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Topic: Numero Uno
Message: Posted by: Paul (Apr 20, 2002 10:08AM)
Anyone use this packet trick by Jim Vetter and Phil Goldstein from the early seventies?

I have altered the handling a little...

Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (May 8, 2002 12:16AM)
Gee Paul, the name sounds very familiar. Can you describe the effect?
Message: Posted by: Paul (May 8, 2002 01:57AM)
You have five cards with numbers on, one has a 1 on it, the rest apparently each have a 5 on. A 5 is placed face down to one side.

You turn the 1 face down and ask what the result would be if you subtracted 1 from 5. You remove the top card to show a 4. And if you take 1 from 4 you ask as you table the four to reveal a three, then a two.

Next you ask if they remember what the face down card you are holding is. They say "1" but it is now a five. Finally you point to the five that was left to one side initially and ask what they think that is.

You say you are covered for any response and this card face turns out to be covered in numbers.

This is still available from Hank Lee, a very low priced item (probably remaining stock from the original seventies print run) hence the seventies price!

Message: Posted by: Thoughtreader (May 8, 2002 07:50AM)
I haven't done it in years but it was one of the few packet tricks I used to perform a lot in restaurants when I was doing a lot of them way back when. I never did the conventional handling but then again, it has been so long I doubt I can remember how to do it anymore anyway. It was however a trick that got many a giggle from the kids as I "tested their mathematical abilities".

PSIncerely Yours,
Paul Alberstat
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (May 8, 2002 03:17PM)
Thanks Paul, I'll have to check it out.
Message: Posted by: Paul (May 8, 2002 03:26PM)
I think there's another trick waiting to escape from that handling. :)

I certainly eliminated the turning of the packet face down simply to do a double lift and back then deal off, and turn the packet face up again. A bit illogical. I table the one (as this odd ONE is a special ONE) then Jordan count to show the remainder of the cards are the same, four fives. I then Elmsley count commenting if we add the fives (adding them as each is shown) 5 + 5 =10, +5 is 15 and the last 5 is 20. Nothing to do with the experiment I point out, I just wanted this to be educational as well as entertaining. A break is obtained above the bottom card and this is peeled away with a wrist turn action and deposited face down.

I think it flows better and is a more open, convincing display that there are four fives.

Yes, I think if I'd had this years ago when I worked in a restaurant it is the sort of thing I would have kept in reserve for those family groups. You confirmed my thoughts on this Paul.

Paul Hallas.