the very first thing required is to clean the gimmicks..

If anything is wrong with the gimmicks we'd replace the faulty ones but rest assured these are being produced by a quality company and I have personally had te gimmicks myself for the past three weeks. You do need to look after them and care is required with anything of this nature..

I value my sight as much as anyone and whenever I do this effect I am extremely hygienic and very very careful. Naturally we cannot be responsible for misuse, bad hygiene etc. Much like purchasing a firework, used correctly it is safe, but bad use can be dangerous.. or like driving a car after three or four beers.

There will be a replacement system in place as you obviously don't need endless amounts of DVDs.
The product lifespan is determined by a number of factors. If you use them everyday you may get six months with care.

What I consider 'normal' use, two to three times a week, you should get a year. We have supplied a PDF guide about caring for your gimmicks and 'IF' you follow Berk's guidance and the PDF guide you'll be fine. BUT it does ultimately depend on you.

I have had the same UFO 3 since it's release, however a good friend of mine is on his 3rd, not due to anything more than mine being looked after and his chucked in a bag at the end of a gig..

Just to let you know next week I am away in Indonesia performing and Peter will be away to so whilst we will do our best to update here we may not be able to as much as we would like so please bare with us.

Thank you for your interest and good thoughts...

MS
Message: Posted by: thoughtthief10 (Aug 12, 2010 07:08PM)
Does this also come with the Spelmann beanie hat?

Brian,
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 12, 2010 07:17PM)
That unfortunately is a bonus extra or Biokinesis the delux edition.. ;)
Message: Posted by: thoughtthief10 (Aug 12, 2010 07:25PM)
I will have to wait for the delux edition..lol.Anyway have a great time in Indonesia, Im sure you will leave your audience spelbound! Love your stuff.


Brian,
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 12, 2010 08:07PM)
Thanks Brian.. I love your stuff.. Well except the socks on the bedroom floor.. ;)
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 12, 2010 11:58PM)
Marc, perfect answer to my question... As long as it was already something that was thought about I am ok with that. I use Normal Color Contacts yearly. Come close to Halloween or an even I will begin to train my eyes to getting use to having contacts in your eyes. Most All FX contacts come with about a 6 month life span but that is of course if you are the few that wear them every day. I have had some (I have 7 pairs) last I well over two years but that is because I do not wear them all the time.... Now people who preorder or order this be aware that by my understanding practicing this at home all that time adds to the life span of the Specs. Just be careful and pay attention to all the instruction that the PDF will state because contacts can be as Delicate as Loop, and as tough as Kevlar... you just have to learn how to interact with them... Still very excited and hoping I can have and practice these before September for my wedding... I have decided that since I am doing my own vowels and the Mayor of Roselle Park NJ will be the ordain Minister when I start my vows that is when I will Activate the spirits from beyond to help me in declaring my love... By the by, friends of mine on here if you want to know more about me here is my Face book address. Just state you’re from the Café and I will add...


http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=505202382
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Aug 13, 2010 10:54AM)
Combine this one with impromptu card tricks such as Nervous Aces in Aldo's DVD, I think it's a kill. Just pretend by closing our eyes while we listen to the spectator when they deal the card one by one. Then when it arrives at their card, we open our eyes and looking straight at theirs by saying "That was your card".

Well, some of them might just fall off from the chair, fainted, or scream their lung out :P
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Aug 14, 2010 09:05PM)
I hate to buy extra´s after receiving an effect...

Do I have to buy something extra with this or does it come complete as a complete package as it should be?

Best,
John
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 15, 2010 06:13AM)
The DVD & Gimmicks are supplied but the extra two things you'd need are available at any Pharmacy or drug store. The shipping costs and packaging would have added another $50 to the price of the product when a trip to the local pharmacy will be far less for most.

MS
Message: Posted by: DT3 (Aug 15, 2010 11:21AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-30 16:25, roblane wrote:
I pre-ordered this as soon as I saw the demo. Then I thought 'contacts hmmmm, not so sure'. But there are so many possibilities with this my head is spinning. As a hobbyist, I'm very aware how difficult it is ( nigh impossible) to convince family of any potential 'powers'. My thought is to use this with Don Theo III's. wonderful Svenvelope. When attempting to 'read' the first word, go into a 'trance' ( cue eye change). Even though you 'fail' to get the word, the idea that 'something' happened to you whilst trying will be very strong, particularly if you feign no knowledge of exactly what has happened to you. A shake of the head followed by, ' wow, that felt strange', should do it. What do you all think?
[/quote]

Thanks for the mention Roblane. I find this effect to be very interesting. And I think you bring up a good point that instead of trying to use this as an effect itself it is much more powerful when used as part of an experience.

D
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 15, 2010 11:31AM)
That's how Berk Eratay uses his creation. He would go into an altered state in order to mind read via communication with a passed person. His eyes would change to indicate that he now had the ability.

I think it has to be a subtlety that enhances the main effect.

MS
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Aug 15, 2010 12:53PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-13 11:54, Failed Magician wrote:
Combine this one with impromptu card tricks such as Nervous Aces in Aldo's DVD, I think it's a kill. Just pretend by closing our eyes while we listen to the spectator when they deal the card one by one. Then when it arrives at their card, we open our eyes and looking straight at theirs by saying "That was your card".

Well, some of them might just fall off from the chair, fainted, or scream their lung out :P
[/quote]

Ah !
Why not use "what's your futur hold" from Rich Marotta ! lol
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Aug 19, 2010 03:57PM)
Whats the news Marc?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 19, 2010 04:07PM)
Yeah I was about to look for this, don't want this topic going away to far.... Any news?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Aug 21, 2010 04:23AM)
Hi Guys & Gals.. I'm currently in Indonesia with limited time as I'm on a tight schedule..

We are having some discussions with Murphy's Magic Supplies, way to much to write in terms of details but suffice to say 'Biokinesis' is still in production stages, DVD filmed but may need to add a few elements..

Will update and make an official announcement soon but please rest assured if you pre ordered it's on it's way as soon as we finish our discussions..

MS
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 21, 2010 02:00PM)
Sounds good Marc.
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Aug 22, 2010 11:10PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-13 00:58, paisa23 wrote:
Still very excited and hoping I can have and practice these before September for my wedding... I have decided that since I am doing my own vowels and the Mayor of Roselle Park NJ will be the ordain Minister when I start my vows that is when I will Activate the spirits from beyond to help me in declaring my love...

[/quote]

Careful, that could be the shortest marriage in history... If your beloved bride passes that test, though, she's definitely "the one."
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Aug 23, 2010 02:18AM)
***ed perfect for use with a demonstration of "XRAY VISION."

Benny
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 23, 2010 02:50AM)
I told my fiancee I was gonna do this at our wedding next year and she was like."you better not!!!" It's totally something I would do too! :)
Message: Posted by: prizna (Aug 23, 2010 03:02AM)
Has anyone had trouble with the Alakazam UK site, I tried to go on but was warned that it may be harmful to my computer, I thought it would be safe so I went a head to the site anyway, then I was attacked by a virus (luckily my anti-virus software blocked it) so it seems something may be wrong with the site.
Message: Posted by: Bernard Sim (Aug 23, 2010 03:12AM)
I too experienced the virus attack. My anti-virus blocked it and my laptop was shut down.
Message: Posted by: roblane (Aug 23, 2010 03:29AM)
Same here ( in UK) .Page blocked, would appear their site has been hacked.
Message: Posted by: Havens (Aug 23, 2010 03:51AM)
Yep, am getting the same warning. Luckily I'm on a Mac so they can't do much damage. Will probably take a day or so to clear the infected files and get Google to pass the site as clean. Hopefully it'll be back tomorrow.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Aug 23, 2010 07:30PM)
Wow.....that's really weird as I own and run a forum site albeit not magic related. It was also just attacked today and is not accessible! Yes, I realize it's just a coincidence, but still!! :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Aug 24, 2010 12:35AM)
The problem has been sorted now & the website seems fine now.

Cheers
Mark
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 24, 2010 11:44PM)
Not letting this thread get passed the first page.... Any news on release? I wsa hoping for mid August... My wedding is on the 10th of Sept. And I leave here on the third.
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 25, 2010 12:40AM)
You might be s.o.l. man. I heard it won't ship till end of August if all goes according to plan. Hope that's not the case bc I would love to hear you did this at your wedding! lol.
Message: Posted by: LeeAlex2002 (Aug 25, 2010 02:56AM)
30th August is the date I got straight from the horses mouth - and that is if all the parts are delivered on time.

Posted: Aug 25, 2010 4:01am
30th August is the date I got straight from the horses mouth - and that is if all the parts are delivered on time.
Message: Posted by: Christophe Rossi (Aug 25, 2010 09:32AM)
Very powefull effect ...
Just not for me and for my style ...
May be for halloween ?
Anyway looks great ...
C.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 25, 2010 11:47AM)
Argh that will be a bummer. However Marc if you or Berk Deal with Hocus-pocus I might be able to have them ship to my moms in Jersey.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 26, 2010 02:55PM)
HEY! No second page... LOL any news guys?
Message: Posted by: Havens (Aug 27, 2010 03:18AM)
Was going to order Biokinesis from Alakazam today but it's disappeared from the site.

Posted: Aug 27, 2010 8:16am
Update: Just spoke to Alakazam UK and it's been taken off the site due to the bank holiday sale which it is exempt from, though it does appear to still be on the USA site.
Message: Posted by: roblane (Aug 27, 2010 10:25AM)
Are we still looking at next week for the release?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 27, 2010 02:23PM)
Well unless it does and get to me in TX before the 3rd, I will not be doing this at the wedding :(
Message: Posted by: Havens (Aug 28, 2010 04:19AM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-27 11:25, roblane wrote:
Are we still looking at next week for the release?
[/quote]

I was told mid-September by Alakazam.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Aug 28, 2010 05:19AM)
Me being a FX-contact wearer on a constant basis, I have so many questions on this.

First off... Can this be done with the contacts I presently own? Or, are the contacts that come with this (White-Out) specifically cut to serve a specific purpose, as in the effect itself?

Also... How long is it possible to be plain-eyed before revealing the effect? Basically, how comfortable are the Tacs in-top or side-off of the eye before revealing the effect? Same goes for the opposite?


I feel, me owning many Sclera-contact lenses (these are lenses which cover the entire eye, including the white part, which the white part is the "Sclera").


Much more to be asked, but I will leave it as this.


