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Topic: Trailer / Gambler - Julien Labigne
Message: Posted by: DrAz (Dec 9, 2010 04:22PM)
A new mentalism effect by Julien Labigne.

You can see the trailer on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS0yA3ztL8s

Enjoy
Message: Posted by: jekyllandhyde (Dec 9, 2010 07:32PM)
Looks nice. Any info on availability?
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Feb 24, 2011 08:04AM)
Available on March, 2nd (at least in France)
Message: Posted by: Gorecki (Feb 24, 2011 08:51AM)
I'll be keeping my eye on this.
(Cute nod at Inception, there...)
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Feb 24, 2011 09:19AM)
Very nice and interesting effect. Look forward to getting this.

DrAz, thank you for the heads-up.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Martin Adams (Feb 24, 2011 03:01PM)
Can you describe us the effect? It looks like a nice prediction effect.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Feb 25, 2011 01:59AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-24 16:01, Martin Adams wrote:
Can you describe us the effect? It looks like a nice prediction effect.
[/quote]

Martin, there is only a trailer at the moment (at the beginning of the thread)... It is a three phases prediction effect, based on gambling (dice, poker chip and cards).
Message: Posted by: maach (Feb 27, 2011 01:03PM)
Hello, Gambler is available today and until March 1 before its official release on March 3.

Thank you
bye
Message: Posted by: DrAz (Feb 27, 2011 02:52PM)
You can buy it directly from the website :

http://www.marchanddetrucs.com/magasin-de-magie/thematiques/mentalisme/gambler-dvd-gimmicks-.html

There is no additionnals shipping charge on this trick, only 5 euros like european customers.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Feb 28, 2011 09:28AM)
Ordered :) Can't wait! I will give you a review as soon as I receive it.
Message: Posted by: maach (Feb 28, 2011 09:46AM)
In my opinion, it's a very very good trick
Message: Posted by: Markymark (Feb 28, 2011 10:55AM)
Do you have it? Can you use that deck of cards for something else after it?
Message: Posted by: fvdbeek (Feb 28, 2011 11:20AM)
Wow, 50 euro's and over a week 60 euro's. Quite steep...
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 1, 2011 03:31AM)
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On 2011-02-28 12:20, fvdbeek wrote:
Wow, 50 euro's and over a week 60 euro's. Quite steep...
[/quote]

Yes, but it is a worthwhile idea behind the effect(s)
Message: Posted by: jekyllandhyde (Mar 1, 2011 07:02AM)
[quote]
On 2011-02-28 12:20, fvdbeek wrote:
Wow, 50 euro's and over a week 60 euro's. Quite steep...
[/quote]

I agree. Let me know when the price comes down to around $30 US.
Message: Posted by: davidmag (Mar 1, 2011 02:26PM)
I hope that there is not Popper deck in play and that the dice doesn't fall always on the four... Otherwise I'm in.
I would love to order this, but I don't understand french. Any help?
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 1, 2011 02:31PM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-01 15:26, davidmag wrote:
I hope that there is not Popper deck in play and that the dice doesn't fall always on the four... Otherwise I'm in.
I would love to order this, but I don't understand french. Any help?
[/quote]

Don't worry, Julien also did his DVD in english
Message: Posted by: Markymark (Mar 1, 2011 02:37PM)
David mag try using the live translate when you right click on your mouse although the ad still doesn't give that much info in English either!
It does say it comes with a deck so you could be right about that!
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 1, 2011 04:01PM)
I'd like to be surprised by something [b]truly brilliant[/b] for a change.........something [i]other[/i] than a force deck combined with multiple outs.
Message: Posted by: davidmag (Mar 1, 2011 04:29PM)
Let me say that I could swallow the Popper, but definitively don't want to be in situation when the spectator say: 'Can I roll the dice again?' And I will go: 'Uhmm...well...uhm...NO, you can't!
Specially not for the price of 60 euros.
Message: Posted by: Gorecki (Mar 2, 2011 08:22AM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-01 15:26, davidmag wrote:
I hope that there is not Popper deck in play and that the dice doesn't fall always on the four... Otherwise I'm in.
I would love to order this, but I don't understand french. Any help?
[/quote]
I don't know about the deck, but the (French) description does say that the spectator CHOOSES one face on the die. No roll: an actual choice.

