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Topic: Most Unbreakable Baseball Record
Message: Posted by: R.S. (Oct 17, 2010 07:52AM)
.406? 56? Cal Ripken's streak? Nolan Ryan's 7 No-hitters? Everybody has an opinion on this, so what's yours?

Ron
Message: Posted by: The Burnaby Kid (Oct 17, 2010 08:28AM)
Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back no hitters. Can't imagine anybody doing three in a row. We'll have a hitting prodigy before then.
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 17, 2010 08:46AM)
Rogers Hornsby, 2nd baseman, season batting average .424, St. Louis Cardinals, 1924. (Lifetime .358; only player to ever hit over .400 and 40 runs in the same season - 1922 .401/42; he taught Ted Williams to "wait for a good pitch to hit.")

Woland
Message: Posted by: Lambertmoon (Oct 17, 2010 09:07AM)
Complete games.

Cy Young holds the complete games record with 749.
Halladay is the active leader with 58. With todays pitch counts and specialized set-up man to closer the starter rarely goes more than 7 innings. The game is different and no one is ever going to come close to the complete games record.
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 17, 2010 09:47AM)
Charles Radbourn, Providence Grays, 1884:

678 2/3 innings pitched

59, 60, or 62 games won and only 12 losses
(number of games won depending on the statistician who assigned wins to pitchers, the rules not being as standardized as they are today)


Woland
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Oct 17, 2010 03:45PM)
Complete games will never be broken because the nature of the game won't allow it now. Hornsby's batting record is safe too.

I'm ashamed to say I was at the game when Bonds set a homerun record but at the time my back was to the game as I was arguing with the drunk who stole my seat.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Oct 17, 2010 09:11PM)
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On 2010-10-17 09:28, Andrew Musgrave wrote:
Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back no hitters. Can't imagine anybody doing three in a row. We'll have a hitting prodigy before then.
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+1 Vandermeer is safe for life.
Message: Posted by: jeffdell (Oct 18, 2010 07:21AM)
With all the great hitters in the game and all the controversy over performance enhancing drugs I'm somewhat shocked that there hasn't been a hitter to win a triple crown in baseball since Yaz in 1967! You've had pitchers that have done it (Johan Santana and Jake Peavy -- thanks wikipedia :) but not any hitters.

Its only a matter of time before a hitter comes along and does it, though its been 43 years! I would've thought before A-Rod moved to third base that he would've been a guy who could do it, but so far no luck!

Jeff
Message: Posted by: The Burnaby Kid (Oct 18, 2010 08:34AM)
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On 2010-10-17 22:11, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2010-10-17 09:28, Andrew Musgrave wrote:
Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back no hitters. Can't imagine anybody doing three in a row. We'll have a hitting prodigy before then.
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+1 Vandermeer is safe for life.
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Not sure how to read that, since Vander Meer passed in 1997.

Have to concede that the complete games pitched is more unbreakable. Closers are here to stay.
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Oct 18, 2010 09:10AM)
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On 2010-10-18 09:34, Andrew Musgrave wrote:
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On 2010-10-17 22:11, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2010-10-17 09:28, Andrew Musgrave wrote:
Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back no hitters. Can't imagine anybody doing three in a row. We'll have a hitting prodigy before then.
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+1 Vandermeer is safe for life.
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Not sure how to read that, since Vander Meer passed in 1997.

Have to concede that the complete games pitched is more unbreakable. Closers are here to stay.
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He's safe for all of our lives.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 18, 2010 10:16AM)
First pitch in a major league game.

Any record in racially segregated leagues.

Most _______ by a Montreal Expo.

These are all very safe.

John
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Oct 18, 2010 10:24AM)
Didn't Mariano Rivera cause four or five broken bats over 1.3 innings last week in an ALCS game?

Orioles outfielder Jay Gibbons broke six bats in a single game.
Message: Posted by: jeffdell (Oct 18, 2010 10:58AM)
How about Pete Rose's record for hits? Pete Rose had 4256 career hits and I don't think anyone is even close. The closest among active players is Derek Jeter with close to 3000 hits, though he would need to play for another 6 seasons with 200 hits / season to catch Pete Rose's record. This is highly unlikely for Jeter. Maybe Ichiro will do it? In 10 seasons he has 2200 hits, and averages over 200 hits per season. For Ichiro to catch Pete Rose he'd need to keep his current pace for another 10 seasons!

Jeff
Message: Posted by: The Burnaby Kid (Oct 18, 2010 11:59AM)
I can see that one being broken eventually. When it comes to longevity, Baseball is much kinder to hitters than it is to pitchers.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Oct 18, 2010 12:54PM)
Most no-hitters pitched while on LSD- One. Set v by Doc Ellis in 1970!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Oct 18, 2010 03:13PM)
Who was the first white player in the Negro Leagues?

The first black player was of course Moses Fleetwood Walker in the 1880s
Message: Posted by: Woland (Oct 18, 2010 03:54PM)
Eddie Klep?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Oct 18, 2010 04:09PM)
That is correct! Eddie was descriminated against, not allowed to stay in the same hotels or eat with his teammates, it was terrible. Eddie did his best when he broke the color barrier, but no one cares. Racism, terrible thing.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 18, 2010 04:53PM)
Times have changed. Apparently, Klep went to prison for theft, drunkenness, fornication and adultery. Today, that would make a pretty good citizen by pro sports standards.

John