BTW, anyone of my fellow magicians on here who visit Facebook, I have some great pics of my lenses I wore on vacation documented on my page. Each eye color matches the out-fit I am wearing, pretty cool! PM me for facebook info, would looove to become friends with as many of my fellow Magi friends as possible! :)


Thanks :)


Paul
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 29, 2010 09:18PM)
ANYTHING ANYONE?
Message: Posted by: Navy (Aug 30, 2010 12:00AM)
Interesting as I never heard of the effect until Ellusionist on Facebook stated that they had to pull out due to the fact that the purchaser would have to get a prescription. They pulled out, probably fear of a lawsuit. I did a bit more research and ordered a set yesterday. *** I wanted to get one with a prescription. First magic trick I would ever own that required a prescription. Just joking. Anyway, I was told they should ship around September 1st from the company I purchased mine from.

Posted: Aug 30, 2010 1:04am
One more comment....Looks like it might be difficult to do. I never wore contacts. I wanted a set, and my Doctor mentioned that I did not have the type of (can't think of the word) but in his opinion I would not take to contacts.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Aug 30, 2010 07:08PM)
Looks like it vanished from all magic sites.... So I'm guessing no more release?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 30, 2010 08:40PM)
Well that's not good, I already preoredered and havent gotten a notification email or anything from Hocus.
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 31, 2010 12:36AM)
I preordered as well! WTF??????
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Aug 31, 2010 01:15AM)
Keep me updated! I was looking forward to this
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Aug 31, 2010 03:58AM)
It's still on Penguin! That's where I preordered mine.
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Aug 31, 2010 05:40AM)
We need updates!!
I don't want to preorder without knowing what's going on
Message: Posted by: Havens (Aug 31, 2010 08:56AM)
The bank holiday sale is over and it's back on Alakazam. http://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-BioKinesis-By-Berk-Eratay.html
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Aug 31, 2010 10:09AM)
LOL, Marc come and calm the villagers. I am begining to see this thread light up with pitch forks and torches. IS IT ALIVE!!!!
Message: Posted by: Navy (Aug 31, 2010 03:13PM)
I got mine from MJM and we are on.

http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/biokinesis-by-berk-eratay-and-inner-mind-productions-%C3%82%E2%80%93-preorder-p-11418.html

Posted: Aug 31, 2010 4:16pm
Although I do not know where MJM is from. Perhaps this is a California issue since Ellusionist and Hocus are from Ca. Just a guess.

Posted: Sep 1, 2010 3:08pm
Here it is from the horses mouth.

Hi Jerry - We are going back and forth with the supplier and vendor about this as we speak. Apparently, unbeknown to us (and quite frankly, with ALL dealers) is that a law was recently passed that says you need a prescription to purchase contact lenses in the USA (or something along those lines).

Of course, no one knew this, and no dealers were told about this when we were given the "green light" to take preorders on them.

So we are now trying to find alternative ways to get these products into the hands of our customers. Now, the current word (as of ten minutes ago when I hung up with the supplier) is that they're exploring options to sell the effect MINUS the contact lenses at a cheaper price, and then the customer will have to simply purchase the contacts on their own. If that happens, we will be refunding all our customers the adjusted cost of the product minus the lenses (or issuing full refunds if they don't want to get lenses on their own).

That is option one.

Another option is we're seeing if we can still fill the orders for those who preordered it (perhaps by getting it shipped to them from outside the US), and then stopping all future orders from this point forward until the industry can figure out what to do about this situation.

That's all I have at this moment. I have more meetings with the supplier later today to see if they have come up with any other solutions. I will be letting all our preorder customers know whatever is decided as soon as I get some answers.

I basically let MJM know if I can't get them directly that I would want a full refund. Hope this helps everyone.....
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Sep 1, 2010 02:28PM)
Well that's......unfortunate!
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Sep 1, 2010 04:06PM)
God bless good ol' Europe
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Sep 1, 2010 06:00PM)
Well the packages must be ready soon.
It is funny cause the materials are not exactly contact lenses, I mean the compound and the usage is different...
Hope they will find a way for USA!
Message: Posted by: GavinK (Sep 2, 2010 12:09AM)
Had a feeling this would happen because I knew about the prescription for contacts rule. I was hoping that some would get shipped before the item got pulled. Don't know how it's gonna play out for US dealers (Penguin Magic is where I ordered mine), here's hoping it gets shipped anyway.
Message: Posted by: Navy (Sep 2, 2010 01:08AM)
I basically wrote MJM and if they can't deliver and are only sending instructions at a lower price and have to get them on the outside, I'll request a full refund. Perhaps they can arrange to mail them outside the USA which is the only way out at this time...
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Sep 2, 2010 02:08AM)
WHoa... that's not good . Hocus-pocus what say you?
Message: Posted by: supermonster (Sep 2, 2010 03:07AM)
Penguin magic said to me yesterday evening that they have it already and it's big seller?? Wft? Why there are no reviews then?
Message: Posted by: iluzjonista (Sep 2, 2010 05:04AM)
Is there any european dealer who sell it at the moment?
Message: Posted by: LeeAlex2002 (Sep 2, 2010 05:26AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 04:07, supermonster wrote:
Penguin magic said to me yesterday evening that they have it already and it's big seller?? Wft? Why there are no reviews then?
[/quote]

This has not arrived at the wholesalers yet - how can Penguin stock this?
Message: Posted by: supermonster (Sep 2, 2010 06:53AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 06:26, LeeAlex2002 wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 04:07, supermonster wrote:
Penguin magic said to me yesterday evening that they have it already and it's big seller?? Wft? Why there are no reviews then?
[/quote]
This has not arrived at the wholesalers yet - how can Penguin stock this?
[/quote]
I don't know, I asked beacuse it says ''This item is expected to arrive on August 30th, 2010'' and it's 2nd september in Finland... I used penguin chat and someone told me they have it, but they have not updated it on site. And they told me it has been very big seller. I don't know then...

[quote]
On 2010-09-02 06:04, iluzjonista wrote:
Is there any european dealer who sell it at the moment?
[/quote]
I asked from Finnish dealer ''www.markkupurho.fi'' and they said that they will probabaly sell it, when they get it (or if they get it).
I wear crazy lenses and I have never needed prescription, so I think it's possible to sell them here.
Message: Posted by: Navy (Sep 2, 2010 03:23PM)
My update from MJM as of five minutes ago.

"Jerry - No worries. I have no problem issuing you a full refund to your PayPal account (or a store credit towards something else if you prefer). I am just waiting on a FINAL answer from the supplier next week. I am about 90% sure that we will not be able to supply the lenses, mainly because the company we purchase these from is probably not going to ship them to any dealers that way. Therefore, it's like tying our hands before we even have a chance to decide if we want to send lenses or not, because it appears as though we won't be given any lenses due to the laws in the USA:

I requested a full refund, which is not a problem on their end. Do not want a store credit.

Posted: Sep 2, 2010 4:33pm
Supermonster....I just got off the phone with six magic dealers and also the distributor. All told me as of no this is not going to be distributed. I do not know if Penguin has something special worked out, or if they are working with hope that it will go through. Everyone has told me including the distributor that it is not going to happen at this time...

Posted: Sep 2, 2010 4:36pm
Hocus Pocus is not offering them right now unless they are allowed to be sold in the US.

Posted: Sep 2, 2010 5:05pm
Just got my refund and I am done with this.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Sep 2, 2010 04:47PM)
Wow! Glad I didn't preorder
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Sep 2, 2010 05:33PM)
WAit, WHAT? ima have to contact HP about this. Marc what is the news brother?
Message: Posted by: Navy (Sep 2, 2010 05:35PM)
Hiphopperco....I do not think it is an issue of having problems with a pre-order. I did and had no problem getting my money returned to my paypal account. What I am wondering is, if you buy it from another country can it be shipped here with all the parts. One of MJM's ideas was to ship it from another country. Out of all the shops I spoke to today, they cannot sell it here (USA).....
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Sep 2, 2010 06:26PM)
This is an email I wrote to Acar over at Penguin last night!

Hi Acar,

Lou Cirulli from Buffalo, NY here. Had a quick question for you! I understand
there has been a little issue with Biokinesis! I preordered from you guys and
was just wondering if you knew what the 411 was on this item?! Will you guys
still be shipping these out? Thanks Acar and hope you are well.

Lou Cirulli

Just got a response back 40 minutes ago!

Hi Lou, sorry for the bad news, but yeah there was a slight delay. The product needs to be repackaged to comply with the laws here in the states. So we're working with the manufacturer on it as quickly as possible. I hope to have an update for you on that really soon.
Message: Posted by: supermonster (Sep 3, 2010 03:28AM)
Ok, I understand they can't sell it in USA but what about Europe?
Message: Posted by: Kakuna (Sep 3, 2010 08:27AM)
I don't think there would be a problem selling in Europe, I heard about the US regulations about this some years ago. The effect is something I would use on a TV special for example, or in a halloween gig. It's def amazing.

K
Message: Posted by: Navy (Sep 3, 2010 11:52AM)
Lou, I talked about ten dealers yesterday and the distributor and the bottom line is, they are not allowed to sell the product in the United States. The dealers within the US can ship to other countries. I do not know what Penguin has up their sleeve. If they figure a way to sell it in the US then they will be the only one.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Sep 4, 2010 01:44AM)
So whats the news guys this was supposed to be released beginning of late august early september
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Sep 4, 2010 02:32AM)
Hocus Pocus offered me a cash refund for $77 or a $100 store credit. I took the credit.
Hocus Pocus is a class act.
James
Message: Posted by: InfinityDream (Sep 4, 2010 03:19AM)
One word: WOW!!!!

This is effect is perfect to kill my mor-in-law...

:D

-Antonio
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Sep 4, 2010 06:39AM)
I am not getting a response back from SM Productionz, which is where I purchased mine.

I have never pre-ordered anything before except recently. Both times things have gone wrong. No more pre-orders for me, ever.
Message: Posted by: cheekychap (Sep 4, 2010 07:37AM)
I posted about the USA law ages ago in this post, and said there would be problem
FDA now considers all contact lens a medical device (this includes plano lenses) and can only be sold with the involvement of a Eye Care Professional.

