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Topic: Redford's Voices
Message: Posted by: PaulPacific (Oct 26, 2010 01:06PM)
At MINDvention Patrick Redford demonstrated his new effect, "Voices". It is a modern twist on a classic Mentalism premise involving an audio prediction and a cellphone!

If you are a fan of Patrick's material then this is some strong thinking in a new direction!

Paul
Message: Posted by: jamiesalinas (Oct 26, 2010 11:05PM)
I have just read the booklet and I love this idea. I may have to add some "voices" to my seances.
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Oct 26, 2010 11:43PM)
I posted on another thread asking about audio predictions. How versatile is this? Where can I read more about it? Where can buy it? I tried to do a search with google but nothing came up.
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Oct 27, 2010 02:25PM)
Paul! My friend, thanks very much. It was great to see you in Vegas. It's been too long.

Jamie! It was great to meet you at Mindvention. You have some very clever ideas and I enjoyed the lecture very much.

Tragic Geek - This was a Mindvention release and it hasn't officially hit the dealers yet and will only be available at a select few besides direct from me. It's very versatile and lends itself well to both close-up and stage work. Best of all it's great for those moments when you have nothing on you to perform except a cell phone. The booklet itself is a combination of both audio prediction techniques and creating EVP like voices on a cell phone or tape recorded prediction. The good news is, there are no gimmicks involved so you're always ready to go. I hope this answers your question the best I can in an open forum such as this one.

-PGR
Message: Posted by: Colin (Oct 27, 2010 06:15PM)
This was the absolute hidden gem at MindVention!!

If you bought it, you're one of the lucky few who know what's going on, how clever it is and how effective!

Rock on my friend!

Col.
Message: Posted by: entity (Oct 28, 2010 08:33PM)
Yes. Excellent thinking from P. Redford on this. Uses technology effectively and invisibly to achieve a strong, direct effect.

Diabolical, in many ways. Glad he's working for us instead of against us.

- entity
Message: Posted by: mastermindreader (Oct 28, 2010 09:23PM)
While I'm not particularly enamored with cell phone effects, or apps etc., Patrick's "Voices" is really good and is something I will use. I recommend it without reservation.

Well done, Patrick. (Say 'hi' to George.)

Good thoughts,

Bob Cassidy
Message: Posted by: manofcards (Oct 29, 2010 12:33AM)
I was also lucky enough to pick this up at Mindvention. I feel that the method is very practical for real life performances. I can't wait to try this out. Thanks for releasing this Patrick.
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Oct 30, 2010 03:20PM)
Thank you Bob for your kind words, above! And yes it was also great to meet you!)

-Patrick
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Nov 1, 2010 06:22AM)
Alright, I just placed my order. I figured it's so inexpensive I'd take the chance.

I'll write up a review here once I get it!

Rob
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Nov 1, 2010 12:25PM)
I look forward to reading your thoughts, Rob.

Cheers.
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Nov 9, 2010 08:44AM)
This came in today. I'll need some time to play with it before I can write the review. But I'll be posting soon!

Rob
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Nov 9, 2010 08:09PM)
Thanks Rob.
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Nov 12, 2010 09:09AM)
This is my first review on the Café!

Despite the fact that this is a small booklet there is a lot of information packed in. I'll be reading and re-reading it.

The booklet includes four effects and an addendum.

Prophesy Voice

This is what I, and probably most of you, bought the booklet for. An impossible seeming audio prediction that can be played to reveal anything, anywhere anytime. Redford explains how to use not only a cell phone but literally any kind of audio recording device to make the play back.

I was a little skeptical at first until I tried it step-by-step with my cell phone in hand. The first run through was a bit choppy, but once I got the hang of the technique things ran very smoothly. This effect relies heavily on scripting to make the effect work. I've already played with developing my own script, but the supplied script will work fine for now. I like the idea of doing a confabulation with an audio prediction finale as explained in the addendum.