My curiosity is piqued.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 2, 2011 08:27AM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-02 09:22, Gorecki wrote:
I don't know about the deck, but the (French) description does say that the spectator CHOOSES one face on the die. No roll: an actual choice.

My curiosity is piqued.
[/quote]

Indeed, the dice is never rolled during the performance. Only the spectator freely chooses the face of the dice.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 2, 2011 09:32AM)
I'd like to see (for once!) the marketing "speak" dropped, and an honest description of what does and doesn't happen during the effect.

To say the spec "freely chooses" the face of the dice is fine, as long as that's what he does.
If however, he adds up opposite sides, and then does some math to arrive at his "freely chosen" side of the dice.........that's very different (and a crappy method).
Not that this is what I'm suggesting is at play here, but "freely chosen" has a definite meaning in the English language.........so I would hope the face is freely chosen.

Multiple outs lurking at various places throughout your props is also lame, and been done before.

As I posted above, a force deck with multiple outs isn't an idea worth 60 Euros, and it's also an effect that I (and I suspect many others) have already, [i]many times over[/i].
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 3, 2011 05:40AM)
Received today. Wonderful, nice scenario, nice routine, simple, it kills. I will have pleasure to work on it. I give it a solid 8/10 ;)
Message: Posted by: Markymark (Mar 3, 2011 07:32AM)
Not 10 out of 10? The scenario is indeed very good.A tiny bit like the Paul Wilson Predator wallet routine. Could you use the cards for something else straight after?
Message: Posted by: davidmag (Mar 3, 2011 02:12PM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-03 06:40, doriancaudal wrote:
Received today. Wonderful, nice scenario, nice routine, simple, it kills. I will have pleasure to work on it. I give it a solid 8/10 ;)
[/quote]


Well I don't call that a review. Can you tell us a little more? What the props looks like(cards,...),is the method good,what about the handling? Can spectator freely choose the number on the dice? Why you rank this 8/10? ...and so on and so forth.

I mean give us a decent review man!
Message: Posted by: DrAz (Mar 3, 2011 02:47PM)
This is the special page for US customers.

http://www.marchanddetrucs.com/pages/produit.php?produit=gambler-dvd-gimmicks-us-customer

For the moment the trick is only available in France.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 3, 2011 03:03PM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-03 06:40, doriancaudal wrote:
nice scenario, nice routine, simple,......
[/quote]
Hardly a ringing endorsement.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 3, 2011 05:11PM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-03 15:12, davidmag wrote:

Well I don't call that a review. Can you tell us a little more? What the props looks like(cards,...),is the method good,what about the handling? Can spectator freely choose the number on the dice? Why you rank this 8/10? ...and so on and so forth.

I mean give us a decent review man!
[/quote]

The props are very nicely made, everything comes in a beautiful box, with all the props and gimmicks you need to perform the effect. The method is good, the deck can be handled freely, juste like the dice and the chips. All the cards are shown to be different by the performer. The spectator can choose any number he wants on the dice.
I don't rate it 9 or 10 because of some extra things (you will see what I mean if you have it).
The routining is excellent, the story brings a lot of suspense inot the spectator's mind, everything has been thought carefully by Julien.
I am not used to do reviews, and english is not my native language, so don't hesitate to ask me questions about my feeling :)
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 3, 2011 05:41PM)
Is the reveal [i]always[/i] shown by turning the paper money over?
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 4, 2011 05:14AM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-03 18:41, silverking wrote:
Is the reveal [i]always[/i] shown by turning the paper money over?
[/quote]

According to you?...
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 4, 2011 08:41AM)
Your answer reveals all most folks need to know.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 4, 2011 09:11AM)
I never said the bill is not the only way to reveal... You may be completely wrong :)
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Mar 4, 2011 09:23AM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-04 10:11, doriancaudal wrote:
I never said the bill is not the only way to reveal... You may be completely wrong :)
[/quote]

He's saying that the effect has multiple outs. That's all he needs to know to not buy this trick.