Let's clarify exactly what the law is
and how it effects you:

Everyone's eyes are different. Correct? The law states that you must have a contact lens fitting on file with an eye care professional within the past year even if you do not need prescription lenses. This ensures that our stock theatrical lenses will fit you properly and that you have been instructed on how to care for contact lenses. C'mon guys... these are your EYES! So many things... bad, evil, things can happen to your vision if you wear lenses that don't fit properly or if you don't clean and care for them properly!!! Imagine buying a pair of shoes that were 3 sizes too small... and wearing them for an entire month! You could wreck your feet! Well, multiply that by 1000 and that's what it's like wearing contact lenses that don't fit!!

Even if you do not have an eye doctor you can still go and get a contact lens fitting! Even some Wal-Mart locations have a vision center and you can get a lens fitting for under $50 in most cases! This fitting is good for an entire year!

[quote]
On 2010-08-03 09:05, cheekychap wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-08-03 08:49, daffydoug wrote:
Am I understanding this correctly: When I buy this effect the law commands me to go see an eye doctor???
[/quote]

I'm unsure, but it looks that way in certain countries, or states, because everyones eyeballs are all different shapes, and sizes, and I wondered how this effect stands on peoples eyes who may not match up, which is a very important point to all, especially those intend on wearing them all day, as constant lens wear has been associated with corneal ulcers, which can lead rapidly to internal ocular infection
so it not to good, if this is a fact on the lenses being sold

heres a bit more write up on the FDA law, and quite interesting :-

Guidance for Industry, FDA Staff, Eye Care Professionals, and Consumers
Decorative, Non-corrective Contact Lenses
This guidance represents the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA's) current thinking on this topic. It does not create or confer any rights for or on any person and does not operate to bind FDA or the public. You can use an alternative approach if the approach satisfies the requirements of the applicable statutes and regulations. If you want to discuss an alternative approach, contact the FDA staff responsible for implementing this guidance. If you cannot identify the appropriate FDA staff, call the appropriate number listed on the title page of this guidance.
Introduction

On November 9, 2005, section 520(n) was added to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) by Public Law 109-96 to establish that all contact lenses are devices under section 201(h) of the Act. Because all contact lenses are now regulated as devices, including decorative, non-corrective contact lenses intended only to change the normal appearance of the eye, all contact lenses must be the subject of a cleared premarket notification (510(k)) or an approved premarket approval application (PMA) before they may be legally marketed. Additional device authorities, such as the requirement that lenses be dispensed only upon a prescription order, also apply. This guidance explains how section 520(n) affects FDA’s regulation of non-corrective contact lenses intended to change the appearance or color of a normal eye for decorative use.

FDA's guidance documents, including this guidance, do not establish legally enforceable responsibilities. Instead, guidances describe the Agency's current thinking on a topic and should be viewed only as recommendations, unless specific regulatory or statutory requirements are cited. The use of the word should in Agency guidances means that something is suggested or recommended, but not required.
The Least Burdensome Approach

We believe we should consider the least burdensome approach in all areas of medical device regulation. This guidance reflects our careful review of the relevant scientific and legal requirements and what we believe is the least burdensome way for you to comply with those requirements. However, if you believe that an alternative approach would be less burdensome, please contact us so we can consider your point of view. You may send your written comments to the contact person listed in the preface to this guidance or to the CDRH Ombudsman. Comprehensive information on CDRH's Ombudsman, including ways to contact him, can be found on the Internet.
I. Background

FDA is aware of the distribution and use of non-corrective contact lenses that are used to change the normal appearance of the eye in a decorative fashion, such as with colors or designs (decorative contact lenses). Decorative contact lenses that do not have FDA premarket authorization have been marketed directly to consumers. Consumers have used such lenses without the benefit of a valid prescription.

Without a valid prescription, fitting, supervision, or regular check-ups by a qualified eye care professional, decorative contact lenses, like all contact lenses, can cause a variety of serious injuries or conditions. For example, lens wear has been associated with corneal ulcer, which can lead rapidly to internal ocular infection if left untreated. Uncontrolled infection can cause corneal scarring, which can lead to vision impairment, and in extreme cases, blindness or the loss of an eye. Other risks include conjunctivitis; corneal edema (swelling); allergic reaction; abrasion from poor lens fit; reduction in visual acuity, contrast sensitivity, and other visual complications that can interfere with driving and other activities.

Because of these risks, contact lenses, including decorative contact lenses that are non-corrective, are not safe for use except under the supervision of a practitioner licensed by law to direct the use of such devices. The Agency believes that these risks cannot be sufficiently controlled unless the wearer does the following under professional supervision:

* Obtains advice about using contact lenses;
* Has a valid prescription;
* Has the lenses fitted properly; and
* Remains under appropriate professional care for contact lens use.

II. How does recent legislation affect FDA’s regulation of contact lenses?

FDA has reviewed premarket notification submissions (510(k)s) under section 510(k) of the Act (21 U.S.C. 360(k)) and premarket approval applications (PMAs) under section 515 of the Act (21 U.S.C. 360(e)) for most corrective and non-corrective contact lenses marketed in the United States, including certain decorative contact lenses intended to change the appearance of a normal eye. All currently approved or cleared decorative contact lenses are legally marketed only as prescription devices (21 CFR 801.109). However, some non-corrective, decorative contact lenses have not been reviewed by FDA and are sold without a prescription. Although FDA had taken the position that contact lenses intended solely for decorative use may be regulated as cosmetics under section 201(i) of the Act, enactment of section 520(n) requires that all contact lenses be regulated as devices.

Thus, all contact lenses in commercial distribution, including decorative contact lenses that are non-corrective, require either a cleared 510(k), an approved PMA, or an exemption for investigational use (IDE). Without such premarket authorization by FDA, decorative contact lenses are adulterated under section 501(f)(1)(B) of the Act (21 U.S.C. 351(f)(1)(B)), and misbranded under section 502(o) of the Act (21 U.S.C. 352(o)).
III. Can manufacturers, importers, distributors, or retailers market decorative contact lenses as over-the-counter products?

No. Decorative contact lenses should not be marketed or made available to consumers by manufacturers, importers, distributors, or retailers as an over-the counter item. Manufacturers or initial importers should cease distribution of the devices and submit to FDA an appropriate premarket notification for clearance or application for approval if they intend to distribute any type of non-corrective contact lenses, including decorative lenses used to change the appearance of a normal eye. Guidance for 510(k) submissions for contact lenses is located at Premarket Notification (510(k)) Guidance Document for Daily Wear Contact Lenses. Contact lenses, including decorative, non-corrective contact lenses, are also subject to general controls of the Act, including the Quality System regulation (21 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 820), and other applicable device regulations and statutory requirements, including conformance with labeling requirements such as 21 CFR 801.109.
IV. Are manufacturers, importers, distributors, or retailers subject to inspection by FDA?

Yes. FDA has inspected several firms distributing decorative contact lenses and warned firms that selling decorative contact lenses without a valid prescription or proper labeling that includes information about the risks and proper instructions for safe use violates federal law. FDA has also alerted mass marketing firms and operators of on-line sites about the risks associated with decorative contact lenses distributed without appropriate eye care professional involvement.
V. How are imported lenses affected by FDA’s law?

A s devices, imported decorative contact lenses that do not comply with applicable premarket device requirements are subject to detention without physical examination under the procedures described in FDA’s Import Alert #89-08, “Detention without Physical Examination of Devices without Approved PMA’s or IDE’s and Other Devices not Equivalent or no 510(k)” (see also section 801 of the act, 21 U.S.C. 381). The import alert instructs FDA personnel and officials of the United States Customs Service to detain automatically all devices presented at the United States ports of entry that are in violation of federal law. Import Alert #89-08, can be accessed on the Internet.
VI. Can consumers still buy contact lenses used for decorative purposes only?

Yes, if there is a valid prescription. As when buying all contact lens, consumers should be seen by an eye care professional and obtain proper fitting and instructions for using a contact lens. These devices present significant risks of eye injuries, including blindness, if distributed without a valid prescription and the involvement of a qualified eye care professional and appropriate follow-up care.

More information for consumers on the use of decorative lenses can be found on FDA’s web site http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/ PressAnnouncements/2004/ucm108366.htm.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Sep 4, 2010 08:48AM)
Uhhh... let's not.
This is a dead issue. Get a refund.
James
ps
Cheeky, I am truly sorry you could not pass the bar exam. Try again next year.

[quote]
On 2010-09-04 08:37, cheekychap wrote:

Let's clarify exactly what the law is
and how it effects you:
[/quote]
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: bsmith (Sep 4, 2010 03:39PM)
"free country" laugh out loud
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Sep 4, 2010 06:49PM)
I heard from SM Productionz and they said they are waiting for the units from Berk.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Sep 4, 2010 07:15PM)
Emailed HP. just waiting to hear back.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Sep 5, 2010 12:22PM)
I made an earlier statement about this thing and not having FDA approval and that without such I’d never take a chance with my eyesight. Of course I’m 63 and have never worn contacts so I wouldn’t even venture to try and do so now at this late date aside from this just not being my thing as it were.

If FDA approval were not needed for contact lenses can you imagine the plethora of crazy and weird contact lenses that would be available and sold in all of those kiosks at shopping malls to all of those freaked out teenagers with multiple body piercings! Some years ago when I was getting my eyes examined I figured I would ask about using contacts. The doctor, and I can’t for the life of me remember the exact reasoning, said that contacts are just not suitable to me and refused to prescribe them for me.

Now, doesn’t that tell you [i]something[/i] about the safety of this and how you could possibly take a chance in harming your eyesight? This isn’t like taking a chance with something that uses flash paper and the slight possibility of burning your finger tips. This is your [b][i]eyes[/i][/b] and once you damage them....that’s it!
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 5, 2010 05:29PM)
[quote]
Now, doesn’t that tell you [i]something[/i] about the safety of this and how you could possibly take a chance in harming your eyesight? This isn’t like taking a chance with something that uses flash paper and the slight possibility of burning your finger tips. This is your [b][i]eyes[/i][/b] and once you damage them....that’s it!
[/quote]

I too am very cautious with my eyes and eyesight. I can't wear contacts period because my blink reflex is so strong.

Having said, that, just because its illegal in the US doesn't necc mean a ***ed things. Our laws are written by politicians for political reasons. Despite every unbiased study showing its much safer then either tobacco or alcohol, cannabis remains illegal in this country (and misclassified as a schedule C substance, which it isn't by the definition of schedule C.)

