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Topic: David Stone Tool
Message: Posted by: Douglasnordenbelt (Apr 10, 2011 04:12AM)
Anyone who has heard anything about this? David Stone released this for 2 days ago

Here are just 13 extra routines you can do with the tool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=927pxxeQCd8

Here you can see all the routines included:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheToolmagic

I think it looks really good!
Message: Posted by: Maynard (Apr 10, 2011 04:19AM)
This looks amazing!
Message: Posted by: Douglasnordenbelt (Apr 10, 2011 06:23AM)
"Included:
- DVD + 2 gimmicks (one for training, the other for the performance)

• Easy to do !!!
• All the routines are completely different
• Immediately repeatable, The RESET is ultra fast
• No palming and no complicated techniques
• The CARD CASES are EXAMINABLE and the GIMMICKS made for intensive use

Imagine this...
- Visually change the color of the cards’ back witout any sleight
- Instantly and visually restore a signed and torn card
- Magically produce your credit card or your business card
- Ask your spectators to shuffle the cards and instantly produce the 4 aces
- Perform the “Substitution trunk” in close-up situation with cards
- Show the most amazing version of the “Stabbed card” routine ever

11 professional routines, tested on real audience that made David Stone’s réputation in close-up !

- Make a signed card reappear in the cardcase without any suspect move
- Visually change a coin into a banknote
- Make visually turn over all the cards except the choosen one
- Let a spectator touch 4 cards at random that will indicate her birth year
- Tear the top of a cardcase and visually restore it
- Make some cards vanish from your hands whithout any sleight"

From http://stone.magiczoom.com/

Looks amazing this!
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Apr 10, 2011 06:29AM)
Wow ! looooooooool
Message: Posted by: Rpascual (Apr 10, 2011 08:41AM)
Can't this just be accomplished with a regular sh*m in the card case?
Message: Posted by: Stucky (Apr 10, 2011 07:51PM)
This has been out for a while. Saw it at IBM last year. Was it his or has something crossed over?
Message: Posted by: Steven Leung (Apr 10, 2011 08:38PM)
I just worry about the gimmick can apply to new Bicycle card case, if you know what I am saying...
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (Apr 11, 2011 08:38PM)
OK, I'm stumped. I think I have the basic idea, but the fine points are fine indeed. And beautiful. Looks like another big winner for Msr. Stone.
Message: Posted by: puffinmonkey (Apr 12, 2011 02:49PM)
When is this going to be released in the stateS?

-Alex
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 15, 2011 09:21AM)
I have to say that the gimmick is very nice and I think of course well made. But if you own "3D Advertising by Henry Evans" you know that they are exactly the same. Just the effects are different.

Hope it helps,

Kevin
Message: Posted by: RyanAdams (Apr 15, 2011 03:10PM)
I like the look of this, however I'd still recommend David Stone's DVD series.
Then again you can guarantee that anything by David is going to be very good indeed.
At the end of the day, I would not use TOOL, simply for practicality issues.
I would advise to have a look at his other stuff first.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: RyanAdams (Apr 15, 2011 03:12PM)
I like the look of this, however I'd still recommend David Stone's DVD series.
Then again you can guarantee that anything by David is going to be very good indeed.
At the end of the day, I would not use TOOL, simply for practicality issues.
I would advise to have a look at his other stuff first.

Ryan
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Apr 15, 2011 09:04PM)
I just received this and it is excellent. All the tricks are easy but a bit of handling will certainly help make them flow.
The gimmick is very well made and you get two. You get two complete card boxes so the gimmicks will match.
I think this is the best way to sell magic. One gimmick and many tricks involving that gimmick.
Instructions are clear and concise with explanations being done with no talking. Demos are all on the web.
My favorite trick is the credit card appearance into card into box. Very happy with this purchase.
James
Message: Posted by: magiclee (Apr 15, 2011 09:34PM)
How much is this in US Dollars?

magiclee
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Apr 16, 2011 04:06AM)
http://www.xe.com/ucc/

Isn't the internet amazing?
James


[quote]
On 2011-04-15 22:34, magiclee wrote:
How much is this in US Dollars?

magiclee
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Apr 16, 2011 04:17AM)
This is a copy of Solo from JB Magic.

I hope Dave asked for le permission de JB first!
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 16, 2011 07:30AM)
Actually, it seem more similar to http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/resurrection-trick-p-11142.html
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Apr 16, 2011 07:49AM)
This looks very obvious. Why would you present this gimmick in this way?
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Apr 16, 2011 09:14AM)
Andi,
This is nothing like Solo. No cards have holes in them, no cards are sandwiched to find them. Quit drinking dude.

I hope you understand that this gimmick goes way back. Steve Brook did some work with his Freefall and he said it is REALLY old.
These gimmicks are extremely well made, you get lots of varied handlings.
Like I said, I really like it. If you think it's obvious, it is only because you are familiar with the principle. I don't do magic for magicians.
James


[quote]
On 2011-04-16 05:17, Andi Peters wrote:
This is a copy of Solo from JB Magic.

I hope Dave asked for le permission de JB first!
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Markymark (Apr 16, 2011 10:05AM)
There is a much less obvious trick on the dvd where 2 spectators shuffle the deck and the magician cuts to the 4 aces but I love the quick trick [which does look obvious to magicians] where a business card is produced.Good for kids or
if someone asks for a business card.Often they don't want those long mentalism
things done with a business card.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 16, 2011 10:48AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-16 08:30, Paul Rathbun wrote:
Actually, it seem more similar to http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/resurrection-trick-p-11142.html
[/quote]
Nope! As I said before - it's the same gimmick as "3D Advertising by Henry Evans". The effects are different but the principal is the same.
See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv4noRDKbP8

On the DVD you find many routines and some bonus ideas. I recommend buying it.

- Kevin
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 16, 2011 11:47AM)
Actually I think we are both right.
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Apr 16, 2011 01:18PM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-16 10:14, Xiqual wrote:
Andi,
This is nothing like Solo. No cards have holes in them, no cards are sandwiched to find them. Quit drinking dude.

I hope you understand that this gimmick goes way back. Steve Brook did some work with his Freefall and he said it is REALLY old.
These gimmicks are extremely well made, you get lots of varied handlings.
Like I said, I really like it. If you think it's obvious, it is only because you are familiar with the principle. I don't do magic for magicians.
James


[quote]
On 2011-04-16 05:17, Andi Peters wrote:
This is a copy of Solo from JB Magic.

I hope Dave asked for le permission de JB first!
[/quote]
[/quote]
The bit where the card appears in the card case in solo uses the exact same method as David's new release.

I'm therefore as sober as a judge.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 16, 2011 01:53PM)
If I'm not mistaken there were no credits on the DVD.

- Kevin
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 18, 2011 04:27PM)
Is this available in the U.S.?
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (Apr 18, 2011 04:51PM)
Yes, the gimmick seems to be exactly the same as in Solo by JB Magic and also very similar to Conspiracy...
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Apr 18, 2011 11:13PM)
Hey, maybe that means that these gimmicks are old and in widespread use?
You think?