Voices
Interestingly, the title effect of the booklet isn't the audio prediction effect. I'm not sure why, but even still this is also an interesting concept. While I probably won't be trying this out as spirit voices and seances aren't my style this is a very interesting way to produce spirit voices on any recording without any special gimmicked equipment. Again, I haven't tried this, but I can't imagine it not working. I might have to give it a run next Halloween just for fun.

Radio EVP

This is a follow up to the Voices. While this doesn't seem like anything new, as it uses a special electronic device many of you will be familiar with (and I'd suspect your audience might catch onto as well if not handled properly). For my money, if I was doing this style effect, I'd think that producing spirit phenomenon on a borrowed cell phone or recorder or even one I brought with me would be much, much, stronger. This part of the booklet was the least interesting to me.



Six Through Three

This section explores a way to have a secret audio index allowing for a very clean sounding prediction of up to eight reveals using one mini tape recorder or six reveals using a cell phone. I haven't had much time to play with this yet either, but I would think it would be much easier to perform this with four reveals instead of the full six. I imagine a very clean looking equivoke style routine using the cell phone in this way with four different target objects being possible to help streamline the equivoke process. This will be something I play with more!

Addendum

Here Redford talks about using Prophesy Voice as an out much like one would use an invisible deck or a nail writer. This is certainly a very cool attribute of the system Redford describes! He also provides additional scripts for performing Prophesy Voice as a dressed prediction, a confabulation routine, and even an alternate script to what was provided in the first section.

The last part of the booklet includes Dan Huffman's original Sony Seance which is surprisingly a very different method to what Redford describes under the Voices title. "Balls?" is Dan's original take on the audio prediction. The method is clever, but I don't see it being nearly as effective as what Redford describes as Prophesy Voice. I'll stick with Redford's method. It's great to see where these effects came from though.

Overall I'm very happy with my purchase and this will be an effect I use. If for no other reason than that it's always ready to go. I will also be playing this at my professional gigs as I have the perfect spot to make use of it. The whole thing is relatively easy to execute, but it will take practice to get the whole thing down smoothly. I think whether you're a walk around performer, a platform performer, or even if you only perform socially for friends and family... Redford's Voices is a win. If I were to use a five star rating system I would give it four out of five.

-Rob
Message: Posted by: Celloboy (Nov 13, 2010 02:03PM)
Patrick showed me this effect in Mindvention, and it a cracking effect. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to never be caught without something to show. I always have my phone on me, and this is a great effect to do with it. A great effect from a true gentleman.
Pete
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Nov 19, 2010 12:08AM)
Oh come on people - didn't you learn anything from that recent thread? You're suppose to be creating controversy! Kidding, kidding. Thank you for the awesome review Rob. And Pete, thanks for the very kind comments.
Message: Posted by: PaulPacific (Nov 19, 2010 12:31AM)
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On 2010-10-26 14:06, PaulPacific wrote:
At MINDvention Patrick Redford demonstrated his new effect, "Voices". It is a modern twist on a classic Mentalism premise involving an audio prediction and a cellphone!

If you are a fan of Patrick's material then this is some strong thinking in a new direction!

Paul
[/quote]


I told y'all! :-P
Message: Posted by: tincture (Nov 19, 2010 11:28AM)
Alright - I don't see how anyone would love this trick. It's utter garbage and impractical. Don't buy this booklet. :)

Tim
Message: Posted by: ted french (Nov 19, 2010 12:07PM)
I agree, don't you think people will find it weird that you just so happen to have a cell phone in your pocket? Do people even use cellphones? Next time create an effect that uses technology people actually use, whats next a betamax prediction? I hope the sarcasm came through.
Message: Posted by: tincture (Nov 19, 2010 12:23PM)
Betamax! Now THAT would be one heck of a trick! Imagine reaching into your brief case and pulling out the play back machine, almost breaking the table setting it down, running the cords to the appropriate viewing device and playing back your prediction! Much more powerful!
Message: Posted by: ted french (Nov 19, 2010 01:38PM)
Thanks for having a sense of humor with my post.
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Nov 20, 2010 12:20PM)
Oh right. It's terrible.
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Nov 22, 2010 12:39AM)
It really is pretty useless technique isn't it?