And it was made illegal to begin with solely because it threatened Hearst's economic interests and he used his newspapers to whip up a political frenzy over it. So while I'd rather have an FDA then not have it, its hardly a body of perfect scientific virtue.
Message: Posted by: catweazle (Sep 5, 2010 05:54PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-05 18:29, Cyberqat wrote:
[quote]
So while I'd rather have an FDA then not have it, its hardly a body of perfect scientific virtue.
[/quote]

I agree the drug thing started because people that were in power didn't like people that were different.
the contact lens issue and the FDA has probably got more to do with professional protectionism than safety, I have witnessed similar things first hand.
Message: Posted by: LeeAlex2002 (Sep 6, 2010 09:24AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-04 19:49, slyhand wrote:
I heard from SM Productionz and they said they are waiting for the units from Berk.
[/quote]

Surely these are coming from Peter at Alakazam?
Berk is away at the moment until 18th September. Can anyone at Alakazam or Murphy's give us an update (Murphys still have this as pre-order on theri site)?
Message: Posted by: SpellMagic (Sep 6, 2010 01:24PM)
Hello this is europe ! So I love penguin magic, but I never believe that they have allready this item. In europe it was exclusivly presnett by inner mind productions (Alakazam). I ordered this iteam as one of the first many weeks ago. And until today there is no one go out from alakazam.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Sep 6, 2010 06:57PM)
I would venture to say that if ever possible I order all of my magic from Penguin as their service, shipping and return policy is amazing. However, they need to update their site in regards to this product as it doesn’t make any sense. They have right next to the product: [b]LIMITED QTY ARRIVING IN 14 DAYS. ORDER NOW TO RESERVE YOURS.[/b] And then below that: [i]This item is expected to arrive on August 30th, 2010. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.[/i]

Other than that I just don’t think this effect is going to wash out here in the U.S. due to FDA regulations, and rightfully so. Yes, yes, I fully well realize that the FDA is just one of the many bureaucratic agencies that we have and most of them, if not all, are full of b.s. but I feel they are fully justified in this area.

Other than that, I just don’t get the why people feel this trick is amazing in any way. Granted, when I first watched the demo I thought to myself; “Wow, that’s pretty freaking weird looking.” And then [i]immediately[/i] thought; “Not for me, no way am I ever going to place contact lenses in my eyes.” I mean really; do you not honestly think that after the [i]initial[/i] shock from the spectator(s) that they will then simply think “contacts”? People are [i]fully[/i] aware of them from watching movies and that brain dead idiot Marilyn Manson and that they come in all types of various weird looking configurations. Exactly [i]where[/i] is the magic here? Initial shock [i]yes[/i],by all means but, after that they’ll simply walk away thinking “contacts”. Contact lenses are [i]not[/i] magical! I don’t know, perhaps I’m missing something here?
Message: Posted by: Navy (Sep 6, 2010 09:00PM)
I folded and really the entire issue is moot. At least for the moment it cannot bottom line be sold in the US and shipped within the US. Meanwhile these folks are holding your money. The fact that Hocus Pocus offered a 100.00 credit, a great company says something. The last word is it cannot be shipped from a US company to any address within the US. Perhaps it will change later, but for now, it is not going to happen.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 6, 2010 09:13PM)
The technique is pretty cool. If part of your bit is freaking people out I can see why you'ld be attracted to this.

I don't have strong feelings on the issues or potential dangers of contact lenses or how justified the FDA is. I know if *I* were doing something with contact lenses, I'd see my ophthalmologist about. that's me and my comfort levels.

Actually, if we had single payer health-care in this country I could justify the controls easier because the government would be picking up the tab for any damage you did to yourself...
Message: Posted by: Tregar (Sep 7, 2010 05:24AM)
I don't understand why it can't be sold in US as long as a contact prescription is verified either through faxing/emailing a copy of the prescription, or providing the eye Dr's contact information for verification. The sites that sell the novelty contacts such as vampfangs do this.
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Sep 8, 2010 08:32AM)
Well talked to HP and was offered the same thing. $100 instore or a refund, went with the in store. Berk and Marc please keep us updated on this cause I am still very intrested.
Message: Posted by: supermonster (Sep 8, 2010 09:38AM)
Penguin magic says know:

''Our Price: $34.95

This product is temporarily out of stock and unavailable for purchase.''

AND:

''Full Instructional DVD is included. Engineered custom gimmicks are not included in this package because of US laws prohibiting us to sell contact lenses. You will receive instructions on where to buy the custom gimmicks.''
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Sep 8, 2010 12:52PM)
Here is the latest word from Penguin!

Update on Biokinesis: Not shipping yet, change in package contents and price is coming

When we heard about Biokinesis by Berk Eratay we got extremely excited. This is one of the most dramatic and spooky effects of the year. The magician's eyes literally change color. Imagine being able to do that!! Well now you can :) Well, unfortunately... not quite yet!

Here's what happened:

Biokinesis is being manufactured Alakazam, a wonderful magic company based in the UK.

In the UK, it's perfectly fine for magic companies to sell or "dispense" contact lenses.

We assumed the laws in the US would be similar, and we started taking pre-orders on Biokinesis without realizing the US Federal Trade Commission has some very special laws regulating the sale of contact lenses.

These laws apply to both corrective and non-corrective contact lenses. All contact lenses sold in the US require a prescription, and only specific medical professionals are allowed to dispense contact lenses.

We've talked with several optometrists and all have stated clearly that wearing contact lenses can be dangerous. They recommend all users of contact lenses have an eye-exam beforehand to make sure their eyes are healthy and can safely tolerate contact lenses. They stress it's also extremely important patients are taught how to properly use and care for their contacts.

We could probably find a legal loophole, hire an optometrist, or something like that. But the law exists because contact lenses can be dangerous if improperly used. Our customers' health and safety is more important to us than anything else. If there's a chance improper use of contact lenses could cause an eye problem, we don't want to sell them. We want our customers to see an eye specialist for a checkup and proper training before using Biokinesis. Even if you're 100% sure you know how to use contact lenses properly, having an eye exam is never a bad idea (especially if you haven't had one in awhile).

We've worked with our supply chain partners and I think we've come up with a great solution. Penguin Magic will sell the Biokinesis DVD (without the contact lenses). The DVD will be much cheaper without the contact lenses (probably around $25-$35).

This will give magicians an opportunity to learn the effect and decide whether or not to buy the contact lenses. If they want to buy the contact lenses they can buy the contact lenses from a licensed dispenser in the US or directly from the manufacturer in the UK. The overall cost will be right around the original $77 we expected (possibly a bit more including shipping).

At this moment we don't have an ETA on when we'll have the Biokinesis DVDs in stock, but we expect another update within 2-3 days.

If you've pre-ordered Biokinesis we will be owing you some money. We also understand some customers may want to change their order since the package and price has changed. That's fine too. We just want to take care of you and do what's best for you. We're happy to give a refund or a store credit. If you do decide you want a store credit we'll increase the amount we owe you by 10% as a small token of our appreciation for sticking with us on this one.

I'm sorry we haven't communicated this sooner. We've only recently discovered the problem, and since that moment we've been working with our partners on this to find the best solution.

Thanks for choosing Penguin Magic. We carry some of the craziest products on the planet. The last time we had a problem like this it involved trying to ship a fancy bullet catch to Australia. Sometimes stuff like this goes with the territory. Thanks for being as outrageous as we are in your taste for products that push the limits and hanging with us.

Sincerely,

Maxwell Murphy
Penguin Magic
Message: Posted by: Havens (Sep 8, 2010 03:32PM)
Can't believe the US law is stricter than the UK's. Over here you can't fart without contravening some health and safety law.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Sep 8, 2010 04:15PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-08 16:32, Havens wrote:
Can't believe the US law is stricter than the UK's. Over here you can't fart without contravening some health and safety law.
[/quote]

Silent but deadly
Message: Posted by: Havens (Sep 8, 2010 04:22PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-08 17:15, hiphopperco wrote:
Silent but deadly
[/quote]

By sound or smell, they'll get you. A really bad one will also make your eyes change colour.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Sep 8, 2010 05:36PM)
Its an effect in itself no more white castle for me but I'm sure you wouldn't have to preorder to do that
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Sep 8, 2010 05:40PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-08 17:22, Havens wrote:


By sound or smell, they'll get you. A really bad one will also make your eyes change colour.
[/quote]

Well, if anything it will make your eyes water! :lol: But hey, that's much safer than what improper fitting contacts could possibly do to your eyes.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 8, 2010 08:06PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-08 16:32, Havens wrote:
Can't believe the US law is stricter than the UK's. Over here you can't fart without contravening some health and safety law.
[/quote]

The health industry is particularly regulated here.

I don't know about the UK, but in italy almost any prescription drug was available at the pharmacist if you walked in and asked for it. Here, even ibuprofen over a set dosage needs a request from your doctor.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Sep 8, 2010 10:45PM)
[quote]

The health industry is particularly regulated here.

I don't know about the UK, but in italy almost any prescription drug was available at the pharmacist if you walked in and asked for it. Here, even ibuprofen over a set dosage needs a request from your doctor.
[/quote]

As is Prevacid which is an OTC drug (which I have to take) if its over 20mg even though you can buy as much as you want and take 100mg a day if you so choose. Granted, it's a tad ridiculous, but there it is. Getting into the political arena of what the drug laws are in different countries serves no purpose. Bottom line....it is what it is. ;)
Message: Posted by: maxwell (Sep 9, 2010 03:56AM)
Maxwell from Penguin Magic here. Glad to see our update got posted.

We still think this is going to be a great effect for magicians located in the US.

There will be a little extra hassle to get the contact lenses, but not much.

For serious magicians who are going to perform the effect many times, a little one-time hassle up front (at most an eye exam) will be well worth the payoff.

The extra bit of effort required will make the effect more rare and special (and safe).

Hats off to Alakazam for another great item!
Message: Posted by: Havens (Sep 9, 2010 10:20AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-08 18:36, hiphopperco wrote:
Its an effect in itself no more white castle for me but I'm sure you wouldn't have to preorder to do that
[/quote]

I advise you pre-order 2 hours in advance, taking into account the time it takes for a good curry to digest. An impromptu version can be done with donner kebabs.
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Sep 13, 2010 04:33AM)
Any news?
Message: Posted by: joseph (Sep 13, 2010 05:55AM)
I'm keeping an eye out for more info...
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Sep 13, 2010 06:55AM)
Newsletter from today:

1.) Is Biokinesis safe to perform?
Yes, providing that you watch the DVD and study it in its ENTIRETY prior to attempting any sort of performance, then there is no reason why you will experience any difficulties whatsoever.

2.) When will it actually be available?
Due to the sheer volume of gimmicks that we have had to order, there has been some delay on the initial intended release date. We are working hard to get an actual shipping date for you though.

