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Topic: All Screwed Up
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (Jul 23, 2003 09:35AM)
I love this effect but was wondering if anyone uses an alternative patter to Doc Eason. I feel uncomfortable using his because of the "sucker" effect.

Is there any other alternative than telling it as a trick which someone did to you (so you become the sucker)?

Thanks
Graham
Message: Posted by: SOHartist (Jul 23, 2003 02:59PM)
Could you tell me more about this trick? And if you can, I'd suggest you being the sucker. (no offense) :goof:
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (Jul 24, 2003 02:38PM)
The plot is as follows…
3 nuts are shown.
2 go in the hand and one in the pocket.
Hand is opened to show 3 nuts again.

This is repeated a few times but the last time there is now 2 nuts and a bolt.

The bolt goes in the hand and the 2 nuts in the pocket and the 2 nuts are made to magically pass into the hand. When the hand is opened the 2 nuts are shown to be threaded onto the bolt.

Strangely I dreamt last night that someone had posted a patter which involved a dog which kept returning to it’s elderly lady owner!
Message: Posted by: Myrddin (Jul 24, 2003 03:02PM)
I like a straight forward patter in most of my routines. A card is a card, a bolt is a bolt and a nut is a nut. So a card will never be a detective, a bolt won't ever be a dog in my routines. ;)

However "All Screwed Up" is an ideal trick to play with words and such : bolt vs bold, now I screw it, it drives me nuts... Because you're English speaking, I'm sure you'll find a patter along this idea, if it suits you...

Peter Vanspauwen
Message: Posted by: marko (Jul 27, 2003 12:08AM)
This is a great trick. I like the patter Doc uses. With the 'two-in-the-hand, one-in-the-pocket' scenario, it's very difficult to get away from the 'sucker' scenario. "I have three, I put one in my pocket, how many are left?" If you're polite about it, it's not a 'challenge' situation. If you say "No, there's three, gee you're dumb!" you're asking for trouble. With the right attitude, it's fine. It's a comedy effect, so treat it with the light-heartedness it deserves, and you'll get a good response without turning into a 'sucker' thing. Pretending the props are something else (like a dog and elderly lady) wouldn't work because the comedic pay-off involves the literal representation of the props ("I 'screwed' up!"), not what they symbolize.
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (Jul 27, 2003 03:46AM)
Thanks for the replies. Marko that was very helpful.
Thanks
Graham
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Jul 27, 2003 04:45AM)
While Doc Eason may have popularized it, the effect actually is by Gary Frings and first (to my knowledge) appeared in Genii magazine back in the early '60s.
Message: Posted by: Doc Eason (Aug 14, 2003 10:20AM)
Peter,
You are close...it is Christopher Frings and it was in a Genii mag in the late 70’s.

I have met Christopher and cleared this with him ...and I give him credit when I do my lecture...

Dollar for dollar, it is one of the most commercial routines out there...the best...

doc
Message: Posted by: Ty Argo (Aug 14, 2003 02:27PM)
Where might one learn this interesting effect?
Oh Doc, by the way, you're not planning on coming around Ohio for a lecture anytime soon, are you?
Thank you.
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (Aug 14, 2003 02:51PM)
Ty - You can find this on Bar Magic: The Real Work A 'Doc'umentary Volume 3. All the stuff on the tape is great and it also includes Docs handling of the Anniversary Waltz.

Graham
Message: Posted by: preston91 (Sep 18, 2003 10:05AM)
Doc also sells this effect individually at http://www.doceason.com.
I like it and use it often..
Paul
Message: Posted by: Craig Petty (Jun 17, 2020 01:57PM)
Hey guys. I’ve started a new magic review show with my son Ryland. On this weeks show we review All Screwed Up and discuss the pros and cons of the trick.

Here’s a link to the review show.

https://youtu.be/_DAkgpsLZX4

Any questions let me know.
Message: Posted by: jdub (Jul 3, 2020 05:12PM)
Ryland did an awesome job!