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Topic: Quick Invisible Deck question
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 27, 2010 10:28PM)
Learning my ID and I have a couple of quick questions,

What do you do with the joker if you need to fan "the other way"?

I've been just nonchalantly turning the deck over while retaining the joker in my palm. is this what everyone else does? is there a better way?

Secondly, I find I have naturally dry hands and it doesn't work very well for me unless I wet my fingertips. Does anyone else lick their fingertips before doing the reveal? Do you find this is reasonably natural, like someone would lick their fingers before counting bills? Is there a better solution?

Thanks

JK
Message: Posted by: Mary Mowder (Sep 27, 2010 11:48PM)
Dear Cyberqat,

Please don't lick your fingers. It spreads disease and is really off putting. Nowadays I don't see how anyone would find that OK except Magicians who have become blind to it. I can honestly see that one habit precluding you from working some of the nicer venues. I know a lot of people do it and some of them are excellent Magicians. Over time though, I see this habit as becoming less and less acceptable.

There are various lotions (do a search). I use a tip Martin Nash gave me. Put a bit of Sortkwik (for counting money) behind your ear. Then it's available at need and your hands are clean otherwise. Put it on maybe 30 sec. before to give it a chance to dry a little. It will last a while after. Experiment.

- Mary Mowder
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Sep 28, 2010 01:26AM)
Most ID's could use a little de gripping when you first get em which can be achieved by lightly rubbing em together a few times! More than anything it's a feel thing (usually LESS is more)and after working with it for awhile you'll get to where you can make "it" happen with just about any deck! I male my own R/S decks and set ups and like em pretty firm in their grippage!

As for the Joker, I leave it on one side as my indicator (face up so I know which is which) and I simply toss it on the table or box it saying we won't need this as I get the deck in whichever way I want it! I don't make any big deal about it at all!

MMc
Message: Posted by: Tim Sutton (Sep 28, 2010 02:09AM)
Get rid of the joker - you don't need it.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 28, 2010 09:02AM)
I'll look for some sortkwik. Thanks Mary et al for the suggestions.
Message: Posted by: Harry Lorayne (Sep 28, 2010 11:24AM)
My hands are very dry. I mentioned this at all my lectures - I dampen a napkin before I go on and keep it on my table. And, I simply pick it up when I want to "moisturize". Pick it up and drop it, that's it. Better than licking your fingers. HL.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 28, 2010 12:19PM)
Thanks Harry!

P.S. Do you still do lectures? If so will you be doing any in the NYC or Boston area any time soon?
Message: Posted by: DomKabala (Sep 28, 2010 01:34PM)
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On 2010-09-27 23:28, Cyberqat wrote:

Secondly, I find I have naturally dry hands and it doesn't work very well for me unless I wet my fingertips. Does anyone else lick their fingertips before doing the reveal? Do you find this is reasonably natural, like someone would lick their fingers before counting bills? Is there a better solution?

Thanks

JK
[/quote] Try some "Skinner's Edge Card Creme"...Google it to find it. A little goes a long way BTW...If you can get some "Chamberlains Golden Touch" hand spray try that too, or last but not least go to to a drugstore (Walgreens) and get some "Neutrogena Norwegian Formula" hand cream.

I use all of the above and they all work!

Drink plenty of water also...and please, for goodness sakes, don't ever lick your fingers in front of your audience! :eek: :P

Cardamagically,
Dom :) ;)
Message: Posted by: Harry Lorayne (Sep 28, 2010 02:05PM)
No, Cyberqat: Unfortunately, most magic groups don't have the budget for me.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Sep 28, 2010 02:39PM)
That makes sense. Oh well, I have a DVD of your to watch and when I finish that, there are others. :)


Thanks again guys.

A bit of sortqwik and learning a *very* gentle touch seems to be working. Now it's just practice. :)



Okay guys, one last question....

I've got the handling down well now [b]except[/b] when the target is one of the top few. Then I can't get a good enough grip with the fingers below because the thickness of the deck is in the way.

I was thinking in that case I might do a quick cut to cut the target to the middle.

Is this what others do? is there a better way?

Thanks again for all the pointers.