3.) What about if I live outside the UK?
Customers that live in the USA CAN order from the USA website and the DVD AND GIMMICKS (full package) will be shipped DIRECTLY FROM THE UK store. This avoids the difficulties that some American stores are experiencing with the reselling issues.
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Sep 16, 2010 01:33PM)
Still sounds great, thanks for the update :)
Message: Posted by: Ken Lam (Sep 16, 2010 10:49PM)
I'm imagining if I ever perform this while I'm having an eye check-up at the optometry school's clinic, they will probably keep me for more serious examinations/research :D
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Sep 20, 2010 01:39AM)
Just got back from Honeymoon.. This is good news
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Sep 20, 2010 02:35AM)
Congrats on the wedding!
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Sep 26, 2010 08:06PM)
News?
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Sep 27, 2010 09:58AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-26 21:06, hiphopperco wrote:
News?
[/quote]

Thanks for the Congrats, and good news is that the us has not gotten the NO DEAL yet, that they are working for a US Release. IRONICALLY enough I just ordered some Contacts from the UK for Halloween purpose and they are on there way.
Message: Posted by: Craig Petty (Sep 29, 2010 05:50AM)
David Penn and I have a version of this coming out very soon which will not have any issues with any laws from any country. The trailer is being screened on the latest Wizard Product Review which goes live in 10 minutes.

I'll post the link when it goes live. This is going to be great.

Craig
Message: Posted by: Craig Petty (Sep 29, 2010 06:11AM)
Okay the show is now live

Would you like to perform the most amazing trick ever.

Biokinesis may look great and seem impossible but David Penn and myself have created our own version. This takes the original effect to a whole new level.

I am proud to announce the trailer for Eyeokinesis is now live.

This is going to be big.

Check it out here (the trailer starts about 6 minutes in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEuhAvO6cx0

Thanks for your interest

Craig
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Sep 29, 2010 03:11PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-29 07:11, Craig Petty wrote:
Okay the show is now live

Would you like to perform the most amazing trick ever.

Biokinesis may look great and seem impossible but David Penn and myself have created our own version. This takes the original effect to a whole new level.

I am proud to announce the trailer for Eyeokinesis is now live.

This is going to be big.

Check it out here (the trailer starts about 6 minutes in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEuhAvO6cx0

Thanks for your interest

Craig
[/quote]

Eyeokinesis.....absolutely [i]fantastic[/i]!! When is the release date? No, I'm not talking about the release date of of Eyeokinesis, but yours and David's release from the Twinkie farm! :lol: Great stuff gentlemen and keep up the great entertainment! ;)
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Sep 29, 2010 04:01PM)
One question Craig... How much?
Message: Posted by: Craig Petty (Sep 29, 2010 06:02PM)
Well Mark,

That's a good question. The price is going to be really high - hundreds of pounds

If someone wanted to change the colour of their eyes Biokinesis is a brilliant way of achieving this at a very reasonable price. Of course if they wanted to take things to the next level and were willing to pay for that, then eyeokinesis is the only way to go!!

I can send you a copy if you promise to perform it during your next television appearance!!!

Craig
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Sep 29, 2010 06:33PM)
Lol :)
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Sep 30, 2010 09:26AM)
Back on topic, the final FINAL Biokinesis DVD is being put together after a few adjustments. The gimmicks are on their way and we should be going to press within the next week.

Peter Nardi and myself would like to thank those interested in Biokinesis for their patience and ongoing support. As always it is our intention to bring out good products, unforeseen USA laws have postponed the release of Biokinesis. But we have done our best to keep the project true to it's original form.

We will update as soon as we have more information..

MS
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Sep 30, 2010 06:14PM)
Still looking forward to it, thanks for the updates Marc !
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 1, 2010 07:16PM)
So the people in UK will be getting the gimmick and the DVD while the USA will just be getting the dvd?
Message: Posted by: Piz (Oct 2, 2010 11:49AM)
^^^ That's fine with me, I have enough contacts to go around and play with :) I already have the white-out contacts seen in the demo vid. Contacts that I HIGHLY recommend are the Angelic Blue lenses (seen in my AV Pic), they almost look like they glow! Infact, my nephew calls me "Glow eye's" when I wear em :)

If anyone is looking to get contacts where they don't ask for that special something, PM me (hope this don't get me in trouble :fruity: ).



Paul
Message: Posted by: catweazle (Oct 2, 2010 11:57AM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-02 12:49, Piz wrote:
^^^ That's fine with me, I have enough contacts to go around and play with :) I already have the white-out contacts seen in the demo vid. Contacts that I HIGHLY recommend are the Angelic Blue lenses (seen in my AV Pic), they almost look like they glow! .
Paul
[/quote]

According to Alakazam, it is dangerous to use normal FX contacts with Berk's method , so you need and must use the biokinesis ones.

remember you only get one set of eyes, don't damage them for a trick, its not cool.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Oct 2, 2010 12:35PM)
^^^ That's understandable, I been wearing FX contacts for over 12 years, it depends what they mean by "normal FX contacts". I have wrote so many reviews on contact lenses it's not even funny, including Mirrored lenses (as you see in the Riddick movies) on my Lens forums.


There are many different kinds out there, hand painted, machines laser colored, etc. I feel what this effect boils down to is the thickness of the contact lens itself, as there is simply NO special way to make a FX contact lens (I can care less if it's for a trick or not). There are yearly contacts which tend to be thicker, monthlies which tend to be much thinner, daily's super thin, Etc. There are 11mm(glass lenses) 14mm, 15mm, 18mm, 20mm, 22mm, anything above 14mm will be thicker. I have some 18mm that can barely bend!


As I stated, there is no special way to make a contact lens, they are all made out of the same thing, polymers, more specifically polycrylamide (so the eye can breath). The only special thing they can do with this effect is if they cut the contact lens a certain way, but if this is the case, it would make the lens use-less.


Paul
Message: Posted by: Piz (Oct 2, 2010 01:19PM)
There is one way to release this effect to U.S. customers. At the Check-out process, ask for the phone-number to the customers eye doctor so they can be cleared to wear contacts.


Just as if I ordered lenses from Internet sites here in the states, most of the sites ask for my eye doctors phone number, and clear it through them that I have had an eye physical and am cleared to wear contact lenses. I do not see why this same process cannot be done with this effect? This is following FDA procedure and is the legal way of purchasing contact lenses here in the states.


If extra charges need to be added due to the long-distance phone call to there eye-doctor, then so be it, atleast we would be able to own this effect.



Paul
Message: Posted by: GavinK (Oct 4, 2010 06:30PM)
So as of right now is there even a link to purchase the lenses? And while on the lenses are there any specifics as to why I'd need 'special' lenses?
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 7, 2010 11:04AM)
Straight from the newsletter:

The wait is almost over - THANK YOU all most sincerely for your patience and understanding!

We are now expecting to ship out BIOKINESIS orders the LATTER part of the week commencing 18th October!
Message: Posted by: maxmaximus (Oct 12, 2010 11:37AM)
Hi,

maybe its possible to get hold of one of the alakazam guys here at the forum...i emailed alakazam magic several times but got no response...so my concern: I want to cancel my biokineses pre order and asked if its possible to change it to other items (for example instant radio v2,...)...hopefully someone from alakazam will get in contact with me via pm...

greetz max
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 12, 2010 03:36PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-12 12:37, maxmaximus wrote:
Hi,

maybe its possible to get hold of one of the alakazam guys here at the forum...i emailed alakazam magic several times but got no response...so my concern: I want to cancel my biokineses pre order and asked if its possible to change it to other items (for example instant radio v2,...)...hopefully someone from alakazam will get in contact with me via pm...

greetz max
[/quote]

They got a live chat customer support on their homepage, I had no trouble to get in contact with Peter at all.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Oct 12, 2010 04:56PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-04 19:30, GavinK wrote:
So as of right now is there even a link to purchase the lenses? And while on the lenses are there any specifics as to why I'd need 'special' lenses?
[/quote]

The lenses discussed are part of the effect and AIUI come with your order.
Message: Posted by: maxmaximus (Oct 13, 2010 08:03AM)
@rickdangerous: tried the live customer support too...we will see...
Message: Posted by: Mark Southworth (Oct 15, 2010 07:10AM)
I was at Alakazam HQ this last week filming some projects & received a master of Biokinesis & the lenses.

Firstly the dvd explains everything in great detail & Berk Shows Marc who has never worn lenses before every little detail !! I have never before worn any lenses & have been trying this out & it is great. It will take practise like everything else but Berk Teaches 3 methods ranging from Step 1 to step 3. When you understand the concept this makes the learning much quicker & practise will be required for the different techniques.

All in All a well produced dvd that goes through each & every step of the effect & also the care of your eyes, like anything you put into your eyes you are responsible for the hygiene & care of the lenses which to a novice like me explains what I wanted to know !!!

Should start to ship out of Alakazam on the 22nd October just in time for halloween !!

Mark
Message: Posted by: TM (Oct 15, 2010 01:09PM)
HEy It sure will be an awesome release, But can you tell that later for the refill will we be able to buy only the gimmicks.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 18, 2010 12:19PM)
I saw on alakazams USA website if you order from them the gimmick and dvds ship out from their UKs office
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 19, 2010 07:37PM)
Alakazam will be shipping Biokinesis @ the end of the week
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 20, 2010 08:18AM)
Just got mail that my biokinesis order has been dispatched!
Message: Posted by: roblane (Oct 20, 2010 08:41AM)
Yep, me too! Soon be freakin out the kidz!
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Oct 20, 2010 09:53AM)
Hi Guys,

Just a quick update Biokinesis is now shipping!!!

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Oct 20, 2010 07:41PM)
I ordered from SM Productionz. Are they shipping?
Message: Posted by: kieron j (Oct 21, 2010 10:24AM)
Got mine today it looks amazing going to take time to get full control but looks awsome in the mirror hope I get it down for halloween.

k
Message: Posted by: roblane (Oct 22, 2010 06:09AM)
Got mine yesterday. Haven't tried yet, but enjoying the dvd. If Mr Spelman really is a contact virgin he makes the intial part look very easy. Thanks Marc, it's given me a confidence boost watching you.
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 22, 2010 06:47AM)
Too early for reviews of course but any first thoughts?

