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Topic: Progressive Rock
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 1, 2010 07:50PM)
I won't bore you with a top 10 list, but anybody have any prog rock favourites?

like, say

King Crimson: 3 of a Perfect Pair
Emerson Lake and Palmer: Take a Pebble
Rush: 2112
Muse: Knights of Cydonia


Anybody?
Message: Posted by: BCS (Sep 1, 2010 08:01PM)
YES… Roundabout & All Good People
Supertramp… School & Bloody Well Right
Early ELO… pretty much all of it; even their later stuff is not too bad

Bruce
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 1, 2010 08:17PM)
John
My taste in music is too controversial.
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Sep 1, 2010 08:19PM)
I, like Al, listen only to Gangsta Rap.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 1, 2010 08:24PM)
You know I love you Al. Just give us a couple. Maybe your favourite Jethro Tull tune.

John
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Sep 1, 2010 08:28PM)
I've never been sure exactly what progressive rock is. So far I've seen hard rock, pop rock, and bad rock presented as progressive. Based on that I have no idea what to list.
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Sep 1, 2010 08:33PM)
A lot of great tracks have already been listed, I'll throw Last Chance by Shooting Star into the mix.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 1, 2010 08:47PM)
These are the artists that I have the most of on my ipod in alphabetical order

The Band
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bruce Springstein
(early) Elton John
Jackie Wilson
Jesse Winchester
Jimmy Cliff
Joni Mitchell
Little Feat
Los Lonely Boys
Mose Allison
Paul Thorn
Raul Malo
Richard Thompson
Soni Dada
Stevie Wonder
Warren Zevon

If you have never heard of most of them I will understand.
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Sep 1, 2010 08:53PM)
I've heard of 10 of them.
Message: Posted by: landmark (Sep 1, 2010 09:05PM)
Al,
Hey, Mose Allison! But where's the Van Morrison?
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 1, 2010 09:17PM)
Landmark
I only hava a couple Van Morrison on my ipod. All of those other picks have a dozen or more songs on my ipod.

I'm an old guy, and Mose Allison is a little older than I am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpekvOkwNM
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Sep 1, 2010 09:33PM)
Is it true that you saw Stephen Foster perform live?
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 1, 2010 09:40PM)
No but I did see Steve Miller, Steve Marriott, and Stevie Nicks live, but not all in the same night you big turkey.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 1, 2010 09:43PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-01 21:28, MagicSanta wrote:
I've never been sure exactly what progressive rock is. So far I've seen hard rock, pop rock, and bad rock presented as progressive. Based on that I have no idea what to list.
[/quote]

Typically, progressive rock has unusual rhythms and/or song structures.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuOGaoDeIE]Here[/url] is a good example.

John
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 1, 2010 09:46PM)
I want to add a little taste of Steve Marriott.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdXjm8pZMws
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 1, 2010 09:51PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-01 22:46, Al Angello wrote:
I want to add a little taste of Steve Marriott.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdXjm8pZMws
[/quote]

cool cut. thanks.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 1, 2010 09:55PM)
John
That was a great video of Rush, and "thirty days in the whole" is Humble Pie's most played song.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Sep 1, 2010 10:32PM)
Okay, I cannot put Rush into the progressive catagory, they are too good of a band for that, ground breaking maybe.

I'd say Rundgren is progressive, ELP sure, Pink Floyd certainly, based on what John said. Progressive is just not a term I'm familiar with and I think that punk as defined prior to the punk movement applies. It almost seems a keyboard is what makes something progressive....I just don't know.

I am down with the Humble Pie though.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 1, 2010 10:47PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-01 20:50, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
I won't bore you with a top 10 list
[/quote]

So...uhhhh...what are you trying to say?
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 1, 2010 10:56PM)
Moody Blues would be on my short list. For Tull, I'm more of a fan of their early hard rock efforts (Cross-Eyed Mary, Aqualung, etc.), though I know the hip thing is to cite Thick As a Brick. ELO is another band I like quite a bit. I never really appreciated Yes as much I probably should. I'd also put Zebra on the list.

In the progressive metal sub-genre (of either prog rock, or of metal; take your pick), I'm partial to Fates Warning and also a fan of Dream Theater.

Knights of Cydonia is an amazing tune.

