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Topic: My Hypnosis Stage Show online
Message: Posted by: JonChase (Feb 21, 2011 06:37PM)
My new site will be live hopefully within the net 24 hours and on it will be my full stage show. Well, slightly edited for video, it's amazing how much time is taken up just moving people about etc.

All we seem to get on the Interweb, especially fro the street guys, is bit and pieces, it's as if there is something to hide.

When it goes live your comments will be interesting.
Message: Posted by: mindpunisher (Feb 21, 2011 06:47PM)
I don't know I would hide some of the bits they have up...

I think to watch a whole show is a big ask these days on the web most just want a rapid hit then move on.
Message: Posted by: Scott M (Feb 21, 2011 08:13PM)
Jon,

After reading your book 3 times, I would love to see your full show.

-Scott M
Message: Posted by: Mindpro (Feb 21, 2011 08:29PM)
One of the problems with watching a stage hypnosis show is it doesn't transfer well to video. I have seen live performances many times (in person) that were fun, exciting and hilarious, yet watching the same show on video you do not get the same experience or true essence. Keep this in mind as you view any performance DVD.

This is any stage hypnosis show in general and not directed in any way to Mr. Chase or anyone else specifically.
Message: Posted by: TonyB2009 (Feb 22, 2011 08:03AM)
Looking forward to seeing it. It will be good to see the full thing (though maybe not in one sitting!) rather than cherry-picked highlights. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Shrubsole (Feb 22, 2011 08:08AM)
Yes I am looking forward to seeing this as well.
Message: Posted by: bobser (Feb 22, 2011 09:05AM)
I have to say I'd disagree. Maybe it's just me but I believe that we can find macro in the micro. That is that sometimes the tiniest of things possess something truly magical. I like to call them: 'Ahaa moments'.
But then again that Chase fella might be rubbish. I'm told he doesn't even wear a shiny waistcoat. That's a recipe for failure in my book!
Message: Posted by: mindpunisher (Feb 22, 2011 09:17AM)
I think though Bobser you and probably most on here have a different point of view than a normal punter. Magic is in the eye of the beholder.

Jon doesn't earn his living from doing shows anymore so I guess its no skin off his nose. Most people put clips up for marketing purposes to show everything would defeat the purpose.

Although he does make money from teaching stage hypnosis which means his marketing purposes are different.
Message: Posted by: Chris Meece (Feb 22, 2011 09:37AM)
I am looking forward to seeing your full stage show. It will be very educational to see everything and not just the highlights. After watching you, Anthony, Derren Brown, and Louis Theroux so much this Yank will start using words like brilliant, ride on lifts, and start watching that weird sport you call football that uses a round ball.
Message: Posted by: Shrubsole (Feb 22, 2011 02:25PM)
Why not! Most of our youth talk like black American gangsters so nice to have a culture swap every now and then. :lol:

Just don't learn English from Dick van Dike!!! (Gord blimey Mary Poppins!)

Soon we'll have you driving on the correct side of the road!
Message: Posted by: TonyB2009 (Feb 22, 2011 06:56PM)
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On 2011-02-22 10:05, bobser wrote:
But then again that Chase fella might be rubbish. I'm told he doesn't even wear a shiny waistcoat. That's a recipe for failure in my book!
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Yeah! And he can't even click his fingers. But neither can I, so I can't throw stones.
Message: Posted by: JonChase (Feb 22, 2011 07:22PM)
Bobser I used to wear shiny waistcoats before anyone else did - lol. Have a look at this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlPs1_S0rk

Tony you're right, I do however make the, movements and click me tongue. Who cares I live dangerously!
Message: Posted by: Shrubsole (Feb 22, 2011 07:27PM)
You need my wonderful new instructional DVD set:

"How to click your fingers and annoy people"
And
"Stone Throwing for non-glasshouse dwellers"

Only 150 with free "Shiny Waistcoat Monthly" Vol 43-58 bonus gift.
Message: Posted by: RandyM (Feb 23, 2011 04:24PM)
Mr. Chase,

Just watched the first act and loved it. I was really laughing when you had them believing the terrible smell. That was Hilarious. I liked the the Heavy /Light hand you did. I assume you did that to gauge who would be the best candidates. I believe the second act you lost a few and had them sit down. What caused that to happen? Was it that they were just playing along in the beginning? Or it's just something that happens.

Thanks again for posting the show, I'm gonna watched the rest this evening. I really enjoy it.

RandyM
Message: Posted by: mindpunisher (Feb 23, 2011 05:08PM)
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On 2011-02-22 20:22, JonChase wrote:
Bobser I used to wear shiny waistcoats before anyone else did - lol. Have a look at this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlPs1_S0rk

Tony you're right, I do however make the, movements and click me tongue. Who cares I live dangerously!
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It's funny how the waistcoat became the Hypnotists uniform?
Message: Posted by: JonChase (Feb 23, 2011 07:09PM)
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On 2011-02-23 17:24, RandyM wrote:
Mr. Chase,

Just watched the first act and loved it. I was really laughing when you had them believing the terrible smell. That was Hilarious. I liked the the Heavy /Light hand you did. I assume you did that to gauge who would be the best candidates. I believe the second act you lost a few and had them sit down. What caused that to happen? Was it that they were just playing along in the beginning? Or it's just something that happens.