It's funny how a one trick DVD will get tons of good press but when a DVD packed with solid magic all using the same gimmick people pan it.
If he released the signed torn and restored on a DVD by itself people would be freaking out.

Yes, a signed by the spectator, torn and VISUALLY restored card. They can keep the card.
James




[quote]
On 2011-04-18 17:51, madcats9 wrote:
Yes, the gimmick seems to be exactly the same as in Solo by JB Magic and also very similar to Conspiracy...
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (Apr 20, 2011 06:03AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-19 00:13, Xiqual wrote:
Hey, maybe that means that these gimmicks are old and in widespread use?
You think?

It's funny how a one trick DVD will get tons of good press but when a DVD packed with solid magic all using the same gimmick people pan it.
If he released the signed torn and restored on a DVD by itself people would be freaking out.

Yes, a signed by the spectator, torn and VISUALLY restored card. They can keep the card.
James
[/quote]

That is truly a good point!
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 22, 2011 08:52AM)
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Apr 22, 2011 09:04AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title
[/quote]
You handle David Stone's Tool wonderfully.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Apr 22, 2011 09:31AM)
Andi,
You are also quite a Tool. In fact Andi Peters "Such a Tool" would be a good slogan for your business card ole chappie.
James


[quote]
On 2011-04-22 10:04, Andi Peters wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title
[/quote]
You handle David Stone's Tool wonderfully.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Apr 22, 2011 09:50AM)
That's not a very nice thing to say :-(

You're just picking on me because I don't have as many posts as you.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 22, 2011 11:27AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 10:04, Andi Peters wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title
[/quote]
You handle David Stone's Tool wonderfully.
[/quote]

Thank you :]
Message: Posted by: Douglasnordenbelt (Apr 25, 2011 03:55PM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title
[/quote]

Do you get the gimmicks in blue?

When I got my Tool both the gimmicks where in red..
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 25, 2011 06:40PM)
I'd like to buy this, but I don't like buying things from overseas. If this were available in the U.S. I would probably pick one up.

P.S. If anyone knows of a U.S. dealer that has this please let me know. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 28, 2011 10:56AM)
I wrote a little review about it, I hope my english isn't too bad. :)

Tool is more than just a gimmick - it allows you to perform many different routines. The price of the trick is 29,99€ (about 45 US Dollar and about 25 GBP).

What you get is a DVD and two red gimmicks. The DVD is in French and English and teaches you 11 effective routines and some bonus ideas. When I first saw the trailer it reminded me of "3D Advertising by Henry Evans". When I received "Tool" I saw that I was right, the gimmicks are the same. But the idea of using the gimmick in this way is new and ingenious!

You can perform this trick completly surrounded and in extreme close up situations. Everything is as clean as in the video, you don't have to hide something or take something away. The reset takes just a second so it's perfect for table hopping.

As I mentioned before, there are 11 professional routines on the DVD and they are all second to none. If you think outside the box you can perform even more routines using TOOL. Here are a few of my ideas using it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=player_embedded

In my opinion this is one of the best close up tricks you can buy for so less money! I highly recommend it.
Message: Posted by: Douglasnordenbelt (Apr 28, 2011 11:54AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-28 11:56, Black wrote:
I wrote a little review about it, I hope my english isn't too bad. :)

Tool is more than just a gimmick - it allows you to perform many different routines. The price of the trick is 29,99€ (about 45 US Dollar and about 25 GBP).

What you get is a DVD and two red gimmicks. The DVD is in French and English and teaches you 11 effective routines and some bonus ideas. When I first saw the trailer it reminded me of "3D Advertising by Henry Evans". When I received "Tool" I saw that I was right, the gimmicks are the same. But the idea of using the gimmick in this way is new and ingenious!

You can perform this trick completly surrounded and in extreme close up situations. Everything is as clean as in the video, you don't have to hide something or take something away. The reset takes just a second so it's perfect for table hopping.

As I mentioned before, there are 11 professional routines on the DVD and they are all second to none. If you think outside the box you can perform even more routines using TOOL. Here are a few of my ideas using it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=player_embedded

In my opinion this is one of the best close up tricks you can buy for so less money! I highly recommend it.
[/quote]

You say in the review that you get 2 red gimmicks?
On the video you use a blue gimmick?
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 28, 2011 12:59PM)
Is this the same thing as Tool? http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/resurrection-trick-p-11142.html
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 28, 2011 02:58PM)
Hey Douglas,
I took one gimmick and rebuilt it to a blue one. So I have a red and a blue one.
You can do this very easily too. :)
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Apr 28, 2011 08:01PM)
Looks like it is. This gimmick has been around for ages. Tool gives you two complete gimmick sets and a DVD with 14 tricks that are all very different.
I am very happy with this purchase.
James

[quote]
On 2011-04-28 13:59, Paul Rathbun wrote:
Is this the same thing as Tool? http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/resurrection-trick-p-11142.html
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Magicjg (May 9, 2011 01:48PM)
Had the pleasure of hanging out with David the past 2 weeks. We worked on a few of my tool ideas. I have to say, this is amazing. Easily you can change your current routines using this device. Also soon they will be selling the tool gimmick with both a red and blue back. Check out a few ideas below.

http://youtu.be/5KBiJmY4yI0

http://youtu.be/BC_Mj0Awe9Y

http://youtu.be/31EG1mIop1g

http://youtu.be/hL7NQxannvQ
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (May 13, 2011 03:34PM)
Looks good. I am finally getting this.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (May 24, 2011 12:03PM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-18 17:27, Paul Rathbun wrote:
Is this available in the U.S.?
[/quote]

It's now available from [url=http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2503]Penguin Magic[/url] albeit it will not be available for shipping until 05/30 @ $34.95.

[quote]
On 2011-04-22 10:04, Andi Peters wrote:

You handle David Stone's Tool wonderfully.
[/quote]

Now [i][b]that[/b][/i] just doesn’t sound right! :lol:
Message: Posted by: Don Dasher (May 24, 2011 02:13PM)
I received a somewhat suggestive email from [url=http://www.emagicsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=196]emagicsupply.com[/url] today asking if I had seen David Stone's Tool yet. I'm not sure if they did it on purpose but I laughed so hard my topit split.


DD
Message: Posted by: Ray Chelt (May 24, 2011 02:52PM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-28 11:56, Black wrote:
I wrote a little review about it, I hope my english isn't too bad. :)

Tool is more than just a gimmick - it allows you to perform many different routines. The price of the trick is 29,99€ (about 45 US Dollar and about 25 GBP).

What you get is a DVD and two red gimmicks. The DVD is in French and English and teaches you 11 effective routines and some bonus ideas. When I first saw the trailer it reminded me of "3D Advertising by Henry Evans". When I received "Tool" I saw that I was right, the gimmicks are the same. But the idea of using the gimmick in this way is new and ingenious!

You can perform this trick completly surrounded and in extreme close up situations. Everything is as clean as in the video, you don't have to hide something or take something away. The reset takes just a second so it's perfect for table hopping.

As I mentioned before, there are 11 professional routines on the DVD and they are all second to none. If you think outside the box you can perform even more routines using TOOL. Here are a few of my ideas using it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=player_embedded

In my opinion this is one of the best close up tricks you can buy for so less money! I highly recommend it.
[/quote]

Nice...like the elastic bad trick--don't know why but it makes the effect harder to deconstruct.

