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Topic: Dan Needs A Last Name
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 13, 2011 10:13PM)
I have determined after much reflection that Dan, my figure needs a last name; I have great affection for the name Dan and would feel uncomfortable changing it now; it as named in honor of the designer, Dan Payes.

If I leave it Buzz and Dan the public may possibly confuse who the Ventriloquist is and who the figure is.

If I call the show Buzz Lawrence and Dan, Danís name just hangs at the end of the sentence.
Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney have a great sound and were very successful.

I like Blueshawk1ís practice of how he names his figure his reasoning has merit; a double ďDĒ So Buzz Lawrence and Dan Dugan, Dan Duncan, Dan (INSERT LAST NAME HERE).

If you would like to participate in the naming of Dan; whatever name discussed here that has the most votes, and is easy for me to vent has an excellent chance of being Danís last name.

Here he is:

[IMG]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee369/Buzz-Lawrence/DanWeb1.jpg[/IMG]
Message: Posted by: DaveRobison (Feb 13, 2011 10:34PM)
Breaking from the Double D,

I like Dan Cornelius (Cause he looks like a cool hip guy with some inner soul)

Dan Hayes (variation on Payes)

Dan O'Leary (for that ethnic slant, and "DANIEL O'LEARY" when times call for a raised voice.)

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Dave
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 13, 2011 11:10PM)
Dave;

Thanks for the input; the names by themselves sound very good.

I wrote all three names down and tried them out with Dan by video recording and playing back a short routine that I had written to test names submitted by members.

Buzz Lawrence and Dan Cornelius

Buzz Lawrence and Dan Hayes

Buzz Lawrence and Dan O'Leary

In my voice and the voice of Dan, the last name of all three does not have a punch that Iím looking for.

I donít know what I want in a last name, but when I hear it played back Iíll know it.

Thanks for the suggestions and please keep trying.

Buzz
Message: Posted by: Dickens & Dave (Feb 13, 2011 11:15PM)
I don't have a suggestion for a last name, more of relating how I came up with my names to spark ways for you to come up with one.

When I chose "Dickens" for the last name of my little vent family, it was simply because I was a fan of Charles Dickens books. Also, there used to be sayings like "what a little dickens" and "scared the dickens out of me" - now such old sayings they wouldn't mean anything and no longer useful as lines.
The double D thing wasn't intentional until this last figure. My first pro figure way back when getting named "Dondi" was simply because I liked the cartoon strip and it was different and it did go well with the last name I already decided on. "Dagwood" from the Blondie cartoons just sounded like a good name for a goof figure. "Darren" I got from one of my favorite TV shows, "Bewitched" (though I spell it differently than they did in that show).
And all of my figures first names along with their common last name, (with the exception of "Paul" and the last part of "Hannibal") are easy to say ventriloquially.

I just had this little bit coming to mind that almost plays like a "who's on first" routine.
Give him the last name of "Dee" - obvious play on "dandy".
V. This is my little friend Dan Dee (with no attempt to keep it from sounding like one word).
F. That's right.
V. So what's your last name?
F. You just said it, my name is Dan Dee.
V. I know your name is Dandy, but I want to know what your last name is.
F. It's Dee!
V. D what?
F. What do you mean "D what", it's Dee, Dan Dee!
V. Yes, I know your name is Dandy, but I still don't know your last name.
And I could go on, but you get the idea. Maybe finally having him spell his name to get through to you. And if it's a kid's show and you have his name on some sort of a banner, Dan could ask the kids to help him get through to you (as long as they were kids of reading age).
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 14, 2011 01:35AM)
How about Dan DeLion?

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: DaveRobison (Feb 14, 2011 02:02AM)
I guess I understand the "knowing it when you hear it" part. I had Skyler's first name at the first drawing I did of him, but no last name. He didn't have a last name for about 6 months, until I went off to college. A friend I met in college went by the nickname "Lee" and I found out it was for Leglantier, his middle name.

