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Topic: Is this possible or a joke?
Message: Posted by: Vick (Feb 21, 2011 01:32PM)
http://www.maniacworld.com/impressive-water-trick.html
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Feb 21, 2011 01:54PM)
If you can do that one...you truly can do MAGIC !!!
Thanks for link. Fun to watch!
Message: Posted by: Santiago (Feb 27, 2011 09:41AM)
If we take in count the lot of physics laws that are been broken in that video. I don't think it can be possible, so there must be a good job on the video editing. Anyway, as Godzilla said, it was fun to watch!

Thank you!
Message: Posted by: Akh608 (Mar 11, 2011 04:48PM)
Very good joke, and well made.

...I can only imagine how many houses are much cleaner because of this video.
Message: Posted by: twm (Mar 27, 2011 01:49PM)
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On 2011-02-21 14:32, Vick wrote:
http://www.maniacworld.com/impressive-water-trick.html
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I believe it can be done with NLP (Non Liquid Physics)
Message: Posted by: P.Synenberg (Apr 18, 2011 08:49AM)
When I was young, whenever my father and I would go to a restaurant and get bad service he would leave a cup of water upside down like that with 3 pennies in it. It might have been a jerk move, but there have definitely been times when I wish I had a card myself. I HATE bad service.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 25, 2011 04:01AM)
If you're going to do something like that, you should put in a good tip. Make them want to make the mess.
Message: Posted by: hackmonkey (Jun 19, 2011 12:19AM)
That was cool. I am thinking of a method now. I can think of one that is practical, but not doing the splash at the end. I will work on it. Nice link and effect. Thanks!


Posted: Jun 20, 2011 9:22am
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You could have a another smaller glass inside like an insert with a hole in the bottom (top when its upside down) and when you pull the other cup off the excess water would spill out a bit and drip down the sides?
Message: Posted by: DallasCarter (Jul 11, 2011 11:31PM)
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On 2011-06-19 01:19, hackmonkey wrote:
That was cool. I am thinking of a method now. I can think of one that is practical, but not doing the splash at the end. I will work on it. Nice link and effect. Thanks!

Posted: Jun 20, 2011 9:22am
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You could have a another smaller glass inside like an insert with a hole in the bottom (top when its upside down) and when you pull the other cup off the excess water would spill out a bit and drip down the sides?
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Great clip! It reminds me of a lot of what we see nowadays on TV with the magician doing an actual (explainable) effect and then they add camera trickery at the end to add the 'non-explainable' part. David Blaine, Criss Angel, and Derren Brown do this :)
Message: Posted by: magicman29 (Aug 3, 2011 03:42AM)
Wow! A guy at work actually told me about this this morning. I told him no way could it be done. Not so sure now. It looks real!
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Aug 4, 2011 01:49AM)
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On 2011-04-18 09:49, P.Synenberg wrote:
When I was young, whenever my father and I would go to a restaurant and get bad service he would leave a cup of water upside down like that with 3 pennies in it. It might have been a jerk move, but there have definitely been times when I wish I had a card myself. I HATE bad service.
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Wow, that would certainly be a sign to waiter!
Message: Posted by: Stigmata (Aug 5, 2011 07:11PM)
As much as I had hoped there was some type of unknown element/chemical involved to make this possible I assumed it to be C.G.I. If you watch it in high def slow motion you will know the answer to if it's fake or not.
Message: Posted by: KeirRoyale (Aug 8, 2011 04:20AM)
I agree, no question that it is fake.
Message: Posted by: griffindance (Aug 13, 2011 05:51PM)
A second glass wouldn't work as the light refracting through glass (plastic, etc.) and water would mean the glass will be clearly seen.
Message: Posted by: dman11 (Sep 13, 2011 12:52PM)
Fake; He has a youtube channel with some other things as well. He is student or something in "training"
with special effects.
Message: Posted by: KyoufuNoDaio (Sep 19, 2011 08:18PM)
That would be impressive to see live...
Message: Posted by: hackmonkey (Nov 28, 2011 11:19AM)
Griffindance, depends on the lighting, the material of the insert and how thin it was maybe?

I agree it's CGI but want to try recreate a similar effect.

One idea I had was a disc with a thin skirt of cling film like plastic, the water tension might keep it steady till you tapped it?
Message: Posted by: griffindance (Dec 8, 2011 10:30AM)
You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a0peGqPNYs
Message: Posted by: jasonmcconnie (Dec 14, 2011 11:27PM)
Nice how the cone of water continues to spin and swirl. Great video.
Message: Posted by: Bluesman (Dec 15, 2011 04:16PM)
What would had been better is to put a goldfish in the water.
Message: Posted by: maxpax (Jan 16, 2012 09:58AM)
This looks really good. He knows how to sell the fakery I think. If I were a bit younger I would have started practicing.
Message: Posted by: Bob1Dog (Jan 20, 2012 02:17PM)
I don't think it can be done either.....

