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Topic: Best thumb tip book or video?
Message: Posted by: landmark (Jul 17, 2003 01:24PM)
Which resources do you think are best to teach the proper use of a thumb tip and that have the most powerful effects?
thanks, landmark
Message: Posted by: Mark Martinez (Jul 18, 2003 10:36AM)
101 Tricks with a Thumb Tip Booklet has lots of ideas in it and the price is right ($2.95)!

If I remember correctly it does have a subtlety that IMHO makes the thumb tip very deceptive... In fact, as you put it, this subtlety is what I call proper use of the thumb tip.

Good Luck! :goodluck:
Message: Posted by: PyroDevil (Aug 13, 2003 10:58AM)
25 tricks with a thumb tip video, that's the way to go.
Message: Posted by: CardFan (Aug 13, 2003 01:15PM)
I would say Rules of thumb video series and if you speak french get the vid on the Faux Pouce by Gaetan Bloom. As usual it's a must.
Message: Posted by: desprado2 (Aug 13, 2003 03:28PM)
I have "Secret Seminars of Magic with Patrick Page" tape that deals with thumb tips. It has 30 effects and routines using a tt. It was only $20 at my magic shop and I recommend it.
Message: Posted by: dave s (Aug 18, 2003 07:55PM)
I have heard good things about Gary Darwin's work on the thumb tip. Has anyone actually read/seen this. Please let me know...
Message: Posted by: Mike Walton (Mar 16, 2004 10:37PM)
I also recommend Rules of Thumb. Not only does it teach nuances to eliminate tells, but also explains handlings that make sense. Steve Valentine has a nice vanished silk from sleeve or tie routine where a silk is vanished and appears, then repeated and found in the spectator's sleeve or tie. It's very good. I believe that's on video 1.
Message: Posted by: kihei kid (Mar 18, 2004 02:40AM)
Another vote for Rules of Thumb.
Message: Posted by: ksalaz1 (Mar 25, 2004 12:23PM)
101 tricks with a thumbtip is good for a start.
Message: Posted by: Dawai (Mar 26, 2004 12:33AM)
Dave s
I have Gary Darwin`s Thumb Tip Thinking. 25 tricks
Its a great book with lots of Illustrations.
Message: Posted by: amazingboz (Mar 26, 2004 09:09AM)
I have found Darwins books are great. He also offers
different types of tips( oops a punny :) ).Not all tips are created equal!

Message: Posted by: constantine (Mar 29, 2004 07:44PM)
The Patric Page Tape from L&L and the 101 Tricks book (check out trick number 102).
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Mar 30, 2004 02:12PM)
Patrick Page.
Message: Posted by: microastro (Mar 30, 2004 04:36PM)
My vote goes to Rule of thumb.. I have the # 1 and looking for number 2. I think # 2 is going to come out on DVD so they tell me.
Message: Posted by: Nicholas (Mar 30, 2004 07:19PM)
Patrick Page is the best I've seen for overall variety of solid technique. The only problem with most thumb tip books and vids I've seen it that most are stuck in the rut of using the thumb to steal the tip. I almost never use my thumb and can get away with far more natural moves without any rush and literally right under their noses. Not that what I do is so stupifyingly unique...its simply that I don't see why the resources out there don't expand on technique along similar lines. The nice thing about the Page tape is that he provides several ways to avoid showing the tt that are better than the old "keep your thumb pointed at the audience" ploy. In The Magic of Michael Ammar there is a chapter called Thumbtip Finesse where he demonstrates some handling that is more natural than the old "dip the thumb in the well" move. It is thought provoking and is what prompted me to think about it further and get to the point where I almost never use the thumb at all. I have not seen the Rules of Thumb tapes but if they include aspects as described by Mike Walton, above, then I'll have to put those on my wish list.
Message: Posted by: Totof (Mar 31, 2004 07:47AM)
Salvano has also some very good booklets on TT. Even with a fluo TT, you never see it.
Message: Posted by: TheMagicApple (Apr 3, 2004 01:43PM)
101 Tricks and the 25 Tricks with a TT are great starts! The books is a measley $2.95 and the video or DVD are like $10!
Message: Posted by: trainspotter (Dec 3, 2004 06:28AM)
Has anyone got Darwin's Encyclopedia of Thumb Tip Magic?
Message: Posted by: ehands (Dec 21, 2004 10:10AM)
On 2004-12-03 07:28, trainspotter wrote:
Has anyone got Darwin's Encyclopedia of Thumb Tip Magic?