Skyler was sort of the dorm floor mascot and my college buddies gave him a lot of his personality. I asked permission to use Leglantier as his last named. It seemed to fit Skyler's first name and made him sound classy until he opened his mouth.

Good luck with name. I'm sure you'll find one or one will develop.

Dave
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 08:30AM)
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On 2011-02-14 02:35, Steve at The Dummy Shoppe wrote:
How about Dan DeLion?

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
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OK, Dan DeLion is a possibility

I added the names
Dan Dugan
Dan Duncan

In a PM I received
Dan Daily
Dan Dolan

Any more names, or from the names here what is best liked?

How do the names sound?
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 08:32AM)
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On 2011-02-14 03:02, DaveRobison wrote:
I guess I understand the "knowing it when you hear it" part.

Good luck with name. I'm sure you'll find one or one will develop.

Dave
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Dave;

Thanks for the background on picking a name for your figure; its interesting knowing how names come to be.

If you want you can cast your vote on the names picked so far.

Buzz
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 08:42AM)
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On 2011-02-14 00:15, blueshawk1 wrote:

I don't have a suggestion for a last name, more of relating how I came up with my names to spark ways for you to come up with one.

When I chose "Dickens" for the last name of my little vent family, it was simply because I was a fan of Charles Dickens books.

Also, there used to be sayings like "what a little dickens" and "scared the dickens out of me" - now such old sayings they wouldn't mean anything and no longer useful as lines.
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blueshawk1;

I see you thoroughly sound the name out and make it very personal as well as developing a routine before picking a name for your figure; again, its interesting knowing how names develop.

Since you don't have a suggestion for a last name, if you want, you can cast your vote on the names picked so far.

Buzz
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 14, 2011 09:11AM)
Buzz,

What I was thinking about with DeLion was that if said properly, it does sound like a real Sir Name. Like Ponce DeLeon (the explorer). So it has its serious side, while at the same time it could be the basis of a joke in that said correctly it is also the name of a weed. Kind of a built in ring that could become part of the act and at the same time make the character more memorable to the audience. Gives you a built in edge like Jeff and Walter doing their bit on (phoneticly) dunam or Dunham or DunHAMMMMM.

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 09:43AM)
Steve;
I am going to work on the name and practice it with Dan this evening; Iíll let you know how it works out.
Message: Posted by: Servante (Feb 14, 2011 09:47AM)
It's a process, innit?
Louie's last name is Freeny, but I hardly ever use it with him. It's enough to know it's there.
Cooter's last name is Mudge, which comes from "mudgeon," which is the second half of "curmudgeon," which is what he is.
Sylvia's last name is Perkins, because she started out as a drop-in character I used to voice on radio, and only in the last few months, as I've rebuilt a 1970's Lovik figure has she become a member of my vent family (but I've got TONS of old scripts from the radio days to rework for vent routines!)
Huck's last name is Hannigan, because I like the rhythm and the alliteration and there's long been a tradition of Irish last names for vent figures.
I've been searching for a good name altogether for my Tater figure. It'll come.
And I have a duck soft puppet who hasn't a name yet...but will, when I know him better. His face makes me laugh.

As for Dan...hmmm. Pulling my Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable down from the shelf I find...
Well, "Dan" is an ancient title meaning "Sir," which is where we get "Dan Cupid" as well as "Dan Chaucer" from "The Faerie Queen."Dan" is also the most Northern part of the Holy Land. I also find "Dander," as in "Getting your dander up." "Dander" is a corruption, it is believed, of "Donder," which means "thunder" in Dutch (consider Santa's reindeer!) and was likely brought to America by the colonists. Dan Donder, maybe?
"Dando" was the hero of early 19th Century popular songs. He was a character who made it his business to leave hotels and restaurants without paying...maybe you could lengthen it somehow.
There might be something here, too: A "dandiprat" was a small coin issued in the reign of Henry VII. It was worth three halfpence, and the word itself came to be applied to a dwarf and page and to a conceited little fellow. Stanyhurst calls Cupid a "dandiprat" in his translation of the Aeneid. So maybe "Dan Pratt," which has some nice internal assonance.

