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Topic: Cigar Boxes
Message: Posted by: joe yang (Feb 11, 2011 11:24AM)
Not the juggling kind, the wooden ones, with hinges or sliding lids and other one-off features. If your like me and like to tinker with found objects, empty boxes used to go for a couple dollars a pop at tobacco stores. The price is rising fast as more people are starting to discover them.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Feb 11, 2011 12:52PM)
My first magic box when I was a kid was made from a cardboard cigar box. It was a bit like a Flip Over Box, but I used it for productions.

I snatched up a handful of boxes, both cardboard and wooden a few years ago, and I've used them for a number of things.

Hobby Lobby has on occassion, unfinished boxes that are very close to cigar boxes, both hinged and sliding lids.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 11, 2017 01:15PM)
[quote]On Feb 11, 2011, Michael Baker wrote:
My first magic box when I was a kid was made from a cardboard cigar box. It was a bit like a Flip Over Box, but I used it for productions.

I snatched up a handful of boxes, both cardboard and wooden a few years ago, and I've used them for a number of things.

Hobby Lobby has on occassion, unfinished boxes that are very close to cigar boxes, both hinged and sliding lids. [/quote]

That's what I did too in my preteens magic "career" - an Egyptian Water Box made from a cardboard cigar box! I think I'm going to the cigar store today to look at cigar boxes !

Later on my grandfather helped me construct a wooden square and circle cabinet which saved my youthful budget immensely ! I think I have the skills now to make the square and circle.
Message: Posted by: ThunderSqueak (Nov 11, 2017 11:04PM)
I have used cigar boxes since I was a little kid :D I still look for them in 2nd hand shops, tho lately I have switched to using tins as they are easier to find. :)
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 12, 2017 08:10PM)
Got two Montecristo cigar boxes at my local spirits and cigars store (gratis). They have lids already hinged along short side -- perfect for a water box. Will need to duct tape them together to get a 4 inch depth to the box.
Inspired by another post I plan to decoupage some mediaval wood cuts on the front and back. Went to local crafts store to get some modpodge!
Message: Posted by: Tap Roniart (Nov 14, 2017 08:48PM)
My Goodwill stores locally always have goodies in the form of boxes & other storage. I don't know what this thread is asking, but if it doesn't have to be a cigar box (they don't wear well), I have a lot of small wooden boxes that would easily pass as cigar boxes after printing out hi-res images of sides & top and affixing with spray glue or... From 4-5' away & beyond, nobody could tell, and besides-why are they looking at the box, anyway?! :)
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 14, 2017 09:19PM)
[quote]On Nov 14, 2017, Tap Roniart wrote:
My Goodwill stores locally always have goodies in the form of boxes and other storage. I don't know what this thread is asking, but if it doesn't have to be a cigar box (they don't wear well), I have a lot of small wooden boxes that would easily pass as cigar boxes after printing out hi-res images of sides and top and affixing with spray glue or... From 4-5' away and beyond, nobody could tell, and besides-why are they looking at the box, anyway?! :) [/quote]

Just trying out cigar box projects in my case. As it turns out getting the backs off the boxes is turning into a chore with a box cutter. The box is not exactly cardboard. Rather it appears to be some form mdf board approaching a wood like quality.

I think I may just give up on the cigar box idea and construct the water box from plywood :)
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Nov 14, 2017 11:48PM)
[quote]On Nov 11, 2017, ThunderSqueak wrote:
I have used cigar boxes since I was a little kid :D I still look for them in 2nd hand shops, tho lately I have switched to using tins as they are easier to find. :) [/quote]

Check discount tobacco stores to see if they have a selection of cigars, sold by the piece. If they don't discard the empty boxes, they often sell them cheap enough to make it worth spending a few bucks. That was always my source.
Message: Posted by: Tap Roniart (Nov 16, 2017 09:59PM)
I used to make "shock boxes" out of cigar boxes... :)
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 19, 2017 01:22PM)
The factor for using cigar boxes is that many are cardboard or some sort of mdf material. As such they are easy to modify and provide the basic structure for production and vanishing boxes. They are "perfect" for those who have limited woodworking skills or lack easy access to a wood shop.
In general my motivations are:
(1) The cigar boxes are usually free.
(2) They are relatively easy to work with. (In my current project I needed to glue two boxes together to get a decent width for the "Egyptian water box.") There is the deconstruction/assembly phase then a reassembly and decorating phase.
(3) and making my own props appeals to my creative side.

I'll post several photos to document my progress. This is my first trial and error approach since my childhood!

Here are the free Montecristo boxes that hopefully will become a presentable Egyptian Water Box! I'm not done with it yet.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 19, 2017 01:37PM)
The boxes as they will be when glued together.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 19, 2017 02:02PM)
Here the bottoms have been removed, sides removed for new top of box and have been glued together with Loctite glue and reinforced with the universal fix it, duct tape :)
Still ugly at this point.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 19, 2017 02:35PM)
Here is what I use:
(1) Loctite go2 glue
(2) duct tape :)
(3) box cutter
(4) scissors
The empty trash bag single ply cardboard box will be cut apart and used to reline the interior to hide the duct tape and will be painted black.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 19, 2017 02:48PM)
Here is the box with the lids opened. Next step is to make it pretty.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 19, 2017 02:53PM)
To decorate it I plan to decoupage some prints of medieval wood cuts on the exterior sides. Here is one sample.
Message: Posted by: Cleverpaws (Nov 19, 2017 07:45PM)
Itís looking good! Thanks for posting all the progress photos.
Message: Posted by: Larry Barnowsky (Nov 20, 2017 02:01PM)
I use them for storing parts in the workshop and also small magic items like holders, coins, and gaffs.

The thin wooden inserts are useful for other building projects where very thin wood is required.
Message: Posted by: Rook (Nov 21, 2017 01:00AM)
[quote]On Nov 19, 2017, docguitarman wrote:
To decorate it I plan to decoupage some prints of medieval wood cuts on the exterior sides. Here is one sample. [/quote]

Very inspiring! I've got a few of these boxes lying around from an abandoned guitar project. Right now, I just use them to hold the small stuff in my magic table. I sense a new,project coming!
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 21, 2017 06:24PM)
[quote]On Nov 20, 2017, Rook wrote:
[quote]On Nov 19, 2017, docguitarman wrote:
To decorate it I plan to decoupage some prints of medieval wood cuts on the exterior sides. Here is one sample. [/quote]

Very inspiring! I've got a few of these boxes lying around from an abandoned guitar project. Right now, I just use them to hold the small stuff in my magic table. I sense a new,project coming! [/quote]

Thank you Rook! I'll post more photos soon. Turns out I learned I had better seal the inkjet prints of the woodcuts with acrylic sealer before decoupaging them. The sealer is on its way in the mail at the moment.

BTW, I've also made a cigar box guitar amp from a kit myself !
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 22, 2017 02:02PM)
Here is the new interior, relined with one ply cardboard and blackened with artist black gesso. Duct tape no longer in sight !
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 23, 2017 03:36PM)
Nearly finished. Just need to add the lo*d! Side 1.
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 23, 2017 03:37PM)
Side 2
Message: Posted by: docguitarman (Nov 23, 2017 03:37PM)
Side 3