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Topic: Favorite Tenor
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Aug 10, 2011 11:45AM)
Just thought I throw some opera into the current wave of favorite rock bits and pieces.

Everybody sings Nessun Dorma. But [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUbA5y1hnFg]Jussi Björling[/url] defines it.

John
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Aug 10, 2011 11:50AM)
Enrico Caruso or Placido Domingo.

Although, I have to admit I was really moved the first time I saw that Paul Potts guy sing.
Message: Posted by: motown (Aug 10, 2011 11:50AM)
Hamiton
Message: Posted by: landmark (Aug 10, 2011 12:12PM)
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Hamiton
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Beat me to it :)
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Aug 10, 2011 02:36PM)
My favorites are Richard Tucker and Mario Del Monaco for Nessun Dorma. Mario Lanza for versatility; he was able to sing popular songs without sounding like an opera singer trying to sing popular songs.
Message: Posted by: critter (Aug 10, 2011 02:54PM)
Bruce Dickinson
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Aug 10, 2011 03:14PM)
A little aside, Caruso could cradle a large egg in his mouth and close his lips over it without cracking the shell.
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Aug 10, 2011 04:05PM)
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On 2011-08-10 12:45, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Everybody sings Nessun Dorma. But [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUbA5y1hnFg]Jussi Björling[/url] defines it.

John
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I'm going to have to disagree with you, John. Though, according to some of the comments, Pavarotti was a fan, I prefer Pavarotti's rich, warm tone. Some have said things to the effect that Jussi hits the top notes with ease and sings effortlessly, without strain, but to me, his tone sounds strained in places. He has clarity in articulation, but I don't think his tone is nearly as pleasing as Pavarotti's. Maybe a sound quality issue, a mixing issue. I'd like to see a performance version. I think he may hit the top notes easier, but seems less comfortable on the bottom end. In terms of connection with the song, I think the clip of Pavarotti has Jussi beat, but, to be fair, that may be largely due to the fact that we can watch Luciano's eyes [i]as[/i] he sings. Watch them.

http://youtu.be/RdTBml4oOZ8

Laurie
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Aug 10, 2011 08:05PM)
Laurie, I agree with almost everything you say about Pavarotti. His tone is full and rich, and he has unbelievable mastery of dynamics. He's definitely my #2 choice. And as you note, Pavarotti is a GREAT showman. When I am on stage, I try to finish like Pavarotti :)

Björling brings a depth of character to the aria that I don't get from Pararotti. Björling's ff attack toward the end absolutely makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. He gives me an emotional response that extends through my whole body.

But I could never fault your taste for loving Pararotti.

John
Message: Posted by: Vincero (Aug 11, 2011 03:42AM)
Great thread. For me, Jussi Bjorling is the best. Especially for Nessun Dorma. His vocal type doesn't strictly suit the role Puccini intended for the male lead in Turandot, but Pavarotti wasn't suited to it either. If you want a tenor that sings Nessun Dorma the way Puccini would have wanted it, then check out Franco Corelli. Marvelous voice. Here's his Nessun Dorma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avjNx_J1iHo

Brilliant stuff, but my god, Bjorling's live version (with just a piano!!) take the biscuit??? The crowd go wild. Magnus, make sure you watch this if you haven't seen it already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdL483b4kao

Now, having glorified Bjorling and Corelli, I want to turn to Pavarotti. Everyone should watch this. His 1961 debut is INCREDIBLE. He sings "Che Gelida Manina" and hits that high C like no one had before. To think that he was Di Stefano's understudy that night. The audience erupts into applause during the high C. You can hear the excitement and it's magical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G890jG02RbI

Enjoy guys,

Zac
Message: Posted by: Vincero (Aug 11, 2011 03:50AM)
Oh yeah, and of course my username comes from the aria "Nessun Dorma" :P
Message: Posted by: Josh Chaikin (Aug 11, 2011 03:57AM)
I have to go with Anthony Warlow. The man can sing it all and brilliantly too.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Aug 11, 2011 09:11AM)
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On 2011-08-11 04:42, Vincero wrote:
Great thread. For me, Jussi Bjorling is the best. Especially for Nessun Dorma. His vocal type doesn't strictly suit the role Puccini intended for the male lead in Turandot, but Pavarotti wasn't suited to it either. If you want a tenor that sings Nessun Dorma the way Puccini would have wanted it, then check out Franco Corelli. Marvelous voice. Here's his Nessun Dorma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avjNx_J1iHo [/quote]

A very masculine performance. You can feel the stage drama.

[quote]Brilliant stuff, but my god, Bjorling's live version (with just a piano!!) take the biscuit??? The crowd go wild. Magnus, make sure you watch this if you haven't seen it already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdL483b4kao [/quote]

Now that was different. Björling treats the aria like a lied and it works brilliantly.

[quote]Now, having glorified Bjorling and Corelli, I want to turn to Pavarotti. Everyone should watch this. His 1961 debut is INCREDIBLE. He sings "Che Gelida Manina" and hits that high C like no one had before. To think that he was Di Stefano's understudy that night. The audience erupts into applause during the high C. You can hear the excitement and it's magical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G890jG02RbI

Enjoy guys,

Zac
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Thanks for the thoughts and the links. Three brilliant performances, indeed.

John
Message: Posted by: critter (Aug 11, 2011 09:12AM)
So it's just me for Bruce Dickinson?
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Aug 11, 2011 09:43AM)
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On 2011-08-11 10:12, critter wrote:
So it's just me for Bruce Dickinson?
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You'll be in a pretty small group, I'm thinkin'. Not that there's anything wrong with being in a minority...

John
Message: Posted by: LobowolfXXX (Aug 11, 2011 09:47AM)
I'll get in there with Critter...I loves me some Bruce.
Message: Posted by: critter (Aug 11, 2011 09:50AM)
Well if we're outnumbered then I guess we'd better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkPiQPLCYsw&feature=related
Message: Posted by: magicalaurie (Aug 13, 2011 12:47PM)
http://youtu.be/NUKgN-nC93c

Here's an even lovelier clip of the performance I posted earlier, smile, handshake, and audience address included.

Laurie
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Aug 13, 2011 04:28PM)
That last clip of Pavarotti is one of my favorites. He sure liked to show off by holding that last note.

It's a shame that we've lost Corelli, Del Monaco and Lanza. They surely would be concert tour superstars if they were in their primes today.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Aug 13, 2011 05:10PM)
Gotta say, I've never thought much of Lanza. His performances always strike me as hammy and sentimental.

John
Message: Posted by: Vincero (Aug 13, 2011 05:16PM)
Lanza had a lot of potential, some of his earlier recordings are very good. He did overplay some of them a tad though. Joseph Schmidt has a wonderful tenor voice. He's very underated in my opinion. His voice is exceptionally warm, and perfect for lied. There's a youtube video of him hitting a high C#, good stuff.

Zac
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Aug 13, 2011 11:39PM)
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On 2011-08-13 18:10, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Gotta say, I've never thought much of Lanza. His performances always strike me as hammy and sentimental.

John
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What I've always liked about both Mario Lanza and Mario Del Monaco is that didn't hold back, you got all they had. Watching them sing, you could tell that they loved it.

And, it's a shame that Joseph Schmidt didn't survive the war. He certainly proved that you don't have to be a big man to have a big voice.
Message: Posted by: Vincero (Aug 14, 2011 01:39AM)
Indeed. Very tragic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD-yzw7ExY4
Message: Posted by: michaelmystic2003 (Aug 14, 2011 09:08PM)
I'm my favourite tenor.
Message: Posted by: Vincero (Aug 15, 2011 03:13AM)
Videos?