Better demo than on the Penguin site where , if I am not mistaken, you get a nice flash of the gimmick on the last trick.

Which brings me to the question, does the gimmick work perfectly every time ?
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 24, 2011 03:23PM)
In in a quiet home is there "talking", a click of the gimmicks?
Message: Posted by: acortest (May 24, 2011 03:35PM)
This looks like a real 'worker' if you ask me. I agree with someone earlier who said this would probably not fool any magicians, but I think it will blow the minds of laypersons (laypeople?)
Message: Posted by: jackofspades11 (May 24, 2011 06:35PM)
The gimmick and routines possible with this effect look awesome! I will be adding this trick to my wish list!
Message: Posted by: gaffed (May 24, 2011 07:01PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-24 15:13, Don Dasher wrote:
I received a somewhat suggestive email from [url=http://www.emagicsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=196]emagicsupply.com[/url] today asking if I had seen David Stone's Tool yet.


[/quote]

Holy crap, don’t tell me David lost his tool!

All in all, I think I’ll place this on the back burner and give it some further thought. Looks like a rather nice effect (utility tool?), but it’s just one of those things that gives me pause for some reason and something hard to explain. There are other things I’m looking into, and more often than not they end up never being used. Let’s face it, most all demo’s look good and then……..? I’m in no way trying to imply that it’s not good, but I’ve learned to go with my first instinct and try to be a tad more circumspect before I buy anything now. Usually, though not always, my first instincts are serving me rather well as of late. Then again, living on a pension certainly makes one more cautious, and so much the better. ;)
Message: Posted by: JCheng (May 24, 2011 11:56PM)
I just ordered from Penguin Magic!
Message: Posted by: CardMaker (May 25, 2011 12:33AM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-24 16:23, Powermagic wrote:
In in a quiet home is there "talking", a click of the gimmicks?
[/quote]

I even heard this in some demos. A softened magnetic cling?
Message: Posted by: iluzjonista (May 25, 2011 04:38AM)
Can you really give the box for examination after the trick?
Message: Posted by: unclemagicmike (May 25, 2011 06:29AM)
I would also like to Know if the Card Case can be handed out for a look see!!
Message: Posted by: Ray Chelt (May 25, 2011 01:24PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-25 07:29, unclemagicmike wrote:
I would also like to Know if the Card Case can be handed out for a look see!!
[/quote]

I'd imagine that isn't possible.

Whats worrying though is I don't think you should be "noticing" the card case at all. Maybe that's just us magicians :)

It should a quick cover up with the card case and then a flash to show there's nothing stuck to it and then concentrate on whats changed.

that's why in my book the video above which has an elastic band appear around the deck is the strongest piece because you are not looking to see where something may have gone so the heat is off the case.

If something disappears using the case then I think you are in dodgy territory as heat will then focus on it
Message: Posted by: Slide (May 25, 2011 03:43PM)
Nice effect, but (having never seen the Tool) I can think of a couple of ways of how I could just build this myself. The current trick examples seem weak to me but obviously aimed to just show the possibilities rather than stand alone tricks. a rejiggered Dark Card would probably work.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (May 25, 2011 04:59PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-24 15:52, Ray Chelt wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-04-28 11:56, Black wrote:
I wrote a little review about it, I hope my english isn't too bad. :)

Tool is more than just a gimmick - it allows you to perform many different routines. The price of the trick is 29,99€ (about 45 US Dollar and about 25 GBP).

What you get is a DVD and two red gimmicks. The DVD is in French and English and teaches you 11 effective routines and some bonus ideas. When I first saw the trailer it reminded me of "3D Advertising by Henry Evans". When I received "Tool" I saw that I was right, the gimmicks are the same. But the idea of using the gimmick in this way is new and ingenious!

You can perform this trick completly surrounded and in extreme close up situations. Everything is as clean as in the video, you don't have to hide something or take something away. The reset takes just a second so it's perfect for table hopping.

As I mentioned before, there are 11 professional routines on the DVD and they are all second to none. If you think outside the box you can perform even more routines using TOOL. Here are a few of my ideas using it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=player_embedded

In my opinion this is one of the best close up tricks you can buy for so less money! I highly recommend it.
[/quote]

Nice...like the elastic bad trick--don't know why but it makes the effect harder to deconstruct.

Better demo than on the Penguin site where , if I am not mistaken, you get a nice flash of the gimmick on the last trick.

Which brings me to the question, does the gimmick work perfectly every time ?
[/quote]

Hi,
thank you for the compliment! :)
The gimmick does work perfectly all the time! I have performed this to a lot of laymans and it definitely blows their mind! There are actually a few routines where you can hand out the box after. You just have to accomplish a very easy move. ;-)

As I said before - this is an ingenious principle that allows you to perform tons of visual and astonishing magic!
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 27, 2011 07:56PM)
I do not know. I would love to beleive they do not think the case is involved but if there is any talking or they see it more than once, it is just logical to consider the case.
I know my sister in law from Thailand would try to grab the box. I just do not see the logic in using the case as cover . That is, I like the visuals but not sure if one were to see this more than once they just not suspect the obvious.
Love to hear more from those who have it and use it.

To the creator. if you could make the case pass over the cards not tap them, it would be less suspect.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (May 28, 2011 03:10AM)
@Powermagic:
I first thought the same! But when I performed this live for a few people, I saw that they don't want to check out the box. In my opinion it's very organic to use the box. You show the box before, they remember how it looks - you show the box after and they can't see a difference, so the box is normal for them. If you take a look at my video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=relmfu )you will expect that is has to do something with the box, because I use the box for EVERY effect. If I perform other card tricks and then only one routine using TOOL, it's not that suspicious that the box has something to do with the effect.

I hope you understand how I mean it :)

PS: There is only a "click"-sound if you tap the box on the cards. But I prefer to rub, in my opinion it looks more magical and less obvious!
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (May 28, 2011 08:56AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-16 10:14, Xiqual wrote:
Andi,
This is nothing like Solo. No cards have holes in them, no cards are sandwiched to find them. Quit drinking dude.

I hope you understand that this gimmick goes way back. Steve Brook did some work with his Freefall and he said it is REALLY old.
These gimmicks are extremely well made, you get lots of varied handlings.
Like I said, I really like it. If you think it's obvious, it is only because you are familiar with the principle. I don't do magic for magicians.
James
[/quote]

Totally agree. Even the gimmick might share the same principle, but don't forget about the DVD. There are routines and handling that will enrich us.