Thanks everyone : )
Message: Posted by: tincture (Nov 28, 2010 09:48AM)
All of the joking around aside, I ordered this from Patrick and after a much anticipated period of time it arrived. Like with most of the products I've ordered with Patrick's name on it, I'm impressed at its cleverness. This really is a step forward in this type of thinking. A very clever effect from a very clever young man. The star effect seems to be Prophesy Voice but the other material is also very, very good. I hesitate to call this a "must have" but I can see how this can be the ideal effect to perform at a moments notice in formal situations or those times when someone catches you to "show them something". While I'm skeptical that this will replace secret writing devices I do see this being an ideal way to predict something or have a lay person read our minds in an organic and convincing manor. Well done, Mr. Redford.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Dec 16, 2010 01:01AM)
I have a question for those using Six through Three. I find that it's taking too much time to do the necessary "work" that needs to be done. Is anyone doing this successfully?

Also I've noticed in Prophesy Voice what's the best audio playback program to use if using a Droid?


Thanks!


Posted: Dec 16, 2010 1:31pm
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Anyone?
Message: Posted by: ted french (Dec 16, 2010 03:49PM)
Tincture, I just now got that you were kidding before. I totally thought you were dogging it.
Message: Posted by: tincture (Dec 16, 2010 10:09PM)
Really? Honestly, Ted? I was just having a bit of fun in response to Patrick's post:
[quote]
On 2010-11-19 01:08, Patrick Redford wrote:
Oh come on people - didn't you learn anything from that recent thread? You're suppose to be creating controversy! Kidding, kidding. Thank you for the awesome review Rob. And Pete, thanks for the very kind comments.
[/quote]

It's great.

-Tim
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Dec 19, 2010 02:17AM)
Really, no one?
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Dec 22, 2010 07:09PM)
How many views has this had and no one has any feedback? Patrick? Anyone?
Message: Posted by: Tragic Geek Patriot (Dec 27, 2010 12:15PM)
Looking for Redford? I've PMd him to no response. Has anyone heard from him?
Message: Posted by: tincture (Dec 27, 2010 01:32PM)
I don't have one of those fancy phones or I'd help you buddy. Have you tried emailing Patrick directly?
Message: Posted by: jdmagic357 (Dec 27, 2010 04:46PM)
Great marketing strategy. Start a buzz. Get some shallow testimonials. Finally vanish into thin air. This thing should sell like hotcakes. LOL

Cheers.
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Dec 29, 2010 08:00AM)
Jdmagic,

I haven't vanished into anything. The holidays came about and we all get busy. I'm always quick to respond to direct contact rather than PMs here or on any other forum. I have now since answered Tragic's question.

PGR
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Dec 29, 2010 05:55PM)
You sit upon a throne of lies!
I sent you a gold glitter thong and I have yet to get a reply!

J im

H.o.A-X
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Dec 30, 2010 10:20AM)
Jim,

What kind of reply were you looking for exactly? While the gold is nice, the rest was a bit ridiculous. My cat, though, enjoyed the snack.
Message: Posted by: ash2arani (Mar 7, 2011 08:12AM)
Now my interest into this manuscript is officially on!! Seems like there are no major limitations for the methods. How well would this play on stage?
Message: Posted by: Patrick Redford (Mar 9, 2011 12:49AM)
This plays very well on stage and I do just that.
Message: Posted by: conrad3000 (Feb 5, 2015 08:14PM)
With "Voices" or the "Radio EPK effect" can you make actual predictions or specific words come out? Like answers to questions? Or is it just strange noises?

I have Prophecy Voice but have not gotten this booklet yet.


Ryan