So, Vick, what do YOU think?
Message: Posted by: A Show By Joe (Jan 24, 2012 02:05PM)
It can't be done. If you slow it down, you can see the editing. Cool to watch none the less.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Apr 18, 2012 07:14AM)
Great video, but, fake.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (May 13, 2012 05:03PM)
I've just noticed that when he 'touches' the water, he doesn't!
Message: Posted by: thementalist814 (May 18, 2012 03:55PM)
In Quantum Physics, you CAN actually suspend water molecules in a temporary form using a high energy electromagnetic field. This phenomenon has been observed around electromagnetic fields...of course I'm pulling all this out of my butt. Great fake! But it's something to think about and creat a cool effect that is similar.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (May 19, 2012 04:11PM)
I've also just noticed that when he lifts up the glass it is in fact INFRONT of the aleady formed water. I still love this clip, I WANT to believe it.
Message: Posted by: 8a22a (May 24, 2012 09:15AM)
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On 2012-05-19 17:11, jugglestruck wrote:
I've also just noticed that when he lifts up the glass it is in fact INFRONT of the aleady formed water. I still love this clip, I WANT to believe it.
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The glass isn't full to the "bottom" either and the water left behind is the shape of the bottom of the glass.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (May 26, 2012 05:50AM)
I'd still like to know how he got the water to look like it did.
Message: Posted by: thementalist814 (May 26, 2012 05:15PM)
The use of Sony Vega, using the floating water video effect. Clever though.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 6, 2012 04:42AM)
Very intertesting indeed.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Jun 17, 2012 02:14PM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-26 18:15, thementalist814 wrote:
The use of Sony Vega, using the floating water video effect. Clever though.
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Thanks for that!
Message: Posted by: danhughes (Jul 29, 2012 08:40AM)
I'd think you could do it using clear jello (does plain gelatin come in clear?).

The trick would be switching out the water for the jello. (No problem in the video, because it's a cut rather than a continuous shot).
Message: Posted by: Philip Busk (Sep 8, 2012 05:56PM)
How funny. I wonder how many people have actually tried this over and over again.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Sep 25, 2012 04:25PM)
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On 2012-07-29 09:40, danhughes wrote:

The trick would be switching out the water for the jello.
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Exactly.
Message: Posted by: thatmatt (Oct 6, 2012 08:39AM)
Nice video editing skills! You can probably do that in Adobe After Effects in a few days, from what I have seen on YouTube so far...

There is no way to make water remain in that position, not even by using jello. It defies the laws of physics.
Message: Posted by: Miguel Abril (Oct 13, 2012 04:56AM)
Clever use of 3D and object tracker.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Oct 15, 2012 03:21PM)
Let's face it though, it's a nicely put together gag :)
Message: Posted by: madelaine (Jan 31, 2013 10:26PM)
This is old hat and has nothing to do with computer editing skills or "non-liquid physics"...whatever THAT is. The mis-direction is a little primitive on this video's presentation but, essentially, the correct principles have been observed and the correct moves have been made. It is pretty much the same as we did as 5th formers at Roedean College in England in the 1960s. Lots of people found it boring and so it never really caught on...especially when television arrived and dominated.
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Mar 9, 2013 09:45AM)
Just good editing. and bad misdirectuon
Message: Posted by: b0sl0q7 (Mar 9, 2013 10:10AM)
The key to knowing it is fake is when he tells you to keep practicing because it is hard. He is messing with us and hoping we make a mess.
Message: Posted by: TheRaven (Mar 10, 2013 07:30PM)
This works best with a 30 gallon garbage can over a priceless Persian rug.
Message: Posted by: magus (Mar 23, 2013 06:55PM)
No, this actually works.
I got it to work about the 20th try, I put a barricade around the glass with towels, the secret is in the twist.
You have to do it just like you were dropping out a jello mould but faster, and paradoxically, with a smaller motion of the wrist. (smaller amount of turn)

My Mom worked as a waitres many many years ago, and used to get her tip in an upside down glass from time to time.
She could slide the glass off the table and on to her tray spilling a very small amount of water and turn it back over.
Or, she would just pick up the glass spilling water all over the laps of the jokers.
Being a jerk can work both ways.

And no, I didn't really get the water to stand up by itself. Raise your hand if you believed me for just a second.
Message: Posted by: PhilDean (Mar 29, 2013 09:47PM)
Hahaha. What I love most about this video (and I'm not being patronizing here) is that even with a fake video all the best magical minds are clicking over into overdrive to try and figure out a way this can be done live. And no doubt someone will come up with something eventually as you guys always do.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Apr 7, 2013 02:22PM)
It's called slush powder :)
Message: Posted by: bidbid (Aug 9, 2013 08:28AM)
FFFake!
Message: Posted by: MikeBeaudet (Aug 16, 2013 09:59AM)
A fake, a good fake...or we have to revisit the physic's law of nature and another world will emerge !!!
Message: Posted by: hackmonkey (Aug 20, 2013 03:25AM)
I just saw this new shot glass. It could be useful!