If only I could afford this, I'd have bought this :)
Message: Posted by: movemonkey (May 28, 2011 01:00PM)
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (May 28, 2011 01:42PM)
[quote]
Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
[/quote]

..take it to the streets and find out the opposite!
Message: Posted by: gaffed (May 28, 2011 05:51PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-28 14:42, Black wrote:
[quote]
Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
[/quote]

..take it to the streets and find out the opposite!
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
[/quote]



I'd have to agree with Black on this. Although I don't have it and have no intentions on getting it that’s a very unfair statement. Your friends saw a [b]DEMO[/b] where a card case is [b][i]repeatedly[/i][/b] used to show the different effects that this is capable of doing, and [b][i]obviously[/i][/b] not how it is intended to be used. I’m very confident that if I had done the same as you did for a dozen lay people they all would have come to the very same conclusion. I mean really…………stop and think how [i]ridiculous[/i] that was!! :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: Lou Cirulli (May 28, 2011 05:59PM)
Agree 100%! You let a layman view the demo of course they're gonna think its the card case! Do you do the same effect over and over again for the same spectator? I think not!
Message: Posted by: egoli (May 28, 2011 06:30PM)
This looks exactly like the trick I bought at the IBM convention in San Diego last year. The dealer was also French but I don't remember if it was David Stone. Unfortunately it didn't come with a DVD. The basic trick (torn and restored playing card) is good for laymen and I do it on a regular basis. Just looking at the demo has given me lots of new ideas.

Ed
Message: Posted by: gaffed (May 28, 2011 06:43PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-28 19:30, egoli wrote:
This looks exactly like the trick I bought at the IBM convention in San Diego last year. The dealer was also French but I don't remember if it was David Stone. Unfortunately it didn't come with a DVD. The basic trick (torn and restored playing card) is good for laymen and I do it on a regular basis. Just looking at the demo has given me lots of new ideas.

Ed
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Just make sure you don't go around showing the demo to all your friends [i]before[/i] you do it! ;)
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (May 28, 2011 11:51PM)
Showing laymen magic videos is ALWAYS a bad idea. Magic demos are there to give magicians a general sense of the trick not to entertain or fool laymen.

I see a problem with this gimmick, though. To me, it should work in the exact opposite way, so you can hand out the card case at the end. Because such attention is brought to the card case, people might want to take a look at it. You place an object on the deck and then use the card case to cover it. There's gonna be a little heat on the card case.

If the gimmick worked the opposite way, it could be examined.
Message: Posted by: egoli (May 29, 2011 12:26AM)
Spectators don't seem to want to examine the box. The attention is all on the top of the deck of cards and the change is very visual. I don't call attention to the box at all. It just goes off to the side right away and everyone is trying to get over the instant change.

Ed
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (May 29, 2011 01:52AM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-29 00:51, Cameron Francis wrote:
I see a problem with this gimmick, though. To me, it should work in the exact opposite way, so you can hand out the card case at the end. Because such attention is brought to the card case, people might want to take a look at it. You place an object on the deck and then use the card case to cover it. There's gonna be a little heat on the card case.[/quote]

That's why I always found the approach of Conspiracy much more convincing - the use of the card box is better justified ('sealing' something under the wrapper of the card box) and you end up clean. But to each his own...
Message: Posted by: JCheng (May 29, 2011 03:29AM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
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... Face palm*
Message: Posted by: kjmking2002 (May 29, 2011 11:24AM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 10:04, Andi Peters wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title
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You handle David Stone's Tool wonderfully.
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I am trying to buy this trick or Solo by Mark Mason. Which one is better?
Isn't the card-to-card box part in Solo uses the same gimmick for this Tool by David Stone?
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (May 29, 2011 12:00PM)
I would recommend you buying Tool. You'll get a DVD that shows you great routines and you'll get two gimmicks.
Message: Posted by: kjmking2002 (May 29, 2011 01:34PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-29 13:00, Black wrote:
I would recommend you buying Tool. You'll get a DVD that shows you great routines and you'll get two gimmicks.
[/quote]

But doesn't Tool use the same (or similar) gimmick as in the Solo when Mark does transport of the card to the card box part? I thought the vanishing effect of the Solo is better than the one by Tool.
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (May 31, 2011 10:43AM)
Just received Tool. I think this will work great for Richard Sanders' "Skinny Kreskin" but much more visual.
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (May 31, 2011 11:00AM)
I recommend Tool if you wan't to have two gimmicks, but otherwise buy Solo as this is a great effect. I guess that the Tool DVD explains the routines from the trailer - therefore no explanation is needed when you know how the gimmick works. Watching the trailer I don't think the routines are good enough to spend money on.
Message: Posted by: kjmking2002 (May 31, 2011 03:14PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-31 12:00, madcats9 wrote:
I recommend Tool if you wan't to have two gimmicks, but otherwise buy Solo as this is a great effect. I guess that the Tool DVD explains the routines from the trailer - therefore no explanation is needed when you know how the gimmick works. Watching the trailer I don't think the routines are good enough to spend money on.
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Doesn't Solo use the similar gimmick as the Tool?

I think the part where Mark takes the card out of the box uses the same way when David brings out the card from the cardbox in one of his routines in the trailer.

Isn't it?
Message: Posted by: iceblade (May 31, 2011 04:16PM)
David Stone is one of my top favorite magicians and this is definitely the worst thing he has come up with. It is so transparent Ι'm very surprised someone would go and actually buy it. Doesn't look good either (use of the box completely unjustified). "The most powerful gimmick since the TT"? Please! I'd have to agree with movemonkey.
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (May 31, 2011 04:59PM)
My wife is the typical magician's wife that has seen everything and is hard to fool. I showed her my handling on this and she had no idea how it worked. She said it was just so clean she couldn't figure it out. For those who don't think this will fool anyone, please don't buy it. The less people doing it the better it is for those of us that do.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (May 31, 2011 07:06PM)
All too funny how contrasting some of the feelings can be on this, or for that matter, [i][b]anything[/b][/i]!

However, I often find that usually, albeit not always, some of the [i]strongest[/i] criticisms come from people who do [i][b]not[/b][/i] have whatever effect is being discussed. ;)
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (May 31, 2011 07:07PM)
This is the state of magic these days. You show people several performances intended for magicians to advertise a product and ask them to figure it out? Sad. When I do magic for people I never do it over and over again, unless the trick is designed for that. Tool is not designed for that BTW.
James
ps
movemonkey aren't you a clever little monkey, good monkey,good monkey



[quote]
On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 31, 2011 11:32PM)
OK I guess I will not know until I try but I am still confused. Is this any different in how it is made in quality or deceptive nature. I posted about effects like this last year and there were several products mentioned none of which I see here. But they all were based on the box and all talked.
I still have to disagree that the box is ORGANIC. How so? When you have your hand why use the box?
I will say, while I do like visual changes this gimmick is probably best as seen in some of the videos posted where you use it more as a switching device and not as the cover for the change.

OK lets look at your vid. If you never turn over the box after the change what will they think? You know exactly what they are thinking. So it is already in their mind before you turn over the box. (even if they just polite and do not say anything.)

The the very moment I first say the first effect I instantly had the answer. Sure I am a magician but on should never underestimate the audience or how polite they are.

Like I said, this maybe be stronger when used without drawing focus to the box. I did hear the talking on many of the videos that did not have music and that is not organic or natural but one of the videos there was a softer landing. But to drop or tap the box it makes a noise that is NOT how it would sound.

And you really will not know if they suspect the box unless you asked them how do you think you did it. In the English speaking world it seems people are taught to not ruin your trick for the most part. But I have experienced other cultures who get more hands on with magic and what to touch everything or will grab for things they suspect.