Thanks again for posting the show, I'm gonna watched the rest this evening. I really enjoy it.

RandyM
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No Randy. One or two didn't go but I am as you saw unable now to run around along a long line so I go for two things, the ones with the Best imaginations and a number around four to six people. Then they all within reach.

The thing is since I got worse physically and started to severely whittle them down it also brings in the audiences focus and makes the show and the comedy tighter.

For those who have missed the announcement the show is on http://jonathanchase.com and follow the link under the Academy to the Cinema.
Message: Posted by: RandyM (Feb 23, 2011 07:29PM)
Well I still think it was a fantastic show and I really enjoyed it. Laughed many times watching. The couple that were excused appeared induced for a period then just kinda broke. But it was nice learning experience for me. I"m still gathering my courage and confidence before making my attempt. As with my performing close up magic and some mentalism over the years I practice till I can do it with my eyes closed, and then add in my patter so it becomes quite fluid and I don't have to really think about what I"m doing. So I'm trying to take the same approach with this and prepare myself.

May I ask sir, was the edited in the beginning or did the inductions really happen that quickly. Once again I thank you for posting, I really enjoyed the show and will not doubt watch it several more times.


RandyM
Message: Posted by: JonChase (Feb 23, 2011 07:43PM)
Thanks again Randy. The inductions are more or less real time. Actually I fell off my *** stool half way through and it took a few moments to get back up.

The lady who was okay in the smells was rejected because she wan't a verbaliser and her friend wasn't physical enough. The rest just didn't have good enough imaginations and were sent off because I think there is nothing worse than people on stage who look and sound rubbish. You only focus on the good ones anyway.

I think our positions are very different. Whilst I am a half decent but very amateur Mentalist. *I* write my routines down and then practice what and how I will deliver my suggestions and control the show until I can do it in my sleep as well as in theirs. By the way, don't think they came up with everything they do and say, *I* am the one who knows what makes a good funny show. You don't think I'd let them write it do you?

Next time you watch focus on Me not them.
Message: Posted by: RandyM (Feb 23, 2011 08:00PM)
That's exactly what I intend to this evening is watch "YOU" exclusively. I'm certain I will gains tons of knowledge doing that.
Message: Posted by: tiriri (Feb 24, 2011 10:16AM)
Hi John,

Your videos and shows are great, but I don't think it is a good idea to upload a whole show on the internet because of marketing reasons. I always like to leave something as a surprise for when they hire you. I think that seeing the whole show might reduce the interest of potential clients or spectators that otherwise might have gone to the show or hired you.

I have done just one promotional video for the internet and some clips of actual shows, but I tried to do it as a summary and explanation of hypnosis and a whole show, but I left some things for the show itself. I did the same with mentalism uploading just a couple of good effects so people can see what I do but leaving most of the effects for the show.

Just my thoughts,

Regards from the middle of the world,


Giovanni.
Message: Posted by: JonChase (Feb 24, 2011 11:25AM)
Hey Giovani.

Your opinion is interesting. I've had several sales of the dvd even though the full thing is on line and have sold several trainings and learn stage hypnosis dvds on the strength of it already So while I can see your point my experience tells me that for me at least it is a very good move.
Message: Posted by: mindpunisher (Feb 24, 2011 12:00PM)
The difference really is - if you are performing or selling the skills to perform. Since most now make money from teaching stage hypnosis then they don't really care.

What those that buy trainings don't realise that the very marketing of stage hypnosis this way reduces the value of what they are buying.

Stage hypnosis is no longer special and that is reflected in the number of bookings being made and the low fees.

The truth is Jon doesn't care about the market for shows because he no longer akes his money there. In the old days when you could earn 4 or 5 k for two our show and a hypnotist was a rare person hardly anyone was teaching because the "secrets" were more valuable.

To me personally its a form of prostitution. When you start to see courses being marketed like this it is a sure sign that its time to either join in and sell courses or get out of the business.
Message: Posted by: JonChase (Feb 24, 2011 12:23PM)
Hey MP I am not using it to market. I put it up there because I want loads of people to see it cause it's good. You have no idea what my motives are. They certainly are not to discourage people going to see shows, just had a call off a guy asking if they would get Exactly this show for his event...

I just got fed up of people only putting bits up. You know you can download loads of stuff off the internet now, in fact this show has been available since I put it on the dvd on Bitstrem, six weeks form it going on the shelves to 4mill download points, so many people already have it. Paul Mckenna did six weeks on the box and filled every house he did for 5 year, don't tell me people get put off by seeing a *** good show. I think showing some hypnosis done n terrible pub style venues with bad sound, lighting and bloody awful production is what puts people off.
Message: Posted by: mindpunisher (Feb 24, 2011 12:53PM)
Ok Jon I believe you. No point in arguing.

I didn't mean people got put off by seeing a good show. I know you don't agree with me but the more in the market the less value. The MORE people see the less special it becomes. the MORE people doing it the less perception of value etc. But that's my opinion. I might be talking through my hole.

But I guess we just see things differently.

Whatever
Message: Posted by: hypnokid (Feb 26, 2011 03:32AM)
MP, are you just lamenting the fact that many more people than just you currently know 'the secret'?

You seem to be saying that your fees and the interest in your shows have dropped off.

Consequently you blame hypnosis trainers instead of your own marketing.

Excellent.

HK