Mine hasn't arrived yet, should be here tomorrow
Message: Posted by: roblane (Oct 22, 2010 09:54AM)
My first thoughts are: exactly what I expected but even more specialized. I think it's gonna be awesome.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 24, 2010 12:58AM)
Mine also said it was dispatched last week and I like in the USA so I am hoping to get it next week. Pumped that I don't have to go thru the hassle of getting gimmicks either
Message: Posted by: TM (Oct 24, 2010 09:18AM)
Hey, guys who have already got it pls give reviews about it. And I had one more question , after changing the colour of eyes can we blink for a while with the cat eyes in view. Thanks
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 25, 2010 04:36AM)
I LOVE IT!!! Great job Berk and Marc!!
Message: Posted by: Havens (Oct 25, 2010 07:30AM)
I received Biokinesis over the weekend and I am extremely impressed. This is exactly up my street.

The DVD is excellent and probably one of the best magic DVDs I've watched. I personally loathe instructional DVDs as they're often used to bump up the price, are frequently cheesy and I rarely care for the production, cuts and distracting edits. This has none of those faults and I genuinely enjoyed watching it. Both Marc and Berk are excellent, they come across as funny, nice guys, not as magic geeks devoid of personality and the presentation has a feeling of people sitting around a table chatting about magic and the viewer is included.

Throughout the DVD we're reminded the release is for historical documentation only. If you decide to perform there are a few pieces not included in the pack, this isn't a problem though as it's only contact lens cleaner and some eye drops, nothing to worry about and this shouldn't set you back much more than a fiver.

I already perform eye tricks and am used to putting in hay fever drops, so I was comfortable using the lenses but still found them a little tricky to put in, I'm sure this will get easier over time. Once in place the lenses were completely comfortable, I hardly knew they were there and they look very cool. The only issue I had was a little blurred vision due to some solution under one lens, this was temporary and cleared the moment I removed the lenses. To answer the above question, you can blink as many times as you like with the lenses showing and after training you'll also be able to do this with them hidden.

I tried concealing the lenses using the Stage 1 method and nailed it first time on my left eye but after that I couldn't do it again. This is going to take practice and commitment, don't expect everyone to be performing Biokinesis.

The only thing I would have liked added would have been an interview with an eye doctor, who could have explained about the lenses and eye structure etc. This would have given me a bit more confidence using the lenses.

I can foresee some small practical issues with this effect, setting up at some venues might not always be possible due to facility or hygiene issues and you may not want to drive with them in place. I also think if you're feeling a bit stressed or nervous before a gig you could struggle putting the lenses in, as you need to be calm and relaxed to do so. These will be small things to overcome and the effect is well worth the effort required. In the DVD Marc likens learning Biokinesis to learning a coin roll which is very true, you're learning a skill and you won't be able to do this right away.

I strongly recommend people respect their eyes and make sure the lenses and your hands are completely clean at all times. I've suffered an eye infection practising another, similar effect and I can't stress this enough. Marc and Berk mention this numerous times so make sure you listen to them.

This is easily one of the best effects to have come out in years and one of the few that really delivers on what's promised. What you see in the demo video is exactly what you get, there's nothing hidden from the buyer, no other gimmicks, off screen actions or angle consderations that will make this impossible to perform in the real world. A first class production, which in modern magic can be a very rare thing indeed.
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 25, 2010 07:46AM)
The previous post says it all. And yes, getting the lenses hidden is a bit of a knack thing coupled with practice.
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 25, 2010 07:47AM)
Btw. since you can wear them (hidden or not) for hours it shouldn't really be a problem to set them up in advance when your nerves are calm.
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Oct 25, 2010 04:57PM)
Ordered from SM Productionz and still no word from them. Sent messages thru their website and never get a response. Not sure why.
Message: Posted by: TM (Oct 27, 2010 10:38AM)
Hey, People who hv bought it pls give ur views , is the product worth the cost and with practice mwat is the max time you guys hv been able to keep the gimmick on. Thnx
Message: Posted by: RickDangerous (Oct 28, 2010 03:15AM)
Not really a review, just a few words:

Yes, it is worth the cost and practice. The maximum time I had the lenses in (which feel very comfortable) was 8 hours.

And you will love looking at yourself in the mirror and doing the "colour change".
The reactions you'll get from your spectators are priceless.

The DVD explains everything in great detail, no filler and Berk and Marc do a great job.

Buy it.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 28, 2010 09:03PM)
I agree with Rick. I got the DVD not too long ago and Berk and Marc go over everything that you need to know as far as history and care and different changes. Berk and Marc do a great job! I give it an A+ It takes practice but its worth it
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Oct 29, 2010 02:44AM)
You ordered from Alakazam correct? Did you also get the lenses?
Message: Posted by: TM (Oct 29, 2010 03:26AM)
Wat is the colour of the lens you get.
Message: Posted by: LeeAlex2002 (Oct 29, 2010 03:37AM)
Arigid - check out the demo video of this effect.

The gimmicks you receive allow you to perform the effect as seen on the demo video.
Message: Posted by: LeeAlex2002 (Oct 29, 2010 03:38AM)
As an aside - kudos to Russ Stevens for a great production on the DVD.
Message: Posted by: TM (Oct 29, 2010 03:49AM)
Hey does anyone know if in future can we purchase only the gimmick for this without DVD for refills.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Oct 29, 2010 05:09AM)
Yes you can.. We will be making an announcement about this soon.. MS
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 29, 2010 11:54PM)
I did order for alakazam. I live in Ohio and I received the gimmick and the dvd which was shipped from the UK. I had a gig in indiana today and floored the people there. This is without a doubt one of the best effects that I have gotten in 2010. Like I said before Marc and Berk do a fantastic job explaining everything you need to know. What you see is what you get! Not everybody can do this effect but with patience and practice you can perform this amazing effect.
Message: Posted by: magicmike30 (Oct 30, 2010 12:52AM)
So I'm in Canada can I order this DVD and get the gimmicks sent at the same shipment or do I have to see an eye doctor?
Mike
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Oct 30, 2010 04:09PM)
If you order from alakazam yes you will get the gimmicks
Message: Posted by: magicmike30 (Oct 31, 2010 07:23PM)
Cool I think I will have to order this.
Mike
Message: Posted by: TM (Nov 2, 2010 03:36PM)
Hey is the lens expected to be introduced in diff. colours?
Message: Posted by: magicmike30 (Nov 2, 2010 04:58PM)
I just placed my order and now can't wait to get this.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Nov 3, 2010 07:16AM)
The lenses will be in different colours, an announcement will be made.

In regards to price for the lenses, NON custom made lenses from various special FX lens producers that can last for up to a year are priced at £45 plus, I'm not talking about the cheap 1 month lenses which still cost £20. When Berk showed me this effect three years ago I looked into lenses then and that was the price.

Originally the price of the lenses was going to be higher but as we commissioned a high number to be produced we managed to get the price down. Remember these lenses are made to Berk's specifications and are not standard off the shelf lenses.

These are off the shelf non custom lenses at $79.50 = £50.00 approx
http://www.fxeyes.com/fxstore/shop/item.aspx?itemid=60

These are standard off the shelf lenses again not custom made at $75.00 = £47.00
http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/white.aspx

And we must remind you that you cannot do Biokinesis with these lens manufacturers as the lenses can scratch your cornier = Not good at all. If you got either of these two companies to make the Biokinesis lenses you'd pay in excess of $150 / £95.

This is not a rant at anyone, just fact about the price of the Biokinesis lenses being the best, most realistic price we could manage. The shipping charge alone for our lenses to reach us was astronomical..

Lenses are very delicate and as we say constantly on the DVD, care and handling must be paramount. Consider them like IT, they can be damaged with bad care. Trust me after a month you'll handle them easily as you'll be more used to them.

MS
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Nov 3, 2010 07:27AM)
My mistake.. 9mm http://02a5349.netsolstores.com/white.aspx is actually charging $75.00 / £47.00 for a single lens. If you want two it's $150 / £95.00. Now they ARE expensive..

MS
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Nov 3, 2010 02:44PM)
Where will these refills be available?
Message: Posted by: magicmike30 (Nov 3, 2010 03:26PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-03 15:44, Lou Cirulli wrote:
Where will these refills be available?
[/quote]

Alakazam has them.
Message: Posted by: Martyn35 (Nov 6, 2010 11:49AM)
Ok, this might be a dumb question but......


Before Alakazam were getting custom made lenses made, what was Berk using? Surely a few pairs of custom made lenses from any manufacturer would cost many hundreds of pounds each!

I have a apir of sake eyes lenses, 1mm diameer, base curve 8.6, 45% water content, o.o6 thickbess in the centre. £18.50 per pair. I cannot tell the difference between the supplied lenses or my snake eye lenses.
Message: Posted by: Martyn35 (Nov 6, 2010 11:50AM)
Last message should have read 14mm diameter....... should've out my reading specs on!!!
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Nov 12, 2010 11:40AM)
I would be only interested in this trick if it is possible to get it with BLACK lenses. Does Spellman or any other dealer or the creator has black lenses? I think white looks just dumb.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Nov 12, 2010 01:13PM)
^^^ Yes, I own these they are called "Black-Out", these are the lenses I would do this effect with as-well, Black is creepier and less "Fake" then the white lenses IMO, it would look more-so like a demon entered your soul as apposed to a zombie.


Neither one of these sites ask for that "special something" if you order over the phone, at-least in my experience they have not.



$79.99.. http://www.fxeyes.com/fxstore/shop/item.aspx?itemid=149



$69.99.. http://www.vampfangs.com/Black-Out-Lenses-p/blackoutlenses.htm


I have ordered thru both sites before, they both have great service.


Paul
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Nov 12, 2010 06:17PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-12 12:40, Memory-Jah wrote:
I would be only interested in this trick if it is possible to get it with BLACK lenses. Does Spellman or any other dealer or the creator has black lenses? I think white looks just dumb.
[/quote]

Nicely put.. I think white is more dynamic and clearly visible.. Black is okay but maybe too subtle to see at a distance.. I wouldn't say 'dumb' just not your style.. It doesn't take much to be a little more articulate on this forum.

Berk uses white most of the time and Geller loved it as did a nation called Turkey, I can't see how a colour can be classified as dumb? But hey, you know your stuff..

And it's Spelmann.. Not Spellman..
Message: Posted by: Piz (Nov 12, 2010 06:33PM)
^^^ IMO, as far as this effect is concerned, I think Black does/would go better with Blue eyes, and White for Brown eyes.