[quote]
On 2011-05-28 04:10, Black wrote:
@Powermagic:
I first thought the same! But when I performed this live for a few people, I saw that they don't want to check out the box. In my opinion it's very organic to use the box. You show the box before, they remember how it looks - you show the box after and they can't see a difference, so the box is normal for them. If you take a look at my video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=relmfu )you will expect that is has to do something with the box, because I use the box for EVERY effect. If I perform other card tricks and then only one routine using TOOL, it's not that suspicious that the box has something to do with the effect.

I hope you understand how I mean it :)

PS: There is only a "click"-sound if you tap the box on the cards. But I prefer to rub, in my opinion it looks more magical and less obvious!
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Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 31, 2011 11:39PM)
And yet when I I saw Sanders Extreme Burn over and over I was in the dark. SO some hold up and show their value on video.

As to the person asking do you repeat magic over and over live? Sure you do. If you work eateries and are the house magician you get people who either see you perform before, see you perform at another table or bring people back and request effects they liked. I recall one place I worked the owner loved my basic pen through quarter. He and the piano player would stop, like in the old westerns and watch every time I did it. Made me nervous but they never caught it. Today more than ever one needs to select effect that can stand up to more than in the past. Far too many people are now trained to behave like they see audiences do on the street.
I wish I could say this one is good but I fail to see what is new about this in either quality or instruction and see the method has a telegraph that needs to be handled with thought.


[quote]
On 2011-05-31 20:07, Xiqual wrote:
This is the state of magic these days. You show people several performances intended for magicians to advertise a product and ask them to figure it out? Sad. When I do magic for people I never do it over and over again, unless the trick is designed for that. Tool is not designed for that BTW.
James
ps
movemonkey aren't you a clever little monkey, good monkey,good monkey



[quote]
On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
[/quote]
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jun 1, 2011 03:42AM)
I absolutely never repeat a trick unless it is in the structure. These days all the magic I do has several phases with the last phase always having some kicker.
James


[quote]
On 2011-06-01 00:39, Powermagic wrote:
And yet when I I saw Sanders Extreme Burn over and over I was in the dark. SO some hold up and show their value on video.

As to the person asking do you repeat magic over and over live? Sure you do.
[quote]
On 2011-05-31 20:07, Xiqual wrote:
This is the state of magic these days. You show people several performances intended for magicians to advertise a product and ask them to figure it out? Sad. When I do magic for people I never do it over and over again, unless the trick is designed for that. Tool is not designed for that BTW.
James
ps
movemonkey aren't you a clever little monkey, good monkey,good monkey



[quote]
On 2011-05-28 14:00, movemonkey wrote:
Come on guys, can someone explain me why so much buzz on this? Just showed the trailer to 6 different laymen friend and all 6 figured out the method...

the main reason is the action of using the box causing the magic effect makes it so obvious!!


Tool will fool no one, even a child can figure it out!
[/quote]
[/quote]
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jun 2, 2011 06:05PM)
Some tricks by there very inherent nature are not meant, and or designed to be performed over for the same person(s). However, that certainly doesn't make them bad. There are many great effects that can't be performed twice so it's simply a matter of orchestrating when, and when [i]not[/i] to use them. It sounds as though I'm defending this particular trick, which as I mentioned before, I haven't the [i]faintest[/i] interest in, but I'm simply trying to state a matter of common sense as to what you decide to perform, and or [i][b]where[/b][/i] you perform any given trick. ;)
Message: Posted by: madcats9 (Jun 3, 2011 02:20PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-03 14:43, Eric Ross wrote:
Hey guys!
Sorry, I didn't get to read all this..

I saw this demo, and was curious how this differs from my "Conspiracy"?

http://www.ellusionist.com/conspiracy-by-eric-ross.html

Not blaming anyone.. Not trying to start ANYTHING. Just curious.

E.
http://www.ericrossmagic.com
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I don't have it but as far as I know...well...there is no plastic... ;)

The gimmick from Solo, Conspiracy and Tool are basically the same, I thing. I recommend buying one product as this is a good gimmick.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jun 3, 2011 05:25PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-03 15:20, madcats9 wrote:

I don't have it but as far as I know...well...there is no plastic... ;)

The gimmick from Solo, Conspiracy and Tool are basically the same, I thing. I recommend buying one product as this is a good gimmick.
[/quote]

Please don’t take offense, but I think Eric is looking for an answer from someone who [i]owns[/i], and has hands on knowledge of [i]both[/i] effects, and not conjecture.

[quote]
On 2011-06-03 15:20, madcats9 wrote:
I recommend buying one product as this is a good gimmick.
[/quote]

You recommend buying [i]what[/i] product?
Message: Posted by: Stucky (Jun 5, 2011 08:32AM)
Regardless of what anyone thinks, this might be the best and easier signed card to box utility I have ever seen.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jun 7, 2011 09:21AM)
Two days ago I've seen a lecture of David Stone and more than 100 magicians were absolutely amazed. He performed about 5 or 6 routines using the gimmick (he wanted to demonstrate what's possible with it) and after he explained it everyone loved it. I think it's up to you - if you like it, perform it. If you don't like it - let it be. :)

Cheers guys!
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jun 7, 2011 12:11PM)
Hey again,
I just filmed another idea using TOOL by David Stone. I hope you like it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFheCQM86eo
Message: Posted by: brehaut (Jun 7, 2011 12:48PM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-31 20:06, gaffed wrote:
All too funny how contrasting some of the feelings can be on this, or for that matter, [i][b]anything[/b][/i]!

However, I often find that usually, albeit not always, some of the [i]strongest[/i] criticisms come from people who do [i][b]not[/b][/i] have whatever effect is being discussed. ;)
[/quote]

Could not agree more
Message: Posted by: Lundonia (Jun 7, 2011 02:43PM)
I have only been doing magic for a couple of months but it's so easy to use 'Tool' it's almost ridiculous. I don't know what other more experienced performers think would be better methods for the same effects but I'm loving it so far. :)
Message: Posted by: GeneTony (Jun 7, 2011 03:17PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-07 13:11, Black wrote:
Hey again,
I just filmed another idea using TOOL by David Stone. I hope you like it. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFheCQM86eo
[/quote]

Sheesh - already removed?
Message: Posted by: kjmking2002 (Jun 7, 2011 08:30PM)
I am not trying to criticize or anything....
but I just bought the Solo by Mark Mason and basically, with one of the gimmicks from Solo, you can perform all routines in Tool since it's a very basic gimmick.

Anyway, Solo comes with another gimmick that makes the card vanish.....and it's little bit cheaper than the Tool!!
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Jun 8, 2011 06:48AM)
You also only get one gimmick with solo. Tool comes with two so you can have one deck set up for one effect and another deck set up for a completely different effect.
Message: Posted by: Joemv (Jun 8, 2011 09:58AM)
Little bit confused......kjmking2002 says you receive 2 gimmicks with Solo and Paul Rathbun says you only get 1 gimmick with Solo and 2 with Tool ?

Thanks

Joe
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Jun 8, 2011 11:39AM)
Joe,

With Solo you get a gimmick like in Tool and another gimmick that makes a sandwiched card disappear. With Tool, you receive two identical gimmicks. With Solo, you receive two different types of gimmicks. Hope that helps.