Does Zeppelin's Kashmir count?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Sep 1, 2010 11:20PM)
Moody Blues....experimental music! Now I get it!
Message: Posted by: magicfish (Sep 1, 2010 11:27PM)
Without a doubt, PRIMUS.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Sep 1, 2010 11:44PM)
I would say Primus is experimental or progressive as the less hip say.

Lobo, I was shocked by Johns vicious attack on your lists.
Message: Posted by: Dreadnought (Sep 1, 2010 11:45PM)
Rush: [i]2112[/i] [i]Hemispheres[/i] [i]Permanent Waves[/i] and [i]Moving Pictures[/i]
ELP: [i]Brain Salad Surgery[/i]
Queensryche: [i]Operation Mind Crime[/i], [i]Empire[/i] and [i]Promised Land[/i]
Marillion: [i]Misplaced Childhood[/i]
Pink Floyd: [i]Dark Side of the Moon[/i], [i]A Momentary Lapse of Reason[/i]
Kansas: [i]Leftoverture[/i] [i]Point of No Return[/i] [i]Spirit of Things[/i]
The Dixie Dregs aka The Dregs (more of a fusion band): [i]Industry Standard[/i]
Any of Steve Vai's solo works

And yes, Zebra, a New Orleans product, rocked.

Peace and Godspeed
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Sep 1, 2010 11:49PM)
I surrender....as I said before, clearly keyboards means progressive. Dread listed a lot of albums I just considered rock music. They were certainly leading music into new directions, and thus guys like Devo and The Cars should be included.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 2, 2010 12:12AM)
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On 2010-09-02 00:45, Dreadnought wrote:
Rush: [i]2112[/i] [i]Hemispheres[/i] [i]Permanent Waves[/i] and [i]Moving Pictures[/i]
ELP: [i]Brain Salad Surgery[/i]
Queensryche: [i]Operation Mind Crime[/i], [i]Empire[/i] and [i]Promised Land[/i]
Marillion: [i]Misplaced Childhood[/i]
Pink Floyd: [i]Dark Side of the Moon[/i], [i]A Momentary Lapse of Reason[/i]
Kansas: [i]Leftoverture[/i] [i]Point of No Return[/i] [i]Spirit of Things[/i]
The Dixie Dregs aka The Dregs (more of a fusion band): [i]Industry Standard[/i]
Any of Steve Vai's solo works

And yes, Zebra, a New Orleans product, rocked.

Peace and Godspeed
[/quote]

Queensryche was my favorite band for quite a while, but in addition to Mindcrime, I'd put The Warning on the very-short list.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 2, 2010 07:58AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-01 23:47, LobowolfXXX wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-09-01 20:50, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
I won't bore you with a top 10 list
[/quote]

So...uhhhh...what are you trying to say?
[/quote]

Nothing. Nothing at all.



John
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Sep 2, 2010 09:43AM)
I hadn't head the term "Progressive Rock" until a year ago, actually, and was suprised to learn I grew up with it. It seems most "classic" rock is also "progressive" rock.

Prog rock/metal is characterized by a classical influence, and uses intricate harmonies and repeating themes (like classical music.) Iron Maiden, especially the later stuff, is prog metal. I think most of Dio's work qualifies too. Queensryche, definately. I was asking around on another forum for modern bands in a similar vein, and was told about "Hammers of Misfortune". The group's got a few members of GWAR (another band I've not listened to much), and sounds pretty good. They've also got a female vocalist- unusual for metal bands. Check 'em out on iTunes if you like prog metal and have a chance.

http://www.hammersofmisfortune.com/news/
Oh, apparently they've signed with a record label, which will be re-releasing some of their older albums. Should be interesting.

(Note to Santa- HoM's another Bay Area band.)
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 2, 2010 09:53AM)
Some other new catagories of music are "heritage", "jam band", and "adult alternitive". My opinion of "progressive rock" is rock music that is not "regressive". I will not name any regressive music, because I don't want to get into an argument, but there's lots of it out there.
Message: Posted by: Dr. Van Van Mojo (Sep 2, 2010 10:07AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-01 21:47, Al Angello wrote:
These are the artists that I have the most of on my ipod in alphabetical order

The Band
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bruce Springstein
(early) Elton John
Jackie Wilson
Jesse Winchester
Jimmy Cliff
Joni Mitchell
Little Feat
Los Lonely Boys
Mose Allison
Paul Thorn
Raul Malo
Richard Thompson
Soni Dada
Stevie Wonder
Warren Zevon

If you have never heard of most of them I will understand.
[/quote]

I've heard of almost all of them, and I've only met one person before that's heard of Sonia Dada. I really dig those guys, very interesting sound they have going on.

