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Topic: Looking for a review of this table
Message: Posted by: wonderbob (Jan 23, 2011 08:39AM)
Hi Everyone,
I was think about geting this table but I don't know if it's any good. If anyone has this table can some please give me a review. Sorry about the image been so small. but here is the link to the table
http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/magicians-folding-table-p-4027.html
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 23, 2011 10:34AM)
You did not mention how you intend to use this type of Harbin table.

This table is good for light weight items. Best used to place a prop on momentarily during a trick presentation. The more expensive models are usually spring loaded so they open automatically.

They do tip over easily, if bumped. This is true for all tables of this type.

That is Terry Elton a great dry humor magician that makes everyone laugh. His web site does not have this table listed.
http://www.themagicofterryelton.com/new_page_1.htm
Message: Posted by: wonderbob (Jan 23, 2011 11:32AM)
I was going to use it for walk-around magic at restaurants. Is it good for that?

Posted: Jan 23, 2011 8:01pm
Does anyone have a review of this table?
Message: Posted by: mcharisse (Jan 23, 2011 09:03PM)
I like the idea, as the table breaks down so easily, and you avoid having to invade their table space...the Harbin table should worki nicely, though I can't speak to the model pictured in terms of quality...

Marc
Message: Posted by: wonderbob (Jan 23, 2011 09:32PM)
Marc do you know any others that are better?
Message: Posted by: Domino Magic (Jan 24, 2011 09:43AM)
I know one that is well built, although it costs a little more:

[url]http://magicsax.com/page3/page18/page18.html[/url]

I have one of these tables and it's fantastic. Thomas is great to work with because he builds the table to your specifications. Not only how you want it stained or painted, but height, table top size, color of padding, etc.

He also provides great communication along the way by send you photos of the table as it's being built.

I've worked with Harbin-style tables in the past and most suffer from being a bit wobbly. These are rock-solid. Jamie D. Grant can vouch for Thomas' work as well.
Message: Posted by: wonderbob (Jan 24, 2011 11:12AM)
Domino magic you said the Harbin tables are a bit wobbly. But in the demo video they look like they wold a lot of wait. Also I was going to use that table for restaurants would it be good for that?
Message: Posted by: Domino Magic (Jan 24, 2011 12:10PM)
What I meant were the Harbin tables I worked with in the past - not this one - were wobbly and not very sturdy. The tables that Thomas makes are solid!

I think they would be great for restaurants. I've used a table for restaurant work in the past, which was just a cymbal stand with a table top, but this one is better looking and much more stable.

He will give you a couple of choices for the thickness of the wood - 3/4" or 1/2". Since you would be moving this around a lot, I would recommend the 1/2" because it will be lighter.
Message: Posted by: wonderbob (Jan 24, 2011 12:53PM)
Dang so much info now I don't know what to do :( I like the Harbin table because it looks like from the video that it takes like 2 seconds to setup and take down and the Thomas table looks like it takes like 6 seconds. So I don't know what to do. :(
Message: Posted by: Domino Magic (Jan 24, 2011 01:01PM)
Well it's really a matter of personal preference. I don't have the other table, so I can't comment on it. It certainly looks lighter than Thomas' table, probably made from 1/4" wood. The working surface is also smaller, so it depends on what routines you're going to use it for. Thomas' table is great for cups & balls & chop cup because there is a lip on the top, so the balls aren't going to roll off.

Since you're using it for table hopping in restaurants, you may want to consider the first table, with weight and size being the biggest factor (although Thomas can make his table any size you want). I use Thomas' table on stage and wanted something sturdier than what the other table is. Jamie Grant uses Thomas' table for busking, so if it's going on the streets, you also want it to be a bit more robust.

Let us know which one you choose.
Message: Posted by: wonderbob (Jan 24, 2011 02:10PM)
I went with the first table. I just bought it. :) I hope I made the right choice :-/
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 24, 2011 03:11PM)
Harbin style tables simply aren't meant to hold large, heavy objects. As for using them in a restaurant, I know of no restaurant in my area where it could be used, unless you're doing a cabaret show. The table will get bumped and props will end up on the floor, if space is at a premium, as in most restaurants.
Message: Posted by: Domino Magic (Jan 24, 2011 03:24PM)
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On 2011-01-24 16:11, Alan Munro wrote:
Harbin style tables simply aren't meant to hold large, heavy objects.
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Check out the demo [url]http://magicsax.com/page3/page18/page18.html[/url]

You can put a Passport 150 on that! While that's an exaggeration of its use, I can tell you from experience that this is probably the sturdiest Harbin table out there.

All restaurants are different and I've used my own table in restaurants for many years. I don't think there is a hard & fast rule regarding the use of one. I think that the first table is the ideal solution for restaurants.
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 25, 2011 04:28PM)
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On 2011-01-24 16:24, Domino Magic wrote:
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On 2011-01-24 16:11, Alan Munro wrote:
Harbin style tables simply aren't meant to hold large, heavy objects.
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Check out the demo [url]http://magicsax.com/page3/page18/page18.html[/url]

You can put a Passport 150 on that! While that's an exaggeration of its use, I can tell you from experience that this is probably the sturdiest Harbin table out there.

All restaurants are different and I've used my own table in restaurants for many years. I don't think there is a hard & fast rule regarding the use of one. I think that the first table is the ideal solution for restaurants.
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I'd still be concerned over it folding, when bumped. That's certainly sturdy, but part of the charm of a packaway table is the ability to open and close it, rapidly and smoothly. I'd never use one between tables at a restaurant because it takes up enough space to get bumped. Even a tripod table is impractical in most restaurants, because it will position you such that you have to move to let people by you, during routines. If I perform in the hands, the need for a table is eliminated. Many closeup effects are impractical for restaurants.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jan 25, 2011 10:09PM)
I would say this table is not good for Restaurants, most seating is just to close to have a table in the isles.

I suggest you contact Scott Quinn and see if he has any of his Table Hoppers Friend left for sale. This was a piece of metal that was attached to a board with a close-up pad on it. It just went on the edge of a table very easily and removed easily. Great idea. He has taken down his web site and do to his taking a position full time with a church as pastor.

Mak Magic had some import copies of Scott's idea last year, but I cannot find it on their site currently.

Here is Scott's reference - http://themagiccafe.com/forums/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=76
Message: Posted by: dpe666 (Jan 29, 2011 09:24PM)
Why not just use the table that the patrons are sitting at? Unless you are entertaining the over flow a table just is not needed. Plus, this type of a table is not meant to be performed on. It is more of a prop holding table as has already been stated. :devilish:
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Feb 19, 2011 11:11AM)
I use the table mentioned in the original post. It's small, light-weight and works great. I use it in my stand-up act out front to hold a prop or 2. that's it. The surface is about 8x10 so very small. I think of it more as a prop, not a table.

I would hate to be without it but it's not meant for heavy use. I set these sort of things on it:
a wand, a deck of cards, a little box, a hat, .. that's about it.

I'm also not sure how durable it is. None of the hardware is real sturdy. Mine has not broken and I've used it for several years. I should have bought an extra for when it does break. Hopefully I'll be able to repair mine when it breaks.