I have a buddy with dark brown eye's who tried on my Black-Out contacts years ago, and it was hard to tell the difference in his eye color. So, if you have brown eye's I would advise staying away from the Black-Outs.

Me, I have natural Blue eyes, and trust me, you can definitely tell the difference from a distance going from Blue to Black, there is a huge contrast, it's sinister. I do like the White-Out contacts though, they where actually my very first pair I ever got back some 10 yrs ago.



Paul
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Nov 12, 2010 07:16PM)
The black only look dramatic if they are sclera lenses:
http://www.google.com.tw/search?rlz=1C1_____enTW358TW358&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=sclera+lenses

You could not perform Biokinesis with scleras and you would pay about $300 for a custom fit.

White is the best color for stage. Take billiard balls for example. You would think mirrored balls would be the most visible,nope, white wins with the most light reflection.
James


[quote]
On 2010-11-12 12:40, Memory-Jah wrote:
I would be only interested in this trick if it is possible to get it with BLACK lenses. Does Spellman or any other dealer or the creator has black lenses? I think white looks just dumb.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Nov 13, 2010 06:31AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giBkeOSWm_Y

ten minutes work and I got it.. Fantastic work berk
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Nov 13, 2010 07:24PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-12 19:17, Marc Spelmann wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-11-12 12:40, Memory-Jah wrote:
I would be only interested in this trick if it is possible to get it with BLACK lenses. Does Spellman or any other dealer or the creator has black lenses? I think white looks just dumb.
[/quote]

Nicely put.. I think white is more dynamic and clearly visible.. Black is okay but maybe too subtle to see at a distance.. I wouldn't say 'dumb' just not your style.. It doesn't take much to be a little more articulate on this forum.

Berk uses white most of the time and Geller loved it as did a nation called Turkey, I can't see how a colour can be classified as dumb? But hey, you know your stuff..

And it's Spelmann.. Not Spellman..
[/quote]

Sorry for mispelling. Can you tell me if the creator is able to sell black lenses instead? Or can I order black lenses custom made from him? I really would love to do the trick with black lenses instead.

Regards,
Markus
Message: Posted by: TM (Nov 13, 2010 07:50PM)
Hey MS, any updates on when other custom colors will be available.
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Nov 13, 2010 08:02PM)
Received mine from SM Productionz and with a very nice note.
I hope to be combining it with Smoke within a month or two.
Message: Posted by: Exitmat (Nov 13, 2010 10:27PM)
My question is, what are the chances of the lenses sliding into place and "activating" unexpectedly? Is this a concern for anyone?
Message: Posted by: Havens (Nov 15, 2010 02:23AM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-13 23:27, Exitmat wrote:
My question is, what are the chances of the lenses sliding into place and "activating" unexpectedly? Is this a concern for anyone?
[/quote]

This takes practice and what the training's for but it's less of an issue than you may think. Personally I won't be performing this until it's completely nailed.

As for the coloured eyes, I love the white because of the Hulk, which is what really drew me to the effect. My eyes are also so dark that I don't think black lenses would look any different. Those with blue eyes may have a different case. What would be great is full cap black lenses, where the white's of the eye are covered but I'm not sure how possible this would be.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Nov 15, 2010 11:19AM)
I would like to note that I have contacts with the "One year done deal" label on them (as these do) that I bought over 4 years ago that are still in great condition and wear perfectly fine.


I must say I do only wear them once or twice a month, so wear time and how often will definitely help with the longevity of the lenses.


The lenses I am wearing in my AV pic to the left, I purchased them in April 09' (after my 3 yr old niece opened the lens bottle and drank my other (identical) pair :( ), and they are still in mint condition.

My Black-Out contacts along with my Dark-Elf I bought in 06', and both pairs wear as if I just opened them.

Take good care of your contacts, do the effect only when performing and I'm sure they will last a good while longer then the stated life-span. O'yea, and always make sure your nails are CUT very short when playing with lenses, I learned the hard way a long time ago.






Paul
Message: Posted by: jsheas (Nov 15, 2010 12:25PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-15 12:19, Piz wrote:
I would like to note that I have contacts with the "One year done deal" label on them (as these do) that I bought over 4 years ago that are still in great condition and wear perfectly fine.


I must say I do only wear them once or twice a month, so wear time and how often will definitely help with the longevity of the lenses.


The lenses I am wearing in my AV pic to the left, I purchased them in April 09' (after my 3 yr old niece opened the lens bottle and drank my other (identical) pair :( ), and they are still in mint condition.

My Black-Out contacts along with my Dark-Elf I bought in 06', and both pairs wear as if I just opened them.

Take good care of your contacts, do the effect only when performing and I'm sure they will last a good while longer then the stated life-span. O'yea, and always make sure your nails are CUT very short when playing with lenses, I learned the hard way a long time ago.






Paul
[/quote]

Are you serious? A 3year old drank your contact lenses. Hope you are more responsible with things that shouldn't be swallowed in the future.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Nov 15, 2010 11:22PM)
^^^ For one thing my niece don't and has never live with me, I was not home, her mother should have been watching her. 2nd, her mother should not have been in the room I was staying in without my permission. Trust me, I feel just as you do.


Back on subject...



Is it possible to just buy the DVD ? I really don't need the lenses as I already have plenty.


Thanks



Paul
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Nov 16, 2010 12:02AM)
U DO need the lenses. They are not ur standard fx lenses
Message: Posted by: Havens (Nov 16, 2010 04:09AM)
I second that, you really need the lenses. It's your eyes and just not worth risking them.
Message: Posted by: supermonster (Nov 18, 2010 07:47AM)
I think it is not fair to say in the end of the DVD that some people can't perform this effect at all..
Message: Posted by: Exitmat (Nov 18, 2010 10:57AM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-18 08:47, supermonster wrote:
I think it is not fair to say in the end of the DVD that some people can't perform this effect at all..
[/quote]

Wait--what? Why can't some people perform the effect at all?
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Nov 18, 2010 12:05PM)
If you have an issue with putting a lens in ur eye you will not be able to do it
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Nov 18, 2010 12:48PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-18 13:05, Alan Rorrison wrote:
If you have an issue with putting a lens in ur eye you will not be able to do it
[/quote]

Is that the true meaning of what the dvd says? I would like to know as well if there is something other than the fear of lenses, which will not allow you to perform an expensive trick.
Message: Posted by: Havens (Nov 18, 2010 02:16PM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-18 13:48, Memory-Jah wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-11-18 13:05, Alan Rorrison wrote:
If you have an issue with putting a lens in ur eye you will not be able to do it
[/quote]

Is that the true meaning of what the dvd says? I would like to know as well if there is something other than the fear of lenses, which will not allow you to perform an expensive trick.
[/quote]

This is probably a question best answered by Marc or Berk, I could be wrong but I took it to mean that some people may not be able to perform the effect, for whatever reason, much like not everyone can do a certain coin or card technique. Learning the techniques requires work, which will vary from person to person, it's not a self-working gimmick, the effort needs to be put in.

With regards to the cost you're receiving a quality DVD that reveals the secret and explains the techniques, as well as the lenses which have their own value. I found the cost just fine compared to other effects I've purchased recently. I'll be gutted if I can't nail the effect, though I certainly won't be blaming the creators or regret the purchase.

It's the effect of the year by far.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Nov 19, 2010 04:47AM)
After Berk did this on Phenominon there were several kids that tried to duplicate the effect and ended up injuring their eye. One kid had to get surgery to get it fixed and berk and marc can chime in about this story if they want. This isn't something to play around with. Eyes are very delicate and you have to be careful with this one. Order the contacts from alakazam
Message: Posted by: supermonster (Nov 21, 2010 08:21AM)
I think they said on the dvd that some people just don't have that kind of eyes you need to perform this. Or something like that.
Message: Posted by: slyhand (Nov 21, 2010 12:08PM)
I am afraid to take them out of the bottles. I don't want to have to clean them every week.
I wish I had extras so I can at least practice with them and not worry about it. I only plan on using them rarely like once every couple months.
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Nov 21, 2010 12:58PM)
You can buy extras from there site mate
Message: Posted by: roblane (Nov 21, 2010 06:24PM)
I've had mine for a couple of months now and still struggle to get them in. Once they're in, they're fine and I intend to continue to practice until I can perform this fully before showing. Just thought is was worth mentioning.
Message: Posted by: Havens (Nov 22, 2010 06:19AM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-21 13:08, slyhand wrote:
I am afraid to take them out of the bottles. I don't want to have to clean them every week.
I wish I had extras so I can at least practice with them and not worry about it. I only plan on using them rarely like once every couple months.
[/quote]

I clean them every time I use them, it takes seconds.
Message: Posted by: aalexander (Nov 25, 2010 11:27AM)
I have light blue eyes to begin with. Is it worth getting them in the light colour, or should I wait for more colours to come out? Has anyone with light coloured eyes tried this effect yet?
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Nov 27, 2010 04:06PM)
It doesn't seem as if more colors are coming out. I was asking spelman already and he didn't even gave an answer...doesnt seem so important to them
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Nov 27, 2010 10:33PM)
Hey guys...
I was really busy for the last 2 months...
I'm here now if you need to ask anything...
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Nov 27, 2010 10:40PM)
Are new colors coming out Berk?
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Nov 28, 2010 06:57PM)
Yes new colours will be available.. We didn't think there would be such a rush for them as the effect takes time to master and myself, Berk and Peter have been busy with various projects.. And it's also that time of year when I hit the road and barely get to see my girlfriend let alone work on new releases and or new additions.. We are all so happy you all like Biokinesis, it is the genius of Berk that we are able to offer this to you all and I for one stand on his shoulders as a student of the effect.

It's not an instant easy self worker but the effect is worth it. For the record when I said on the DVD 'Some people may not be able to perform Biokinesis' I meant if you feel at all uncomfortable with lenses, things in your eyes and the level of practice it takes to get to Berk's level you wont be able to do it. As an example, Peter loves the Orifice Trick from my DVD's but simply hates putting anything in his eyes, thus he cannot do the effect as I do.

In regards to colours we are planning on possible releasing Red, Yellow and Green. We have to order ALOT to make it cost effective as they are not cheap disposable lenses. Therefor small orders are not possible. Black is not planned at this stage but if we get enough requests we will consider it or if we can com to an arrangement with our producer we will let you know.

I wont be on the Café very much, if at all for the foreseeable future, I will be picking up messages from time to time. Be well and be safe.. Good thoughts to all of you and have a great Christmas and 2011.. Over and out..