-Paul
Message: Posted by: Lundonia (Jun 8, 2011 12:12PM)
Just for the record: I received one red and one blue gimmick with Tool (ordered from Penguin).
Message: Posted by: Joemv (Jun 8, 2011 02:34PM)
Paul,

Thank you for getting back to me, and it does help. Thanks again !

Joe
Message: Posted by: GuiMo (Jun 8, 2011 02:58PM)
I just received Tool last week and it appears to me that it is a very amazing trick.
I received the dvd plus 2 blue gimmicks.

I wanted to react with people saying that you can't examine the box afterwards. Well this could seem very weird to you but I did this trick in a close-up gig last week end, the trick where the chosen (and signed) card disappears from the top and comes in the box (this was my final effect after and AC routine). Then this guy on my right was so amazed, he took the box that was on the table and I didn't say anything and I looked relaxed and natural.

And the guy didn't even notice! He just put the box back on the table and kept asking "how did you do that?" afterwards. Maybe he lied but I don't think so because the gimmick, when you quickly look at it isn't obvious because it isn't natural for lay people to see such a thing, they don't even know what a gimmick could be!

I did this again for a friend who didn't take the box to look but I wanted to try if he could see it so I took the box back (with the gimmick on) and showed it to him quickly from side to side and he didn't notice... So I think that you don't need to worry about that kind of things, just know where the heckler is and make sure he won't take the box because a real heckler would see that!

Anyway, this "tool" is very nice and very well made! I recommend buying it and I recommend using it in your routines, create your own effects with it because there are so much possibilities with that beauty!

Cheers.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jun 8, 2011 03:44PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-07 16:17, GeneTony wrote:

Sheesh - already removed?
[/quote]
Yes, it had a mistake.. I will film it again soon.
Message: Posted by: whall212 (Jun 9, 2011 05:55AM)
Tool is amazing. Done correctly the box is not suspect. To laypeople, trick decks are known, but not trick boxes. I do prefer the effects where the box is clean at the end but I don't volunteer it for inspection and no one wants to see the cards or the box afterwards. I just leave everything on the table and take my time putting it away. The box looks clean and the cards they already held, shuffled, and looked at on their own. The DVD has excellent ideas on it. I love the 4 aces showing up after shufling the deck - very nice. Definately don't call attention to the box. I show it as a glimpse while taking it away rather than to prove to people it's not the box. Subtle but important difference.
Message: Posted by: TheGreatRaymondo (Jun 12, 2011 12:22PM)
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title

Good. Very good!
Message: Posted by: Magicmike221 (Jun 13, 2011 05:45AM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-09 14:48, Magicjg wrote:
Had the pleasure of hanging out with David the past 2 weeks. We worked on a few of my tool ideas. I have to say, this is amazing. Easily you can change your current routines using this device. Also soon they will be selling the tool gimmick with both a red and blue back. Check out a few ideas below.

http://youtu.be/5KBiJmY4yI0

http://youtu.be/BC_Mj0Awe9Y

http://youtu.be/31EG1mIop1g

Very Good Jason some great ideas there

http://youtu.be/hL7NQxannvQ
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jun 13, 2011 02:40PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-12 13:22, TheGreatRaymondo wrote:
[quote]
On 2011-04-22 09:52, Black wrote:
I made a little video so that you can image how many tricks you can do with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoy4VG8V3w&feature=channel_video_title

Good. Very good!
[/quote]

Thank you so much :)
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jun 14, 2011 03:55AM)
So it comes with two gimmicks in different colors or same color?

Do we get to choose the color combination?
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jun 14, 2011 04:40AM)
They come in same color and you can't choose the color. But maybe you can ask your dealer to send you the color you want.

Cheers
Message: Posted by: magiclee (Jun 14, 2011 07:59AM)
Mine came with 1 Blue and 1 Red.

magiclee
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jun 14, 2011 09:46AM)
So if we get one for each color, it will also come the corresponding boxes? No crafting needed from our end?
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jun 14, 2011 03:51PM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-14 08:59, magiclee wrote:
Mine came with 1 Blue and 1 Red.

magiclee
[/quote]

Interesting to hear that. A few weeks ago they just delivered two red boxes. And now it seems to be available in both colors.
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jun 15, 2011 04:52AM)
Perhaps we have to ask the dealer first? Coz most only mention about the two gimmicks not the colors, CMIIW.
Message: Posted by: TheGreatRaymondo (Jun 21, 2011 10:18AM)
I see Alakazm are now pushing this on a 'pre-order' basis.
Message: Posted by: Matthew U (Jun 23, 2011 04:40PM)
Tool comes with two gimmicks and these can be mixed or the same. There is no way to be certain which is in the box untill you open it. Hope this helps Matthew
Message: Posted by: trickychris (Jun 23, 2011 06:58PM)
I only got once gimmick with mine!
have I I've been done? The dvd wasn't sealed from the dealer...
Message: Posted by: Kurtis Chin (Jun 24, 2011 01:25AM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-23 19:58, trickychris wrote:
I only got once gimmick with mine!
have I I've been done? The dvd wasn't sealed from the dealer...
[/quote]

I received 2 gimmicks, one of each color.
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jun 24, 2011 03:32AM)
[quote]
On 2011-06-23 19:58, trickychris wrote:
I only got once gimmick with mine!
have I I've been done? The dvd wasn't sealed from the dealer...
[/quote]

Where did you buy it from?
Message: Posted by: magikman97 (Jun 24, 2011 08:47AM)
Where did you get it?
Message: Posted by: magikman97 (Jun 24, 2011 08:49AM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-13 16:34, Paul Rathbun wrote:
Looks good. I am finally getting this.
[/quote]

where did you get it?
Message: Posted by: magikman97 (Jun 25, 2011 06:51AM)
I got one at Nexus magic yesterday and they had plenty in stock!!
Message: Posted by: trickychris (Jun 25, 2011 08:40AM)
I got mine from a uk dealer. I'll look into it!
Message: Posted by: Shanlip (Jun 28, 2011 05:21AM)
I got 1 red gimmick and 1 blue gimmick from penguin pre-order
Message: Posted by: Khuluma (Jun 30, 2011 01:58PM)
The gimmick is great and will last a long time, but wonder how long the box will last?
My card cases get tatty really quickly. Can we order boxes or attempt to make our own!?
Message: Posted by: Wardy (Jul 2, 2011 07:20PM)
I thought I'd make this my first post as I love this product so much.I'll start by saying that I received both colours , and that does make it possible to use this gimmick a couple of times ,seperated by a couple of other tricks. The amount of Magic possible with this is endless.My favourite is making a torn and emptied sugar packet re-appear full and sealed. No-one suspects the gimmick unless you present it as part of the trick. And it's easy to ditch the gimmick in your pocket anyway, and then come out with your pack clean. I show the inside of the case as that's where most people think you've sleighted something to. But even if you show both sides fairly no-one will suspect it. The only negative thing I would say about the dvd is that it states on the back that one of the bonuses is to show how to remake another gimmick.I can't find this anywhere. Over all one of the most fun , limitless products I'll ever buy.
Message: Posted by: snowman (Jul 17, 2011 12:24AM)
Ummm, anybody out there? Khuluma had a good question....cardboxes don't last long so can we order more or make our own when the cardbox wears down? Also, like Wardy, on the back of my DVD case it said we would learn how to remake another gimmick but I can't find that info....any help would be appreciated..thanks all.
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jul 17, 2011 01:37AM)
I think the small part in the card box can be moved into a new box and only need a little or perhaps almost no crafting skill.