I like the premise though. Though I would have all the possibilities on a gaming slip and NW the prediction by circling the right values.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 5, 2011 05:11AM)
[quote]
That's all he needs to know to not buy this trick.
[/quote]

It's a pity then...
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 6, 2011 06:33PM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-05 06:11, doriancaudal wrote:
[quote]
That's all he needs to know to not buy this trick.
[/quote]

It's a pity then...
[/quote]
Perhaps you might want to consider continuing to eat your cards rather than trying to "tell" me what is, and what isn't a pity :)
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 7, 2011 02:50AM)
[quote]
Perhaps you might want to consider continuing to eat your cards rather than trying to "tell" me what is, and what isn't a pity :)
[/quote]

Yes, and I will continue to eat them :) Then maybe I won't read stuff like what you told before (just because you know the principle, you don't buy: I thought youtube kids were used to do that... Apparently I was wrong).
Message: Posted by: silverking (Mar 7, 2011 09:19AM)
Marketing and shilling magic tricks most definitely [i]isn't[/i] your forte...........you do Mr. Labigne [i]no[/i] favors.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 7, 2011 09:49AM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-07 10:19, silverking wrote:
Marketing and shilling magic tricks most definitely [i]isn't[/i] your forte...........you do Mr. Labigne [i]no[/i] favors.
[/quote]

Can you explain why please? I am curious...
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Mar 10, 2011 05:28AM)
So, those who have ordered it, what do you think of it?
Message: Posted by: davidmag (Mar 26, 2011 12:43PM)
Anyone else got this? Comments?
Message: Posted by: Jean-Luc.R. (Mar 26, 2011 01:37PM)
Gambler (DVD+Gimmicks) US Customer
US Customers

There isn’t additionnal shipping charge for this trick, only 5 euros like european customer. You need to register, and place order. Thank you.
Description

You’re looking for a original mentalism routine you can really add to your repertoire? gambler is the one you need…

from the professional stuff of Julien Labigne, Gambler has been performed during Julien’s show, « 4 secrets ». Now it’s time for you to also perform this miracle.

You introduce a box containing several gambling items like a die, 2 chips and a deck of 52 playing cards.

First, the spectator has to make a choice between the 2 chips. 500 or 1 000… One he gives you, one he keeps for him.

Then, the spectator chooses a number on the die, ANY number. The die is perfectly genuine, and the spectator really chooses the number he wants.

Finally, you show all the cards and put them one by one face down on the table. The spectator stops you when he wants.

One chance on 2, One chance on 6, One chance on 52,

It makes a chance on 624 to get the right combination. You reveal your prediction, that perfectly matches with all the decisions made by the spectator !
What you get in the box

DVD : demo and explanation (french and english).
All props needed: a die, 2 chips, a real one dollar bill printed, a matchbox from a casino.
A special deck of card specially designed for the routine (bicycle).

All the props are delivered in a beautiful packaging
Strong points

Easy to do
Great impact
No complicated gimmick, just a great principle that allows you to create a strong peace of mentalism, anytime anywhere !
Message: Posted by: DrAz (May 4, 2011 03:40AM)
The trick was available on all of the best magic shop around the world :)
Message: Posted by: David Klass (May 4, 2011 03:59AM)
Anyone know if you can use your own die?

I'm thinking Multi Dimensional and you don't see the number chosen ;)
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (May 4, 2011 04:20AM)
Yes you can use your own dice, no problem.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 6, 2011 01:20PM)
Now available in the United States - and a demo to boot:
http://www.trickshopmagic.com/gambler.html
Message: Posted by: Artie Fufkin (May 6, 2011 03:01PM)
Looks interesting, although for $85.00 it's surprising there aren't already a bunch of reviews on the Café from people who have actually bought and used this.

