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Topic: Credits
Message: Posted by: EmersonRodriguez (Dec 19, 2010 12:38PM)
Someone know who is the first credited magician for use the "double sided tape principle",
to make a card disappear in the deck?

Message: Posted by: EmersonRodriguez (Dec 21, 2010 02:58PM)
Someone wants to try?

Message: Posted by: EmersonRodriguez (Dec 27, 2010 03:21PM)
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Dec 27, 2010 03:31PM)
? you mean a dab of wax? or a photographic mounting oval?
Folks have been using the principle for a while.

A less obvious (or Too Perfect) use is in the "peek at a card" type gaff. ;)
And that was also in use before I got into magic - makes a nice force too.
Message: Posted by: Denis Bastible (Dec 27, 2010 03:41PM)
I think he wants to know who first advocated the use of double sided tape instead of wax or other sticky substance. I have no clue but it seems the natural extension of the wax use
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Dec 27, 2010 08:35PM)
Hmmm interesting question. Must have been relatively recently as David Roth as been touting carpet tape for his lapel coin, and the ovals are mentioned in Expert Card Mysteries (where you find Jenning's Visitor trick among other goodies) so my guess is the recent resurgence came from those who were not shown those sources and maybe worked backwards from a Devano Deck or a Dark Card. About 1990 or so at a guess.
Message: Posted by: saysold1 (Dec 27, 2010 09:15PM)
3M ? :)
Message: Posted by: tstark (Dec 28, 2010 11:49PM)
Strange that you should ask. I am aware that the first uses for the cellophane tape began to show up in the 1940s when the 3M product was in its infancy. I had always been curious as to how long the double sided variety had been around and I stumbled across an article in my Hugard Magic Monthly books that I have been reading recently. Unfortunately all of the articles are blending in my head right now but in the late 40s one of the issues mentions using double sided cellophane tape and I am 90%+ positive that it was for a card effect. I will do some research and see if I can rediscover the article.
Message: Posted by: EmersonRodriguez (Dec 29, 2010 01:05AM)
I Know this is very old because of this is hard to give the proper crediting
I apreciatte if you can find something "tstark"

Message: Posted by: tstark (Dec 30, 2010 12:17PM)
Unfortunately when I found the article it appears it falls into the 10%. It was Elmer Applegit in July of 1945 and he recommended its use for the Chinese Laundry Ticket as a substitute for glue which could bleed through the tissue paper. It is the earliest application that I have found for the relatively new 3M product but I would have to agree with denisb in that it was a natural progression from wax or diachylon as it was commonly known. I am certain that I have come across references to an early application to cards in my reading but I have no idea where to begin to look to recover that information.
Message: Posted by: EmersonRodriguez (Jan 3, 2011 11:59PM)
Thankyou very much tstark!
Message: Posted by: brody (Jan 6, 2011 07:05PM)
I seem to remember a bunch of items by Joseph White(?) a little person magician that was in the Linking Rings years ago. Did tons of things with regular tape foldd sticky side out to form a circle.