Thinking to combine this with Flightcase by Peter Eggink but then again, using the box twice will throw the heat on the box.
Message: Posted by: Khuluma (Jul 20, 2011 04:22AM)
It's gone eerily quiet on the this subject! Still, I am enjoying the gimmick and I think you are right about moving the part across to a new box, shouldn't be too much effort.
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jul 20, 2011 09:16AM)
Even there are at least two tricks that will allow you to do the routines in Tool, I still want to have this as we will be allowed to look inside David's minds about card magic. I'm more interested in the psychological approach on each routine, patter or presentation.

This is a worker! :D I'll see if I get mine pretty soon.
Message: Posted by: Deano88 (Jul 23, 2011 01:32PM)
Ok I like the idea of this I just wonder how it compares to Redemption by Chris Ballinger and Conspiracy by Eric Ross

Thanks

Dean
Message: Posted by: nornando (Jul 23, 2011 04:43PM)
You guys are great! after skimming through the comments, I just saved myself 35 plus postage by ignoring the hype on this latest and greatest
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jul 24, 2011 06:28AM)
At first I thought the idea was a bit lame.

But having seen it on the Wizard Product Review I'm interested.

Good work David Stone.
Message: Posted by: JD_UK (Jul 24, 2011 06:33AM)
In my opinion this isn't that good. I bought it out of curiosity and the production values of the DVD are poor and the gimmick is just the same as Solo by Mark Mason. Yes you get two gimmicks with Tool but I've just sat down and compared the two with Solo & Solo's gimmick is better quality. This is just my opinion. Also I know little about who first came up with this idea but I was surprised that Craig & David didn't mention crediting when reviewing it on their show. I know how stressed Craig gets about crediting too! ;)
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jul 24, 2011 06:38AM)
I mentioned the Solo thing earlier in the thread but I was shot down.
Message: Posted by: autfan (Jul 24, 2011 07:25AM)
As soon as I saw the demo, I thought of Solo. I guess it is ok to take someone's idea and take it in a different direction? People put variations of tricks out all the time. Anyway, if crediting wasn't given, it should have been.
Message: Posted by: Hugokhf (Jul 24, 2011 10:34AM)
95% of spectators won't know it is a gimmick box. They are not as familiar to thebox structure as magicians do.

and it took me like 2 minutes to figure out which is the gimmicked part of the box! I thought it was just badly cut! (maybe I was just stupid)
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jul 24, 2011 03:05PM)
I guess both are pretty much the same.

You can do Solo using Tool without the cards with holes. Then you can do Tool with Solo. Confused? :D

Anyway, the concept is the same only Solo has different ending and pulling out a card of the card box will be the closing. I haven't got both so can't really comment on the quality of the gimmick. However, if you think it's really unfair to have such poor quality gimmick, perhaps you should contact the dealer or David himself.

Btw, with the money routine in Tool, do we get the special card too? The card with a picture of folded bill? If not, does the DVD teach or even give sample of pictures that we can use?

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: theboywonder (Jul 24, 2011 08:59PM)
Both Solo and Tool are great, but the card boxes that come with Tool are IMPOSSIBLE to tell from a real card box! The one that came with Solo is a little thicker and heavier than usual (a spec would never know), but the Solo effect with the extra cards is awesome. Tool has 2 great gimmicked boxes, and a DVD full of awesome ideas. They are both great effects! I am curious about Redemption from the Geek, though . . .
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jul 28, 2011 08:23PM)
It's hard to find Red Solo. All comes in blue :(
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jul 30, 2011 03:03PM)
How to contribute new routine with Tool? Where should I submit the video to?

Would it be eligible if I use some other gaffed cards?
Message: Posted by: HusssKarson (Jul 30, 2011 03:30PM)
I found many cool uses already. It's a great sw****er.
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Jul 31, 2011 01:14AM)
That's true. I've been having fun and it gives me too much headache because so many possibilities to use this.

And the gimmick.... what can I say? It's undetectable. I almost had to pop my head into the box to check it thoroughly to be able to spot it.
Message: Posted by: Gaz Lawrence (Aug 1, 2011 07:58AM)
[quote]
On 2011-07-28 21:23, Failed Magician wrote:
It's hard to find Red Solo. All comes in blue :(
[/quote]I have Solo in Red Mark Mason sold both options.
Message: Posted by: Magicmike221 (Aug 1, 2011 10:22AM)
I should be recieving Tool in tomorrows post.
Message: Posted by: Magicmike221 (Aug 2, 2011 01:23PM)
Received today .....as Im a man of very few words on forums......Top notch!!
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Aug 3, 2011 02:49PM)
Yup, and I'm sure the more you spend time with it, the more new utilities you could do with Tool. New routine, new presentation will surely keep coming at you.

As I hit my second day with it, I've got two or three new routines. Two of them using some gaff but really cool.
Message: Posted by: Aus (Aug 4, 2011 05:01PM)
Firstly I wont to start off by saying I don’t have this effect and I just came across this thread on Tool just lurking around, but after reading some comments I felt compelled to say something.

When I read and watch peoples comments on products and there are negatives discussed I often wonder how much thought the person puts into solving the negative issues he/she points out. A great professional magician gave some great advice to me once that the difference between a professional and an amateur is that one try’s to overcome problems well the other concedes to them.

For instance much conjecture of this thread has been on the card box and whether it draws suspicion or not, and just by looking at the youtube videos and how the card box is utilised in the context of its uses I’ve already formulated some solutions. Of course this all depends on if suspicion falls on the box in the first place as you might be running well not being chased. The only way you’re going to find out if that’s the case is by performing the effect in its barest form and see where that focus of the spectators is naturally drawn to.

Anyway here are my suggestions and again I just won’t to point out that I don’t own Tool yet and I’m only surmising here but here are my ideas for rectifying the box concern (if it is one).

The first thing is have a contextual reason for why the case is in play, now this isn’t a big expose as that would only draw more suspicion to the card box which is the opposite of what we won’t but just a fleeting explanation during the routine would be suffice. For instance say you doing a card printing routine that uses a double blank card and you introduce the card box by saying that to print a card you need two things, the face of the card and the back of a card. To print the back of the card you show the back design that is usually printed on a Bicycle card box and say it’s your printing template then tap the box over the blank card magically printing the cards back then move on to another method for printing the face to continue the routine.

Another context could be using it at the conclusion of a piece by piece torn and restored card where after the card is completely restored you uses the card box as a steam iron to iron out the creases in the card to restore it to its former pristine condition.

The way I see it the card box ether way is a none issue that couldn’t easily be solved with good presentation and routining if the case required it.