Look under 'Dvd, Video, Audio tapes & Compact discs.' for string 'Darwin's Encyclopedia of Thumb Tip Magic ...'
Message: Posted by: TaylorTheGreat (Dec 21, 2004 09:11PM)
Do any of you have your tt's made specially? if so, are they worth the price?
I'm curious.
Message: Posted by: Nicholas (Dec 22, 2004 06:32PM)
Although I've talked about it on other areas of the Café, I would like to mention Jeff MacBrides video download (about 10 - 11 minutes) on the thumb tip. I downloaded this one quite recently. The technique is pretty basic, but he describes a nice, practical routine that gives an up-beat reason for using a rainbow streamer. The routine includes the appearance and transition of the rainbow streamer, ending with a give-away. I found Jeff's performance style using the TT to be of interest, too. For 5 bucks, I think it is an excellent lesson on the thumb tip although it does not provide the myriad of tricks found in the other resources mentioned.
Message: Posted by: zur (Dec 22, 2004 10:58PM)
I liked Gary Darwin's Encyclopedia of Thumb Tips DVD. Its so jammed with information you'll never finish using it.
Message: Posted by: CyberDivan (Dec 23, 2004 03:42AM)
I just finished watching "Darwin- Encyclopedia of Thumb Tip Magic". It took me three days to get through 3 DVDs and the all the bonus material. I purchased mine from PenguinMagic.com for $39.95. I consider this one of my best buys of magic material. Darwin is the professor of thumb tip magic and you can see how he came to create over 500 magic effects. Lance Burton called him "the king of the thumb tip".

I was really inspire after watching the DVDs and I am now carrying my thumbtip in my pocket wherever I go. After watching so many tricks with the thumb tip, I think that I can use the thump tip to add to my existing tricks to enhance many of them.

I would greatly recommend this DVD to anyone!
Message: Posted by: calexa (Dec 23, 2004 09:24AM)
Thanks for this interessting discussion. I was always very reluctant about using a TP (only using D´Lite). But now I think I should reconsider the use. Seems to be a very good impromptu device....

Message: Posted by: friedpalm (Dec 29, 2004 12:59AM)
Ive got the Darwin DVD's and I think that "there GREAT" Darwin is a lot of fun to watch and a lot of the ideas are really fun plus he gives you a look at the SHOWGIRLS thumbtip and for me that was worth the price of addmission. I also have some tapes that I first learnt from that were put together by Kevin James that are real COOl.
Message: Posted by: ykstem (Dec 30, 2004 06:09PM)
Yeah, I 'd go with the Patrick Page video. His handling of the basic steal is far and away the best technique to use, imo.
Message: Posted by: zur (Dec 30, 2004 11:20PM)
I would go with the Darwin's Encylopedia of Thumb Tip Magic.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Santos (Dec 31, 2004 02:20PM)
Darwin's 101 Tricks With a Thumbtip

I've got the book, but the video looks pretty good as well. Same stuff. Good luck!