You're right, though, Buzz...you'll know it when you hear it. :)

-Philip
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 09:53AM)
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On 2011-02-14 10:47, Servante wrote:
I've been searching for a good name altogether for my Tater figure. It'll come.
And I have a duck soft puppet who hasn't a name yet...but will, when I know him better. His face makes me laugh.

-Philip
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Philip;

Do what blueshawk1 and I are doing, post the question about a name here
Message: Posted by: CaptKirk (Feb 14, 2011 10:19AM)
First name I thought of was DeLion too (honest)!! That one is cool and as Steve pointed out, has duplicity built in, IMHO:o)
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 14, 2011 10:19AM)
Phillip,

Is your duck a "Quack Addict"?

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 10:26AM)
Philip;

BTW Dan sent Sylvia a Valentineís day card; has she received it?
Message: Posted by: Steve at The Dummy Shoppe (Feb 14, 2011 10:28AM)
You know what they say Capt. Kirk. Sick minds think alike!!!

Steve
http://www.thedummyshoppe.com
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 10:28AM)
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On 2011-02-14 11:19, CaptKirk wrote:
First name I thought of was DeLion too (honest)!! That one is cool and as Steve pointed out, has duplicity built in, IMHO:o)
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Capt;

As I told Steve, I am going to work on the name and practice it with Dan this evening; Iíll let both of you know how it works out.
Message: Posted by: Servante (Feb 14, 2011 10:31AM)
Steve...picture me rolling my eyes and groaning.

Buzz...Sylvia's likely old enough to be Dan's grandmother!

Yeah, I may post a name search for Tater and Da Duck here. I want to give you guys a clear field first, though! :)
Message: Posted by: Servante (Feb 14, 2011 10:32AM)
Oops. Forgot to sign that. Forgive me!

-Philip
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 14, 2011 10:35AM)
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On 2011-02-14 11:32, Servante wrote:
Oops. Forgot to sign that. Forgive me!

-Philip

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Youíre forgiven
Message: Posted by: Matt Thompson (Feb 14, 2011 03:38PM)
What about Dan Dillinger? It has a great ring to it: "Buzz Lawrence and Dan Dillinger". It's easy to say, too, since it avoids those pesky labials...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Pitts (Feb 15, 2011 12:11AM)
I always liked the name Dillinger.

I think you're working on it the way I would Buzz, trying them out, seeing what works with your own name, what sounds right when he says the name. Some great figures have had just one name, but I prefer a first and last name myself. I don't remember exactly why I picked Henry Little for a name, I just liked the sound of it and he looked like his name to me. I had originally planned on calling him "Rowdy Redwood" as sort of a tribute to Max Terhune's "Elmer Sneezewood", but when I finished him, that name didn't suit him.
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 15, 2011 01:48AM)
Matt, David;

If I name Dan, Dillinger, do I have him hold a machine gun during the routine and hook him up with a moll?

Either way, Dillinger is a good name; I will work on practicing with Dan and see how I like it
Message: Posted by: CaptKirk (Feb 19, 2011 10:06AM)
Buzz: have you made a decision on what Dan's last name will be yet??
Message: Posted by: Howie Diddot (Feb 19, 2011 10:53AM)
I am practicing in front of the camera with the names:

Duncan

DeLion

Dillinger

It is a difficult decision, when made canít be changed; I have not made my mind up yet and I am three weeks away from my first performance.

If I have to perform in front of the kids with a last name not chosen, I feel thatís ok for now.

I am also talking to Bob and Tom about a suitable PA system in another thread and this is also on my mind; the equipment is costly and donít want to make a mistake on that either.

Thanks for checking in with me.