It was put out late last year.

So for me, the lack of reviews is a bit of a concern.
Message: Posted by: DrAz (May 6, 2011 08:40PM)
Artie if you understand french, come on the french magic forum, there is lot of comments about Gambler.

http://www.virtualmagie.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/273669/Searchpage/6/Main/29730/Words/gambler/Search/true/Re_Tour_Gambler_de_Julien_LABI#Post273669

Don't know if you can read it without login on the forum.

All of the comments are really positive, and all of the customers are very enthusiastic about Gambler.
It's not only a trick, you can perform a 5-6 minutes mentalism routine with the props, and the routine was tested by Julien during severals years in real condition.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 6, 2011 10:36PM)
Copy the link above (French site) and place in Google Translate link below - you can then read the whole thread from French to English easily and go from page to page:

http://translate.google.com/#
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 6, 2011 10:47PM)
Hint:

Skip to page #8 on the French Thread for the meat and potatoes as the prior pages all read pretty much like the one's here at the Café - criticism of the teaser trailer, wondering if MC is used to F***e things, etc. No matter the language, the bickering and speculation sound familiar!
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (May 8, 2011 09:12PM)
Penguin is now selling this too - http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S13261

Obviously distribution is happening in the United States too.

I read the entire thread on the French web site and the reviews are overwhelmingly positive. There are a few language errors but it seems that French speaking magicians are quite happy with Gambler.
Message: Posted by: takeachance (May 9, 2011 03:35AM)
Picked this up today and was disappointed that I did. Very, very, basic principles and tools used, nothing special for the money. To the advertisements credit, it does actually say that. I thought it would be more for the money. For me it was way overpriced. If it sold for $35 I'd be less disappointed but would still put it in the back of the draw.
Message: Posted by: Artie Fufkin (May 9, 2011 08:43AM)
Thanks for the honest review as an owner of the effect.
Message: Posted by: DrAz (May 9, 2011 11:17AM)
[quote]I read the entire thread on the French web site and the reviews are overwhelmingly positive. There are a few language errors but it seems that French speaking magicians are quite happy with Gambler.[/quote]

Yes, lot of them test it and approve the trick. And now the trick was in their close-up case.
And of course it's more expensive for American customers due to the conversion for you between euros and dollars.
Message: Posted by: BaryBazz (May 15, 2011 12:55PM)
For what its worth here's my review.
Firstly for me any effect comprises of two parts , the hardware and the software.The hardware is good and can be presented with confidence in all close up conditions as long as you have a table and no jacket is required.
So now we come to the crux of this effect.The techniques used will be familiar to most experienced magicians but the same can be said for the majority of tricks released.What makes this a winner is the great use of these techniques to produce an interesting storyline and a punchy ending which most spectators will applaud.Is this value for money ? Well not if you add up the cost of the props or are looking for some new mind blowing method.However if you want an effect that plays well , is certainly entertaining and doesn't require a huge amount of skill then this may suit you.
To me this is a worker and I will use it.I will give it 8 out of 10 because I love the storyline and hats off to Julien for coming up with that before anyone else.

BARRY
Message: Posted by: Quentin (May 17, 2011 05:31AM)
The idea of using a gambling theme for a three-part prediction is that of Doc Shiels and was published in an early Invocation magazine (Chips, Dice, Cards).

You can find Ross Johnson's version on his Simply Psychic DVD and Docc Hilford's version on his Monster Mentalism DVD set. Both are well worth your time checking out if this type of routine appeals to you.
Message: Posted by: braunmagic (May 17, 2011 12:56PM)
I just posted one of these in the for sale section for $60 including shipping.
Let me know if anyone is interested.

Brent Braun
Message: Posted by: robvh (May 18, 2011 09:45AM)
My impression is this:
1. People expecting a method with no outs are likely to be disappointed and feel that they drastically overpaid for the props.
2. People expecting a method with multiple outs, and who have some experience in magic already, have already deduced the method (or a similar one) without much effort.