Magically

Aus
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Aug 5, 2011 11:26AM)
A new demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-W32vWYGr8&feature=player_embedded
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Aug 6, 2011 03:22AM)
That is really nice, giving me ideas. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Jamie Ferguson (Aug 7, 2011 11:13AM)
I'm sure there's plenty of mileage in this prop. Although I'm convinced I've seen the idea before as part of another trick.
Message: Posted by: Chris Harrop (Aug 8, 2011 03:54AM)
I received Tool in the post yesterday and I only have one problem with it, I can not get a full deck inside the box is this normal?
Message: Posted by: Failed Magician (Aug 8, 2011 04:20AM)
Hi Chris,

Yup, that's normal. Due to the gimmick, you have to reduce the amount of the cards. Well, you can have one full complete deck but it will a bit tight to take them out.

I remove about four cards or more if I have some other gaff cards in there. And you have to make sure the gimmick will not lock itself so when you take the deck out, the gimmick stays inside :D

I have some new routines but it requires some other gaff cards.

Overall, I can't thank David Stone enough for bringing out this. I know the method is not new. Even I prefer to use Solo as it has better 'look' on the gimmick. But having boxes that are ready to use are just nice.

I usually have two boxes setup with the gimmick. Then I have a Poker deal routine set up as well. So as soon as I finish, I will draw their attention to the Poker routine, take the heat off the box.
Message: Posted by: Chris Harrop (Aug 8, 2011 05:18AM)
Thanks for the quick response failed magician, I thought as much. I have never used solo so I can not compare them but I think tool is very well made and if used in a casual way no heat should be on the box.
Message: Posted by: NexusMagicShop (Aug 9, 2011 12:03AM)
It's a fantastic effect. I liken this to the Tango T.U.C., but for cards. So many applications. . .
Message: Posted by: Supersmooth_ Magic (Sep 15, 2011 04:18AM)
I ordered this because it looked visual, slick and magical!!! I was told it was similar to Solo by JB magic
Message: Posted by: Supersmooth_ Magic (Sep 15, 2011 04:45AM)
Looks like use can use this with Omni deck as there is a nice big distraction!!
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Sep 15, 2011 06:44AM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-15 05:45, Supersmooth_ Magic wrote:
Looks like use can use this with Omni deck as there is a nice big distraction!!
[/quote]

Great idea!
Message: Posted by: Supersmooth_ Magic (Sep 15, 2011 01:24PM)
I still havent received the item yet look forward to. Can you fit a normal deck of cards in it and continue doing a card trick?
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Oct 7, 2011 11:30AM)
This is without a doubt one of the best utility items I've ever seen. The possibilites are endless and you cand end squeaky clean with just a little thought.
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Oct 10, 2011 11:02AM)
[quote]
On 2011-09-15 14:24, Supersmooth_ Magic wrote:
I still havent received the item yet look forward to. Can you fit a normal deck of cards in it and continue doing a card trick?
[/quote]

Yes, though it gets a little tight if you leave the jokers in.
Message: Posted by: FifthColumnist (Oct 13, 2011 02:50PM)
I dropped this into another thread but it seems more appropriate here. So my two penn'orth:

Tool, on the other hand has all the makings of a fabulous trick but has without doubt the single worst presentation I have ever seen.

The dvd case looks like it is a knock-off, this is only enhanced by the very dodgy production values. For some reason the first few performances are very accomplished, then for the reveals, his mate pulls out his 1st gen IPhone and films the rest using that. I've seen youtube uploads that are better than this!!

Then there is the trick itself. The principal is sound and some of the tricks are REALLY good! Sadly the execution is found wanting. By dint of the gimmick you can't play with a full deck. For some this is fine. For someone like me who opens with 'Sammy the Bellhop', it's a no go area. It also limits you to standard red or blue 808 bicycle decks. For some this isn't an issue. For me, presentation is a big thang. I use Propaganda by Theory 11 with a Ghost Deck silver card clip. No matter how much heat is on the deck or the case, the card clip always draws the attention, why? Because it's shiny and pretty! Plus, they then take great interest examining the cards themselves. But I digress. Tool is a good, if limited, opener. Begin with that, then pull out your usual deck and continue. If later on, you have time to reset, you can perform another trick with it.

Hopefully, there;ll be a Stone v.2 where all the proceeds from the current sales are used to get vaguely decent production values and a gimmick that will accommodate 52+ cards...
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Oct 24, 2011 06:34AM)
This is great!
I have been using this to perform a vanishing card box sequence taught to me by the great Etienne Pradier
the perfect opener!
there seems to be so many card box production / vanishing effects (single trick dvd /effects etc) out there
but this is by far the best, it leaves you clean and ready to go into which ever card routine you wish
all you need is Tool and a bit of imagination
if you catch Etienne's current lecture I'm sure he'll only be to pleased to share it with you too
BRILLIANT !!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Supersmooth_ Magic (Oct 24, 2011 06:53PM)
I like this - put the Omni deck in a blank deck with the tool gimmick card and take it out and use it!! - nice variation and illusion of a deck turning into a block of plastic acrylic. Actually I hope I am not giving this away too much. I will use the tool in a show reel some time.

For those who do not know it is similar to JB magic effect called "cell-out" - by Mark Mason.
Message: Posted by: totothemagician (Dec 14, 2011 11:06AM)
Just found this channel with many more ideas using tool:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheToolmagic
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Apr 14, 2012 07:47AM)
Hey guys,
here is another fun idea I had with Tool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCwKapP9Sss

Kevin
Message: Posted by: Romano911 (Apr 15, 2012 08:46PM)
Hi Kevin, fyi the link ^ does not appear to work for me.
Message: Posted by: bobflyer (Apr 15, 2012 10:21PM)
Me too....shows that "This video has been removed by the user". Any chance you can upload it again?
Message: Posted by: MuscleMagic (Apr 18, 2012 03:15PM)
This item is worth 10x the money, everything about it is quality, finally something that one can truly use all the time
Message: Posted by: Sander (May 3, 2012 05:19AM)
Lots of magic you can perform with this item,
here my link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-OQBVog5MU
Message: Posted by: Zombie Magic (May 3, 2012 06:33AM)
[quote]
On 2012-05-03 06:19, Sander wrote:
Lots of magic you can perform with this item,
here my link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-OQBVog5MU
[/quote]

NICE!
Message: Posted by: NFW (May 3, 2012 10:31AM)
Very nice video
Message: Posted by: MaxfieldsMagic (May 3, 2012 10:10PM)
Boy, this prop really works. The DVD is worth studying as an example of how many completely different effects you can squeeze from one basic idea. I especially like the ones that take all of the heat off of the dirty - Stone offers some nice ones. Tool is a great idea with an appropriate name, and it's well executed at a very reasonable price, particularly since you get two of the necessary.
Message: Posted by: motown (May 3, 2012 10:28PM)
After seeing David's lecture the other night, I was much more impressed with Tool then previously. And a very entertaining lecture to boot.
Message: Posted by: andygregs (Oct 22, 2019 01:06PM)
I have tool by david stone but I'm looking for a gaff card with a folded uk note printed on the back DS dose it with a 20 euro note if possible I'm after £5 £10 OR £20 but cant find anywhere thank you