Ever spinning shot glass!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6yHSIn4SE
Message: Posted by: Stefan_sny (Nov 25, 2013 02:50AM)
Sorry for the mom who's child saw this video,or uhm...sorry for the child who saw this video.:D
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Mar 19, 2014 11:48AM)
Some people who I have shown this video to have bought it completely - others not so...
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Apr 3, 2014 05:54PM)
It was probably made using magnetic water, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRXt3QSh0c
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Apr 8, 2014 01:28PM)
I doubt it but nice video!
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (Apr 26, 2014 09:21PM)
[quote]On Nov 28, 2011, hackmonkey wrote:
Griffindance, depends on the lighting, the material of the insert and how thin it was maybe?

I agree it's CGI but want to try recreate a similar effect.

One idea I had was a disc with a thin skirt of cling film like plastic, the water tension might keep it steady till you tapped it? [/quote]
I don't think that would work (worth a try though), but maybe with something kind of like slush powder? It would have to not change the water color, but that is not to outlandish to exist.
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (Apr 26, 2014 09:25PM)
[quote]On Apr 7, 2013, jugglestruck wrote:
It's called slush powder :) [/quote]
slush powder frosts up the water, plus he could not have taped it at the end like he did. It's actually called video editing.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (May 7, 2014 03:18PM)
I feel that the verdict of video editing was reached well before the slush powder comment. My slush powder comment was made, slightly tongue in cheek, in reference to the question of how could this actually be done in real life. Apologies if this comes across as pedantic...
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (May 8, 2014 02:02PM)
They are using magnetized water. It is sooo obvious.

[youtube]6Y2cYMBM3e0[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: Intrepid (May 9, 2014 03:56PM)
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again" LoL! Good one ;-)
Message: Posted by: SatanicBurrito (Jul 3, 2014 08:20PM)
Trolololol
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Jul 3, 2014 09:33PM)
Magnetized Water. I am not kidding:

[youtube]8JRXt3QSh0c[/youtube]
Message: Posted by: Pakar Ilusi (Sep 1, 2014 04:01AM)
Jello... :ohyes:
Message: Posted by: Pop Haydn (Sep 1, 2014 11:48AM)
[quote]On Sep 1, 2014, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
Jello... :ohyes: [/quote]

:) Nope.
Message: Posted by: Pakar Ilusi (Sep 1, 2014 10:30PM)
[quote]On Sep 1, 2014, Pop Haydn wrote:
[quote]On Sep 1, 2014, Pakar Ilusi wrote:
Jello... :ohyes: [/quote]

:) Nope. [/quote]

Not the magnetised water... That's been taught in science classes for ages.

I meant how to do the OP original video for real... ;)
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (Dec 14, 2014 01:14PM)
If you had a premade cup of clear gelatin, then poured a identical glass of water, made a switch, then did it you could give a pretty good illusion.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Dec 16, 2014 10:05AM)
I have a sneaky feeling gelatine always makes for a cloudy gel.
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (Dec 16, 2014 10:46AM)
Jello is pretty clear other than the coloring.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Dec 16, 2014 01:26PM)
I've tried making clear gel using agar agar which always comes out cloudy. It would be interesting to try with gelatine but being vegetarian...
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (Dec 16, 2014 03:05PM)
It's all for the name of magic.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Dec 26, 2014 03:09PM)
I'd need more convincing than that :)
Message: Posted by: ZachDavenport (Dec 27, 2014 09:11PM)
What did a horse's hooves ever do for you
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Dec 28, 2014 08:28AM)
I haven't eaten meat for 30 years and as there are so many alternatives, Agar agar being one of them, I would be loath to start using gelatine just for the sake of a magical experiment...
Message: Posted by: Viking Erik (Oct 6, 2016 10:30PM)
I believe gelatin would be cloudy & not clear. Gelatin works great in a white foam cup for me.
Message: Posted by: ptbeast (Oct 14, 2016 04:57AM)
[quote]On Apr 18, 2011, P.Synenberg wrote:
When I was young, whenever my father and I would go to a restaurant and get bad service he would leave a cup of water upside down like that with 3 pennies in it. It might have been a jerk move, but there have definitely been times when I wish I had a card myself. I HATE bad service. [/quote]

I saw someone do this once in a restaurant. The turned two glasses over with a few coins in each. The manager approached the table to ask them to leave. The waitress said "oh, I don't mind cleaning it up!" and proceeded to lift up the cups with the customers still sitting at the table, totally soaking them. The got exactly what they deserved. It was funnier than hell.
Message: Posted by: Woodini (May 6, 2017 03:38PM)
I believe this is done with negative water. The trick is to place a positive magnet under the table to hold the water in place.
Message: Posted by: Some_Magical_Idiot (Jul 3, 2017 02:13PM)
So this begs the question is this considered magic?