MS
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Nov 29, 2010 12:38PM)
How can we request this? I would certainly buy this if Black is available, and others in this thread also mentioned their interested. Ans I think Black is the most used colors when it comes to unnatural eye colors, followed by white, and then red for demonic stuff. I am pretty sure black would hit best. Please let us know how we can request this.
Message: Posted by: Havens (Dec 3, 2010 04:03AM)
I have to hold my hands up and admit I'm struggling with this. It's not a criticism of the effect, I personally am having difficulty with it - so if any one can offer an advice it would be much appreciated. I seem to be having the same difficulty whether I'm practicing either the stage 1 or stage 2 method. What happens is my eye lids seem to stick together, or create a vacuum and my bottom eyelid almost pops inside out. This happens almost every time and I'm finding it very frustrating. It might be because I've got long eyelashes (ooh get me) or the shape of my eyes. Is anyone else experiencing anything similar?

I must stress this isn't meant in any negative way about the effect, it's fantastic. It's just a personal problem I'm having and I'm appealing for advice.
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Dec 11, 2010 11:04AM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-28 19:57, Marc Spelmann wrote:
Yes new colours will be available.. We didn't think there would be such a rush for them as the effect takes time to master and myself, Berk and Peter have been busy with various projects.. And it's also that time of year when I hit the road and barely get to see my girlfriend let alone work on new releases and or new additions.. We are all so happy you all like Biokinesis, it is the genius of Berk that we are able to offer this to you all and I for one stand on his shoulders as a student of the effect.

It's not an instant easy self worker but the effect is worth it. For the record when I said on the DVD 'Some people may not be able to perform Biokinesis' I meant if you feel at all uncomfortable with lenses, things in your eyes and the level of practice it takes to get to Berk's level you wont be able to do it. As an example, Peter loves the Orifice Trick from my DVD's but simply hates putting anything in his eyes, thus he cannot do the effect as I do.

In regards to colours we are planning on possible releasing Red, Yellow and Green. We have to order ALOT to make it cost effective as they are not cheap disposable lenses. Therefor small orders are not possible. Black is not planned at this stage but if we get enough requests we will consider it or if we can com to an arrangement with our producer we will let you know.

I wont be on the Café very much, if at all for the foreseeable future, I will be picking up messages from time to time. Be well and be safe.. Good thoughts to all of you and have a great Christmas and 2011.. Over and out..

MS
[/quote]


any updates here on how we can request colours? I am still retty sure that a lot of people would prefer black over your mentioned colours!
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Dec 14, 2010 06:12PM)
Wow....this seems really important to the creators....
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (Dec 14, 2010 07:11PM)
[quote]
On 2010-12-14 19:12, Memory-Jah wrote:
Wow....this seems really important to the creators....
[/quote]

Agreed 100%.
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Dec 21, 2010 09:55AM)
I am not sure anymore If I want to (financially) support Berk/Spelmann here. This is just ridiculous.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Dec 22, 2010 07:46PM)
My personal opinion black outs are not as visual as the contacts that spellman mentioned. The moment when you change your eyes to a color like white or red its visually stunning. With black people may not notice. If you don't want to support it than that's one less person on earth that I can worry about doing this miracle lol
Chris Oberle
Message: Posted by: Memory-Jah (Dec 23, 2010 04:14AM)
Yeah because the lack of interest of Berk & co is obviously not the reason...why would I care for customers after declaring we can request colors and then dissappear. Besides Spelmanns totally out of the line words above regharding my other post. Everything here seems really important to the creators as it seems.

And if your eyes if you have bright blue eyes and they change into dark black and people will not know, then its your fault.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Dec 23, 2010 05:57AM)
[quote]
On 2010-11-28 19:57, Marc Spelmann wrote:
Yes new colours will be available.. We didn't think there would be such a rush for them as the effect takes time to master and myself, Berk and Peter have been busy with various projects.. And it's also that time of year when I hit the road and barely get to see my girlfriend let alone work on new releases and or new additions.. We are all so happy you all like Biokinesis, it is the genius of Berk that we are able to offer this to you all and I for one stand on his shoulders as a student of the effect.

It's not an instant easy self worker but the effect is worth it. For the record when I said on the DVD 'Some people may not be able to perform Biokinesis' I meant if you feel at all uncomfortable with lenses, things in your eyes and the level of practice it takes to get to Berk's level you wont be able to do it. As an example, Peter loves the Orifice Trick from my DVD's but simply hates putting anything in his eyes, thus he cannot do the effect as I do.

In regards to colours we are planning on possible releasing Red, Yellow and Green. We have to order ALOT to make it cost effective as they are not cheap disposable lenses. Therefor small orders are not possible. Black is not planned at this stage but if we get enough requests we will consider it or if we can com to an arrangement with our producer we will let you know.

I wont be on the Café very much, if at all for the foreseeable future, I will be picking up messages from time to time. Be well and be safe.. Good thoughts to all of you and have a great Christmas and 2011.. Over and out..

MS
[/quote]


If I could recommend a color to take into consideration, without question would be Angelic-Blue. They look as if they glow, they are a beautiful blue but are also freakishly stunning as-well. I feel these would sell very well, I would buy in a heart beat.

I am wearing these in my Pic to the left (which don't do them justice), out of my 20-something pairs of contacts, not only are these my fav, but I get HUGE reactions everytime I wear these, and the most (by far), instantly noticable, which is what we want.



Here's some closer shots of the Angelics to give ya an idea of how much they POP!


My natural color


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/SIRCHIKKOG/SAM_1841.jpg


Angelic Blue...


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/SIRCHIKKOG/SAM_1992-2.jpg

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/SIRCHIKKOG/SAM_2009.jpg

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/SIRCHIKKOG/SAM_1684.jpg

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/SIRCHIKKOG/SAM_1718.jpg


And just for kicks, here ya goo.. Lizard PIZ!" LOL (Anime Purple)

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/SIRCHIKKOG/SAM_1582.jpg




Paul
Message: Posted by: lozey (Dec 23, 2010 06:30AM)
[quote]
On 2010-12-23 05:14, Memory-Jah wrote:
Yeah because the lack of interest of Berk & co is obviously not the reason...why would I care for customers after declaring we can request colors and then dissappear. Besides Spelmanns totally out of the line words above regharding my other post. Everything here seems really important to the creators as it seems.

And if your eyes if you have bright blue eyes and they change into dark black and people will not know, then its your fault.
[/quote]

As Mark has already said, this is the busiest time of year for professional magicians. He hasnt disappeared at all, but is likely on the road for 12+ hours a day without the facilities or time to access the internet. Give him a chance, creators don't willingly neglect their customers ;)
Message: Posted by: Havens (Jan 7, 2011 07:18AM)
Have made some quite huge advancements with this, but it took a lot of effort and practice - I also had some good advice from one Café member. One thing I would say is don't practice everyday, in much the same way as going to the gym everyday isn't always as beneficial as going every other day.
Message: Posted by: Havens (Jan 7, 2011 09:04AM)
I should also point out I've only managed to get to grips with stage 1, hopefully stage 2 will come easier but if not I'm willing to put in the effort. I think this is an effect that will differ for everyone. As Marc says on the DVD not everyone will be able to do this, I'd have been one of those people if it hadn't been for some dedication and some good advice.
Message: Posted by: Berk.Eratay (Feb 13, 2011 07:38PM)
@Memory-Jah:
I've tried almost each color in my shows and researching step...
Black will not do any good to you unless your eyes are light blue or light green colored.
Upon the change of the eye color people will recognize mostly bright and reflective colors, not dark colors.

For you the color is just a theory, for me it's practice so I hope the answer will be satisfactory for you.

To Others;
About wearing and practicing do not hesitate to step forward and use them.
The more you practice the better it gets...
Sometimes before the shows when I get them in my eyes they just don't work I need to practice 1 or 2 days prior to the performance date...
Any questions please ask.
Thanks
B
Message: Posted by: E.C. Valdemar (Feb 18, 2011 11:37PM)
Hello Eratay. VERY KOOL EFFECT! I'm coming to the thread late so please forgive if I ask a question that might have already been asked.

How long will the gimmicks last if they are taken care of? And how long can they been worn? I used to perform Wayne Houchin's Thread quite a lot so I'm pretty used to feeling something funny in my eye for a couple hours.

Thanks for your time
~Robert EC
Message: Posted by: BenCardall (Mar 5, 2011 08:49AM)
Cant wait for red and yellow they are going to be freaking incredible!
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Mar 5, 2011 12:05PM)
Still waiting to order mine... Too may things on my plate but I will device my halloween costume around it as well as enjoy the effect.
Message: Posted by: TM (Jun 1, 2011 04:45PM)
Any Updates on wen the New Colors will Be out.
Message: Posted by: taoist (Jul 25, 2011 01:12PM)
I was discussing this with another magician. Is there any possibility of the lens slipping/rolling to the back of the eye socket?
What is the greatest health hazard of this effect?
Message: Posted by: EricDraven (Sep 13, 2011 06:24AM)
Is Akakazam discontinuing this product?
Message: Posted by: DJ Trix (Nov 2, 2011 02:22AM)
Curious about more natural colors for close up performances as well.
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Nov 2, 2011 07:55AM)
[quote]
On 2011-07-25 14:12, taoist wrote:
I was discussing this with another magician. Is there any possibility of the lens slipping/rolling to the back of the eye socket?
What is the greatest health hazard of this effect?
[/quote]
Of course it's possible!
It happends a lot when magician use it but not mentalist ;-)
Message: Posted by: JanForster (Nov 2, 2011 08:00AM)
You see this is why I put them in my vent puppet. She looks great now! Jan
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Nov 2, 2011 09:56AM)
Local news story here about the danger of contact lens used for halloween costumes. I just don't think its worth messing around with
Message: Posted by: taoist (Sep 29, 2012 09:00PM)
[quote]
On 2011-11-02 10:56, brehaut wrote:
Local news story here about the danger of contact lens used for halloween costumes. I just don't think its worth messing around with
[/quote]

Where?
Link?
Message: Posted by: TM (Nov 1, 2015 12:26PM)
I guess we will never have new gimmicks for this then ?

I want to try out the thin lenses a lot of people say they have used. Are there any suggestions what might be good substitutes for the gimmick that's originally included in the package ?
Message: Posted by: yair61 (Aug 20, 2017 05:33PM)
Why it's out of stock for a few years now?
it's because it's dangerous?
Message: Posted by: JoelDickinson (Aug 20, 2017 06:00PM)
Yup