Message: Posted by: Comet (Dec 31, 2004 05:04PM)
One of the Best people I've seen work with a Thumb Tip is a maigicin by the name of Salvano. I lived in Germany for several years while in the USAF and was able to see him lecture three times. he would do an entire routine with a thumbtip and then at the very end reveal that it was a Chrome plated tip. I don't know if he has anything out on it or not but if you do find it it'll be a great source for you. other than that most anything that's been mentioned already in this thread is good.
Message: Posted by: desprado2 (Dec 31, 2004 05:25PM)
Actually Salvano has a tape on the thumb tip from The Greater Magic Library that has just recently been converted to DVD.
Message: Posted by: Danny Diamond (Jan 11, 2005 09:24AM)
Check out "Dusheck's Thump Tip Magic", by Steve Dusheck. It's a 128 page, hardbound book, and it retails for about $14-$17. I won a bid on eBay for it, and got the book for $7! Lots of interesting ideas to really get your mind going about some of the more obscure uses for the thumb tip.
Message: Posted by: Charles Adams (Jan 11, 2005 10:15AM)
Is the Pat Page steal something that is not covered in Darwins DVD set?
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 12, 2005 03:26PM)
I've seen Pat Page lecture a few times - great handling of a tip. I have a couple of Darwin's books and those are good, too. Rules of Thumb has me intrigued - might get that one.
Message: Posted by: Partizan (Jan 14, 2005 02:43AM)
What I find wrong with all of these is that they don't cover finger tips or sixth finger techniques.
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Jan 15, 2005 03:28PM)
Does anyone have both the Patrick Page video and the Rule of Thumb series ?
I have the Page video and Rules Vols 2 and 3, but not vol 1.
Would it be worth hunting down vol 1, or does the Patrick Page video pretty much cover it ?

Cyberhagen :bat:
Message: Posted by: magicmonkey99 (Jan 17, 2005 02:10PM)
Go for Darwin's dvd if you have the money, and if not just get 101 tricks with a thumb tip.
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Jan 20, 2005 01:42PM)
I've been working through Darwin's DVD I got for Christmas. It's a good thumb tip resource.
Message: Posted by: B.K.Pal (Dec 24, 2005 03:37AM)
Last night I was reading Anneman's 50 TRICKS WITH A THUMBTIP. Browsing the Café for further informtion on the topic, became aware about the vast information.Thanks to all contributors for the valuable info.
Message: Posted by: B.K.Pal (Dec 31, 2005 08:32AM)
Sorry for a mistake in my above post. FIFTY TRICKS WITH A THUMB TIP mentioned is by Milbourne Christopher.
Message: Posted by: A.J. (Dec 31, 2005 10:41AM)
Losander, a student of Salvano, has some of the finest thumbtip handling advice and ideas that I have ever witnessed. Check out his "Magic Anytime, Anywhere" DVD for his invaluable thumbtip moves and tips.

Message: Posted by: Foucault (Jan 3, 2006 06:27PM)
On 2005-12-31 11:41, A.J. wrote:
Losander, a student of Salvano, has some of the finest thumbtip handling advice and ideas that I have ever witnessed. Check out his "Magic Anytime, Anywhere" DVD for his invaluable thumbtip moves and tips.


I was going to say the same thing. Losander credits Salvano for teaching him his great TT handling. I'd be interested in learning from the source.
Message: Posted by: DanielSteep (Jan 4, 2006 11:13AM)
Personally I hate working with thumb tips I'm not sure y tho
Message: Posted by: ehands (Jul 5, 2007 03:50PM)
L&L has Patrick Page's "Secret Seminars of Magic Thumb Tips" on DVD now for only $12.50!
Message: Posted by: manal (Jul 6, 2007 10:17AM)
That is the regular price for all of the Page Secret Seminar DVD's.They are great value.
Message: Posted by: dxsare (Jul 8, 2007 01:23AM)
I'm surprized nobody has mentioned Alexander de Cova's handling of the thumb tip. You can see it on Examining the Thumb Tip, which has a great discussion on the use of the thumb tip, and ways of getting away from the traditional uses, and also can get some nice information on Treasures Vol 1 in the Purse Swindle routine.

Stevie D
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jul 8, 2007 03:05PM)
DeCovas thumb tip DVD came out in the gap of time between posts, it has been brought up in a number of other threads about the thumb tip. Treasures ia a great series and the thumb tip part was on the L&L consolidation of thumb tip routines that is very nice.
Message: Posted by: CaptRitz (Jul 12, 2007 08:25PM)
Both J Scott Berry and Rocco have made improvements to TT technology and have videos.
Rocco's fliptip allows an easy one handed silk production for example.
Message: Posted by: CAROLINI (Jul 16, 2007 04:28PM)
Anyone interested in the TT should definitely have Alex DeCova's DVD. It will surpass anything that you have seen before.