Looks like you're a big fan of Dylan and The Band. Do you recognize the house in this picture?

[img]http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s345/even67/vacation009.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Sep 2, 2010 10:13AM)
I'm guessing Big Pink.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 2, 2010 10:22AM)
Milian
That's an easy question because a picture of the house was on the Band's first album.

Sonia Dada is a great little known Chicago group, and I loveem. I fear that they are no longer together, but here is a little ditty that they sang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9WH8AfakFs
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Sep 2, 2010 10:59AM)
Radiohead

as a certified pink floyd fan, I'd have to say Dark Side was not progressive, compared to their other works. I would say ummagumma or relics are more progressive.


parliament funk
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 2, 2010 11:45AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 10:43, EsnRedshirt wrote:
I hadn't head the term "Progressive Rock" until a year ago, actually, and was suprised to learn I grew up with it. It seems most "classic" rock is also "progressive" rock.

Prog rock/metal is characterized by a classical influence, and uses intricate harmonies and repeating themes (like classical music.) Iron Maiden, especially the later stuff, is prog metal. I think most of Dio's work qualifies too. Queensryche, definately. I was asking around on another forum for modern bands in a similar vein, and was told about "Hammers of Misfortune". The group's got a few members of GWAR (another band I've not listened to much), and sounds pretty good. They've also got a female vocalist- unusual for metal bands. Check 'em out on iTunes if you like prog metal and have a chance.

http://www.hammersofmisfortune.com/news/
Oh, apparently they've signed with a record label, which will be re-releasing some of their older albums. Should be interesting.

(Note to Santa- HoM's another Bay Area band.)
[/quote]

Check out Sinergy for a great metal band with an amazing female singer. In particular, I'd suggest "I Spit On Your Grave."
Message: Posted by: critter (Sep 2, 2010 11:56AM)
Surprised no one has mentioned-
Dream Theatre: Images and Words

Smashing Pumpkins: Mellons and stuff with the long stuff and such. (Not actual title)

I hate to say it but Tool's early stuff.

I have to admit, prog ain't my favorite genre so I don't know a ton about it.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Sep 2, 2010 02:09PM)
I had a complete collection of moody blues records, but I sold my records, and now I have just my iTunes file, and my ipod as my music collection. There are no boody blues on my ipod because I tried to put only the music that I will listen to on it, and I have no desire to listen to music just because it is nestalgic. You can judge what is a keeper, and what is just another old song for youself, but I don't want my ipod to gather any dust. IMHO
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 2, 2010 02:25PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 12:56, critter wrote:
Surprised no one has mentioned-
Dream Theatre: Images and Words

Smashing Pumpkins: Mellons and stuff with the long stuff and such. (Not actual title)

I hate to say it but Tool's early stuff.

I have to admit, prog ain't my favorite genre so I don't know a ton about it.
[/quote]

I mentioned Dream Theater.
Message: Posted by: critter (Sep 2, 2010 04:03PM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 15:25, LobowolfXXX wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-09-02 12:56, critter wrote:
Surprised no one has mentioned-
Dream Theatre: Images and Words

Smashing Pumpkins: Mellons and stuff with the long stuff and such. (Not actual title)

I hate to say it but Tool's early stuff.

I have to admit, prog ain't my favorite genre so I don't know a ton about it.
[/quote]

I mentioned Dream Theater.
[/quote]

Oh yeah, I see it now. Sorry.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Sep 2, 2010 04:05PM)
I should have specified Images and Words. I vividly remember the first time I heard "Pull Me Under" Holy crap! They also do the most amazing covers.
Message: Posted by: critter (Sep 2, 2010 04:18PM)
They do at that. I played a Petrucci Music Man once, sweet guitar. Best. Action. Ever. Have a couple of his books too. He's been an influence. He's my uncle's favorite guitarist, and my uncle is one of my favorite guitarists, so it's trickle down musicology.